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i was wondering if it was possible to do a double wall flip, like run up the wall and then do two flips before hitting the ground. Can it be done?
I don't see why not... some people have pretty high multi-step wallflips...
...but as far as I know, it hasn't been done. I think keiran may have attempted one...
...but it would take a lot of balls :tongue:
Towlie2110
Jun-14-06, 11:05 AM
You should be able to get the nessecary torque to do it, using the added swing of the leg Plus height. brings up the question of whther a double gainer is possible.
Xenocide
Jun-14-06, 11:23 AM
Go try one and tell us how it goes
Towlie2110
Jun-14-06, 11:35 AM
I think if somone did it next to a foam pit, they could see sorta.
kamikaze!
Jun-14-06, 11:35 AM
i dont think its possible, because wall would not give you enought of rotation (onestep) and multi step would give you even less rotation.
BBoySafety
Jun-14-06, 12:17 PM
if someone could do it, it would be kjer
he has sick wallflips
Towlie2110
Jun-14-06, 12:59 PM
Yes but, if you look at a good wallflip, they swing their legs like none other, surely that would give them more rotation.
norik0
Jun-14-06, 02:18 PM
heeeey.. i made a thread on this not to long ago.
Kieran did one onto his chest apparently.
TKD_Andy
Jun-14-06, 03:16 PM
i know someone who could do it pretty easily, his three step wallflips are insanely high.
he's been planning on doing it for a while, but hasnt tried it yet due to not having a crashmat etc.
shengoikee
Jun-14-06, 03:17 PM
kieran has tried it haha
Xenocide
Jun-14-06, 03:49 PM
i know someone who could do it pretty easily, his three step wallflips are insanely high.
he's been planning on doing it for a while, but hasnt tried it yet due to not having a crashmat etc.
Take your camera with you and bet him 5... of your currency, then show us the skillsness that ensues... or follows. w/e
it seems that it is possible, but you couldn't do it off a one step wall flip, it would have to be a multiple step, am i correct?
Why not? Standing double backs are just possible, so why not a one-step double wallflip?
carney
Jun-14-06, 08:36 PM
Saying its not possible is totally not right of course its possible! Just is anyone willing to put there head on the line! with enough tuck and if you can run up the wall futher or have some kind of aid mayb what the walls made out of etc you could do it! To some its impossibe for there body to do but some others like i think its Chase and his bro one of them takes quite a few steps up a wall and makes made height if he tucked easy double!
So it depends on alot of things but so far i havent seen it done but you will see it done eventually!
Towlie2110
Jun-14-06, 08:42 PM
A one step wallflip is generally higher than a standing back, and If standing backs are possible...
suicideducky
Jun-14-06, 11:01 PM
never say its impossible.
there is nothing impossible about it, under the right conditions, with enough speed and torque, there is no reason why it wouldnt be possible.
i think it would probably have ta be a two step wall flip with a descent sized run up, enough tuck, and youd have to throw ur leg back hard.
DarkXacreD
Jun-14-06, 11:44 PM
Doesn't a double wallflip mean a wallflip where you overrotate, kick the wall and do another wallflip (which would probably be impossible unless you can make yourself fall towards the wall somehow)?
What you guys are talking about sounds more like a wall double backflip
carney
Jun-14-06, 11:47 PM
yes in logic prehaps but we all know what he means!
norik0
Jun-14-06, 11:56 PM
i reckon i could do one off my 1 step wall flip.. after i do the flip im still in the air for ages... its just a matter of not caring if u break ur neck that stops u from doing it
i've heard about someone landing on their knees trying it, but of course they didn't have a camera to film it ...
carney
Jun-15-06, 03:05 AM
i've heard about someone landing on their knees trying it, but of course they didn't have a camera to film it ...
Yeah seriously if they were to try a Wallflip Double Back im sure you would have someone filming even if it was about to be one of the brutalest crashes you still want that stuff on camera! Tho alot of my best work has been done not infront of a cam nor infront of people! Some occurs in my bedroom lol
Ancient Kurisu
Dec-11-06, 07:57 PM
If Dave C still exists on the forums. Tell him to go do it. I'm sure hell atempt it.
Dark Twista
Dec-12-06, 07:24 AM
Wow, talk about indepth about this move. I want hear somemore possiblilities on how this is and isnt possible
it's possible...
[/indepth talk]
brandon904
Dec-12-06, 12:09 PM
this would be such a hard trick!!!! nothing is impossible, of course. it would take many steps up the wall, because once you leave the wall you have no chance to set, you are traveling straight down. I can't wait to see someone do this.
Dave C
Dec-12-06, 12:17 PM
It's more than possible. It's probably easier than a roundoff doubleback. Reasoning?
From a three step setup you can get 6-8 feet of ready-to-use height with virtually no effort. In a properly executed wallflip, you should be kicking down at the wall, forcing yourself higher in the final flip. Lots of people think they're supposed to kick out. That, my friend, is a bad idea.
Lets assume the setup goes well and you gain an extra 2 feet or so from your final kick. That gives you an automatic 10 feet of space to work with from the ground, so just incorporate typical double-back technique. A hard pull with the knees flips you twice and, if you're lucky, you even have time to spot your landing
Beyond this it's a wellknown fact that a wallflip is only 3/4th of a full flip, thus a wall-doubleback would technically be a wall 1 3/4 back
But I ain't fucking tryin that shit. I can't doubleback. I'll ask Steve though...
