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Jul-27-06, 05:57 PM
After a month mostly off from training and quality nutrition, im now back (for 3days, then a week off, then back again long-term). I can drink milk again, finally!

My weight hasnt changed for years and I think I will have another go at gaining some muscle. My problem isnt gaining weight, but avoiding the rapid and unacceptable fat gain that occurs every time I try. I mostly train for strength, with long rest periods and lowish reps. Although I still suspect that I gain ability in lifts much more quickly by doing higher reps. Perhaps basically the amount of muscle I currently have is sufficiently low to make further neurally-facilitated strength gains very difficult. I would hope that maybe gaining 10lbs or something would see my strength really shoot up.

I dont have questions really, Im just desperate to start training so im writing this as a substitute for the actual lifting (its 1.41 am). Tomorrow I will train handstand pushups (I can only do low reps anyway) and then afterwards do a shitload of high-rep shoulder presses, low weight.
I may do some kind of leg shit the next day (cheat-pistols), then pullups on the 3rd day. While im away ill just do some random shit, then when im back ill get back to *deadlifting*.

When I get to gaining weight I will try to be brave and have more than one high-carb day in a row. Also I will probably go low-fat for a while. I dont think its a "healthy" way to live - but if it lets me make some fairly lean gains then that in itself is a health benefit imo. Ill be using very high training volumes probably, because I like that. Like maybe 10x10 for each exercise. Basically just compound exercises like overhead pressing, pullups, rows if I can. Also I want to be a faggot and "work on" my forearms since they look shit. Who knows, I might even do my first curl in 18 months.

I should stop being a faggot towards training for "bodybuilding"-type goals. Looking good is probably very fun. Maybe I never really gained muscle easily in the past because I didnt consistently do high-volume density/high-volume training for enough of my body.

we will see what happens anyway

sorry if you read that and realised it is just me talking to myself

Steve
Jul-27-06, 07:00 PM
Gaining muscle isn't very hard at all. Eat infinite food and do infinite volume.

Crazy Max
Jul-27-06, 07:33 PM
Check out this link (http://www.ironaddicts.com/timed%20carb.html?t=1761). That should be of interest to you.

I used to wonder a lot about reps ranges, but now I'm pretty sure that they're not too important in the long run when it comes to muscle growth, as long as they are done within reason. How many skinny guys have you seen lift 300/400/500? It doesn't really happen.

Steve
Jul-27-06, 07:46 PM
Rep ranges below like 5-6 though don't offer much size increase. Just do whatever gives you the most volume.

compleks
Jul-27-06, 08:30 PM
You just need to balance the volume and intensity. 3-5 reps could be more than enough for muscle growth if you are compensating with extra sets.

Steve
Jul-27-06, 08:40 PM
That would take way too long haha

Gazapo
Jul-27-06, 08:47 PM
That would take way too long haha

yup. i always train 8-10 reps.

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Jul-28-06, 04:23 AM
Thanks for the replies. What ive found to be key is volume density - not just total volume. Although its a popular myth to bust, going for a pump seems to be a reasonable indicator to me of hitting the right kind of volume density.

re: the timed carb eating - thats similar to how I ate before. Today I will eat low-carb again until my workout then go crazy on the carbs.

Steve - infinite volume/infinite food is basically valid. In the not-too-distant past I was very afraid of much volume, I thought I couldnt handle it without overtraining. As it turned out, I was just a faggot and now I do 30x the weekly deadlift volume I used to.

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Jul-29-06, 04:10 AM
so last night I did:

Pullups
5 x 0
5 x +5
5 x +7
5,4.5 x +9 PR
8,7,6,7 x 0

HSPU
3+2
5-ves

DBMP
8 x 18, 15.5, 14
10 x 14
9 x 11.5

side raises
11,11,12 x 4

DBMP
15,8,10,8,8,8 x 11.5 - total 100 reps DBMP

CGBP
5 x 40
12,9 x 30
12,12 x 24

CURLSOMG
12,8 x 20

also 3 sets of about 10 evil wheel shit and 5,7 x 0 pullups afterwards.

haha so I did curls for the first time in.. 1.5-2 years? they were actually really fun to do, they feel cool. I have to be careful of the CGBP (close grip bench pressing) since my shoulders are already fucked forward. I havent trained bench for about 1.5 years, and don't intend to start.

Last night I had loads of leg cramps. Thismorning, a bit stiff and sore but nothing like I was perhaps hoping for. I just dont get sore any more, no matter what I do :/. Interestingly when I went skiing about 7 months ago, I didnt get DOMS at all either. In previous years after the first day my legs are in ridiculous pain that persists all week. I wonder why my resistance to DOMS is so high now?

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Jul-29-06, 10:42 AM
Actually, I feel like shit today. IVe just been sleeping and havent eaten anything for about 7.5 hours. No appetite, loads of mucus in my throat. Related to such a gay workout perhaps? Ill go and eat some beans and prawns now, although for once in my life I really dont feel like eating.