View Full Version : Wow, I didn't realize that some people just can't trick...
Maxwilso
Jun-04-06, 04:02 PM
...I was outside the other day trying to teach my cousin to trick. I showed him the most basics things there were. I showed him how to cartwheel, handstand, b-Kick, Tornado kick, 180/360 cresents, and the au batido.
He couldn't land any of em', I can't trying to explain to him how to do it and what he was doing wrong.
I guess some people got it and some people don't :dead:
arubato
Jun-04-06, 04:27 PM
everybody can trick if they really tried and worked hard. It just some people learn faster than others because they are in better shape, better coordinated, or better with coping fear.
ANYBODY can trick if they really wanted to.
NinjaHydra
Jun-04-06, 04:38 PM
...I was outside the other day trying to teach my cousin to trick. I showed him the most basics things there were. I showed him how to cartwheel, handstand, b-Kick, Tornado kick, 180/360 cresents, and the au batido.
He couldn't land any of em', I can't trying to explain to him how to do it and what he was doing wrong.
I guess some people got it and some people don't
Nah, some people just take a little (or a lot) longer to get it than others.
Until about two months ago, I haven't done a correct cartwheel in my life, and I just recently got the one-handed cartwheel down (next up: aerial (hopefully... *cough*)).
Some people are able to pick this stuff up quicker than others. It seems to me, though, that really anyone can learn how to trick; it just takes the right kind of attitude to eventually get it down.
(EDIT: Damn, I gotta learn to type faster.... :P)
ZoMbiE
Jun-04-06, 04:44 PM
slightly unrelated but i saw a video of a seventy-something year old woman using a quan-dao(spelling?) doing some kind of form, it was badass. if senior citizens can huck around giant staff/sword/spears, then tricking is just around the corner.
Maxwilso
Jun-04-06, 04:50 PM
Yeah, tricking does take time... I guess what I meant was some people are faster learners then others.
WildArm
Jun-04-06, 05:37 PM
example.... juji-taegashi
Yeah, tricking has an insane learning curve, but the beauty is, once you have the basics the rest isn't half as hard.
And I don't think Juji was a fast learner, he said it took him 5 months to land a 540 and years to get the backflip.
Ugh when I first started I couldn't do anything. I was so out of shape every time I *attempted* a tornado my legs hurt. I guess stretching for hours a day for weeks straight and studying the tricks helped alot.
Towlie2110
Jun-04-06, 09:09 PM
I think he meant, Taegeshi was a fast learner compared to juji.
pooyen
Jun-04-06, 10:30 PM
learning a trick and performing it well are two completely different things. many ppl here exemplify that fact.
lyre_f
Jun-04-06, 10:33 PM
some people take longer to learn...that's all
I remember when I was 10 year old I wanted to do a carwheel so badly...I keep on drilling it and drilling it and couldnt do :tongue:
seaker
Jun-04-06, 11:42 PM
for a first timer whos watched alot of back flip videos do you think i can pull of one without breaking my neck? will they be a big chance? is there a way to learn a back flip without it being done instantly in one go (one flip thats very quick (even slowed down is hard to read :{ ) does any one know a simple way ?
Maxwilso
Jun-04-06, 11:46 PM
for a first timer whos watched alot of back flip videos do you think i can pull of one without breaking my neck? will they be a big chance? is there a way to learn a back flip without it being done instantly in one go (one flip thats very quick (even slowed down is hard to read :{ ) does any one know a simple way ?
A spotter, Tada.
norik0
Jun-05-06, 12:01 AM
i might start training my little cousing (like 9).. i cant do btwists but i showed him the steps for it and the setup and he tried over and over and over.. landed on his spine like 100 times and just kept trying... but on the other hand i might not b able to because as soon as he got home he said "mum josh made me do flips and i hurt myself"
NoSpineMan
Jun-05-06, 12:35 AM
yea, little kids are totally self-destructive, they'll try any kind of shit,
on a sidenote, I couldnt really do a proper tornado kick in the first summer of tricking either, haha
some people learn really fast, some slower, depends on what they've been doing before(MA, basketball w/e) and the training conditions(decent gymnastics gym, giant fields of grass) and then talent plays a role too, some people are predisposed to flipping around and twisting like a badass mofo.
Tatsumaru
Jun-05-06, 12:46 AM
I've practised some martial art for a year and took a couple of gymnastics lessons when I was small - so I have some sort of experience and I know certain simple techniques like cartwheel and tornado kick. Some people just don't have any of that experience (never properly done a cartwheel), but still wish to trick because it looks awesome. They'll have a hard time getting the basics right, but they can still do it if they really want to.
carney
Jun-05-06, 01:33 AM
You cant walk around on your feet all your life then just wake up and walk down the road on your hands!
seekah
Jun-05-06, 07:10 AM
I think one aspect that hurts performance in tricking is bodybuilding (this may only be my case,) people can correct me if im wrong, because I know there are alot of body builders on this site.