P.S. Hi Rudy. See you at the gym on wedensday
What is it touching the wall, doing a flip and toucing the wall again and doing a final flip?
What is it touching the wall, doing a flip and toucing the wall again and doing a final flip?
The Bubba Flip
brandon904
Dec-12-06, 03:22 PM
the math sounds good and all but when you kick off from a wall you have NO SET. you go directly towards the ground.
you have no chance to peak and tuck because you've already reached it by the time you kick off. Arrrgh this idea boggles my brain
i can see it done with a cheese mat up against a wall.
but not so much without it
brandon904
Dec-12-06, 04:50 PM
that counts! video gogogogo
Dave C
Dec-12-06, 04:58 PM
the math sounds good and all but when you kick off from a wall you have NO SET. you go directly towards the ground.
you have no chance to peak and tuck because you've already reached it by the time you kick off. Arrrgh this idea boggles my brain
maybe YOU don't!
TKD_Andy
Dec-12-06, 05:06 PM
lmao! haha
Jonny from oxtricks wants to land this move... his excuse is "he never gets around to doing it"
Adam from oxtricks does wallflip flashes, from standing, starting with one foot on the wall. With about 30 stiches, a few pins, wires and screws in one of his legs, its pretty fucking crazy.
TartanPajamas
Dec-12-06, 05:08 PM
I kick myself upward when I do wall flips, not towards the ground. I believe Dave C does the same.
brandon904
Dec-12-06, 05:55 PM
maybe YOU don't!
UGGGGGH. it's hard for me to theorize about something I probably won't ever do, lol.
It just seems like you'd have at least a lot LESS of a set coming off a wall as opposed to off the ground. I've seen double backs off the ground up close many times and they go vertical for so long before even tucking at all.
fusion
Dec-13-06, 06:05 AM
it dosnt matter, ur still 10 or so feet in the air, as said if u push up of the wall with your last step it could increase the height by like 2 feet and thats the peaking/delaying bit which u would see in round off double backs, rather than back of the wall which wouldnt be as higher and make it harder to tuck.
"they go vertical for so long before even tucking at all."
ur running UP a wall, u would go vertical for so long as well with and extra push UP of the wall on the last step
anyone seen someone who can do those two footed wallflips ?? they're nuts, i also saw a vid of a dude recently who did a wallflip by running up to the wall and planting his hands on the wall and using them to push off, so his legs weren't used at all, it was actually nuts.
remthetreme
Dec-13-06, 08:26 AM
One of my friend already try to do a double back from a 3 step wall flip, but it was not good try, he just let itself fall down on his back after the first flip. Like DaveC said, you must gain some air at your last step cuz you wont have time to double flip.
Angel Castellano
Dec-13-06, 10:24 AM
one time a saw a brazilian guy in a beach when i was training. And he did a "wall"doublebackflip... i say "wall" because it was in a little bar, 1.5 meters of height. He ran to towards the bar, put his foot on the bar, did the gainer and doublebackflip in the beach :smile: it was awesome! :shocked:
(sorry for my english >_<!!!)
Does that guy have any vids?
carney
Dec-13-06, 10:56 AM
i think hes been smokin just A liiittttle bit tooo much Crack
Salmon
Dec-13-06, 11:43 AM
Hay guys, what's going on? :cool:
carney
Dec-13-06, 12:25 PM
SALMON MY FAVORITE MAN!
Trixter
Dec-13-06, 03:06 PM
A guy where I work claim one fuck at his college can do a double wall flip. I'll try collecting footage off him. I,ll get you guys back with this.
Flowers
Dec-13-06, 03:48 PM
IMO it would be difficult, because on a wallflip your unable to start flipping until at your apex. Where'as in a double tuck, you start flipping as your still going up.
toccovender
Dec-13-06, 06:49 PM
why is everyone better at tricking than me :(
brandon904
Dec-13-06, 08:04 PM
why is everyone better at tricking than me :(
WORK HARDER
Dragonic MiKe
Dec-15-06, 11:16 AM
IMO it would be difficult, because on a wallflip your unable to start flipping until at your apex. Where'as in a double tuck, you start flipping as your still going up.
Wrong! :wink:
Flowers
Dec-15-06, 12:18 PM
Wrong! :wink:
Correction, on most wallflips....
Dragonic MiKe
Dec-15-06, 12:52 PM
Correction, on most wallflips....
I meant your comment about a regular double back. You don't flip on the way up.
Flowers
Dec-15-06, 08:27 PM
I meant your comment about a regular double back. You don't flip on the way up.
I guess in some perfect world you wouldn't. But find me a video of a double back that isn't flipping on the way up. I've tried them, and It would be insane to wait till the peak.
Yeah on a singular backflip you ideally want to start tucking at the peak, but this is precious air time in a double or triple.
thereid
Dec-15-06, 09:26 PM
I meant your comment about a regular double back. You don't flip on the way up.yes you do http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXOuSTYIZW8 , look he does'nt even reach his peak height till he's completely done with the first flip.
chobos bak?
Dec-16-06, 03:36 AM
ur not ment to flip on ur way up idealy but it would be hard not to....and that at is only one crazy china guy who eats rice
Flowers
Dec-16-06, 05:44 AM
ur not ment to flip on ur way up idealy but it would be hard not to....and that at is only one crazy china guy who eats rice
It's like with any full past a single, You have no time to wait till the very peak and then twist. You have to twist right off the ground. Yeah you need a good set, but a good stall isn't nessecary
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