However I found that by constantly isolating my muscles to lift weights, that muscle activity actually affected how I tried to jump etc, this making things choppy, because i wasnt used to using momentum, and using the whole body to make things move.
Once I started ply it got better, and now is top notch.
flamingpope
Jun-05-06, 07:40 AM
did he care? many people just dont care enough to be able to do it
Towlie2110
Jun-05-06, 09:45 AM
If you body build, you want to counter it withphysical activity and stretching. Well, that's what my gym teacher told me and he's quite the badass mofo.
snugglefunked
Jun-05-06, 01:28 PM
...I was outside the other day trying to teach my cousin to trick. I showed him the most basics things there were. I showed him how to cartwheel, handstand, b-Kick, Tornado kick, 180/360 cresents, and the au batido.
He couldn't land any of em', I can't trying to explain to him how to do it and what he was doing wrong.
I guess some people got it and some people don't :dead:
when i began tricking, i could only cartwheel... i couldn't even roundoff!... i could tido and kipup tho, just because kipups were fun when i was a kid, and they did them on ninja turtles, and i did tidos for breakdancing... but i kept learning and kept learning, and now i can't even remember what it was like not being able to trick...
snugglefunked
Jun-05-06, 01:33 PM
for a first timer whos watched alot of back flip videos do you think i can pull of one without breaking my neck? will they be a big chance? is there a way to learn a back flip without it being done instantly in one go (one flip thats very quick (even slowed down is hard to read :{ ) does any one know a simple way ?
you COULD get a spotter, but most of the good tricksters on this site learned everything they know without a spotter or a tutorial... many of us have us have landed on our heads and necks MANY MANY TIMES!!! and the fact that none of us have died or broken our necks, even in failed gainer and roundoff flip attempts, let alone regular backflips, should show you something... you're not going to break your neck trying a backflip in grass or on padding... bottom line... you just need to convince yourself that fear is a pussy whos ass you're gonna beat into the ground, and you need to trust your reflexes to catch you if you fall...
Towlie2110
Jun-05-06, 02:39 PM
I agree with above ^^^ I myself tried the backflip first by myself to get rid of a chunk of fear. But then to actually get form and stuff down, I went to a spotter and mats where i was unaffraid to try "new stuff" but once I found out that it actually works, you will stop being affraid. Don't worry if you don't get it right away. It took me 4 months, and Juji somthing more. But the more you work at it, the more accomplishment you feel after doing it.
neways, I sorta remember always being able to front handspring lol. But they were sorta sloppy. When i was a kid I took a small gymnastics class where i learned what a round off was. So I guess that just helped me never be afraid to be on my hands.
I'm shocked and amazed at people who can't do foward somersaults on the ground. And even more at strong kids who when they try a front handsrping, their arms give out.
I have a friend who I'm trying to bring into tricking, but he just can't seem to get the fhs down. He's much stronger than me, but every time he tries one arm gives and he barely gets to his butt.
Ryu Sujin
Jun-05-06, 06:56 PM
Oh god...if any trickster walked up to my former self (before tricks) and tried to teach stuff...I would have died ahaha. Learning that stuff on the first try...like just BAMFING it into your life one day, and you will not learn ahaha.
You have no realization of what your body is doing until you start really visualizing and practicing the tricks even a few days...which a person just being bamfed into it couldn't.
The DA's List
Jun-05-06, 07:16 PM
none of my friends can trick. one of them has sorta been with me since before i could backflip, he's been trying to aubatido since like the fall. i've tried to teach him but he doesn't really listen to what I say: "oh i've got the form down" he always says... he doesn't.
maybe I'm just a bad teacher.
learning a trick and performing it well are two completely different things. many ppl here exemplify that fact.
quoted for uber-truth.
Towlie2110
Jun-06-06, 09:13 AM
Either im a bad teacher or this kid is just not cordinated.
Whenever some kids are playing bball and I join in just for the heck of it
they tell me im uncordinated because im bad,
then I backflip. Whose Uncordinated now
anerky
Jun-07-06, 01:19 PM
they tell me im uncordinated because im bad,
then I backflip. Whose Uncordinated now
backflip really doesn't take much coordination at all...not in the same way that basket ball does
If everyone could trick, no one would.
Towlie2110
Jun-07-06, 09:22 PM
backflip really doesn't take much coordination at all...not in the same way that basket ball does
True on some points. But a round off backhandspring backtuck takes alot of cordination as well.
kamikaze!
Jun-09-06, 01:28 AM
I think there are people who CANT trick.
I showed my friend a few really REALLY easy tricks (kip up, cartwheel, FHS) and he couldnt do any of them, but he tred to do them really hard.
Im not a good trickster but Id say some people just dont have the feeling for tricking.
It took me alot of time to get FHS and tornado kicks, and I've only really got 360 crescents recently. Kip-ups took alot of work. The only thing that really came anywhere near naturally to me was cartwheels and such, since I was able to to continuous running cartwheels as a child : ) I hung out with girls.
Towlie2110
Jun-09-06, 07:57 AM
Yeah my babysitter showed me the cartwheel
Mickey
Jun-09-06, 08:59 AM
I know wot you mean tho. I tried to teach my girlfriend to trick, bad idea. She just giggled alot and sat down whenever i showed her sumthing, then, whenever she went to jump for a kick she wud do a little jazzhandedness and go "weeeeeeee". It was almost as if she was mocking me. I cudnt tell coz i dont fully understand women.
Towlie2110
Jun-09-06, 09:02 AM
I tried to show my brothers gf how to backflip.
She was on a Pole vault mat.**
Even with two spots she refused to jump up and let us flip her.
Mickey
Jun-09-06, 09:06 AM
I tried to show my brothers gf how to backflip.
She was on a Pole vault mat.**
Even with two spots she refused to jump up and let us flip her.
Yeh i hate when girls do that. Even tho i had a condom on she still wudnt let me rape her. I dont get it. :ogre:
Towlie2110
Jun-09-06, 09:31 AM
if she let u it wouldnt be rape. and half assfun
lyre_f
Jun-09-06, 10:18 AM
i personally think anyone can trick aslong as they are dedicated enough to train to get the tricks down.....ya many people have a hard time learning things you find to be simple like a cartwheel...but everytime i get a new student one of the first things i teach them is a cartwheel and about 90% of them take a few months to do them properly...some have been training for years and still cant do them in a straight line....mainly because they find it easier to do it wrong and dont wanna bother fixing it...cuz they are stubborn little shits
mr_gonaka
Jun-09-06, 10:28 AM
all my friends cant trick, and while theres little i can do atm (fhs, kipup, cartwheel, one handed cartwheel each hand, axe2one handed cartwheel?, tornado, 360 crescent) i really wanna get into the bigger, better stuff. but i dont really wanna practice on my own cuz its not as fun, but i know noone who can do such a thing! any tricksters in belfast? =)
chobos bak?
Dec-11-06, 02:39 AM
i donno today i started randomly pulling backflips and frontucks in my pe class and every one was lick "omfg since when were u so good" and then i tried a walflip (ive never done one) and missed the mat i was gonna land on.... i cant walk....
Peleke
Dec-11-06, 05:50 PM
...I was outside the other day trying to teach my cousin to trick. I showed him the most basics things there were. I showed him how to cartwheel, handstand, b-Kick, Tornado kick, 180/360 cresents, and the au batido.
He couldn't land any of em', I can't trying to explain to him how to do it and what he was doing wrong.
I guess some people got it and some people don't :dead:
It took me more than a month to learn all of those. Maybe he will get it. Maybe he'll get to the point where he'll make you look like shit. Maybe.
I still can't handstand properly. Au Batido is confusing as hell at first, although it only took me a week or so. Cartwheel was a bitch to me, and the B-Kick still is. Even my 360 crescent is going downhill. I'm improving, so it doesn't bother me, but still, people learn at different rates. Just give him time man.
ThatOtherGuy
Dec-11-06, 06:02 PM
You really need to have body awareness first to get this stuff. Has he taken a martial art? Gymnastics? Dance? Cheerleading? Any sort of physical activity that really teaches you how to pilot your body? If not, its bound to take him longer than a day to learn the basics.
Also, you have to want it. The desire to land the moves is what motivates you to do the homework necessary to learn them.
DarkXacreD
Dec-11-06, 06:38 PM
slightly unrelated but i saw a video of a seventy-something year old woman using a quan-dao(spelling?) doing some kind of form,
If that's who I think it is, the guan dao probably weighed about 3 ounces.
I was in Tae Kwon Do when I was like 8. Having a little bit of backround experience is good. I just learned the 540 kick last month and it still needs work. It all mental though. The only reason I learned the B-twist in 10 min that night was because the video camera was going to run out of batteries, and I really wanted to get it down for the sampler.
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