Weighted pull-ups vs. lat pull down machine?

[Xen]

Which one is better for gaining size and strength?

[compleks]

Pullups/Chinups.

[Steve]

If you load it the same pull ups are better.

[Starter Kit]

Would the benefits be the same if you kept your forearms pretty much perpendicular to the ground while doing a pull down?

[Steve]

Nooooope

[old_maverick]

Generally, anything that makes you use more muscles is going to be better overall for you. The pullup/chinup invloves all the muscles of a pulldown, plus you have to keep your body stable while performing the exercise.

[mr popular]

hey i invented this new pullup bar in my garage you guys!

i mean i'm sure somebody has thought of it before but i've never seen it anywheres...

anyway i had an 80lb kicking bag hanging from a hook on the cieling but i had to take it down. so later i took a lat pulldown bar (connected a cable via hook in the middle) and attached the too. so now its a lat pulldown bar hanging from a chain in the middle!

they are much harder to do because they are unstable, but they're lots of fun and the pump is more intense because i guess it takes more effort to stabilize

anyway i can knock out about 15 with good form on that bad boy. just thought i would let you guys in on this concept

-Brian

[Lobo]

I think the Crossfit fags or something similar do that.

[Liquid]

rope pulldowns would be better

[Lobo]

No..

[kazama]

talking about pull ups...
check out here my sampler: http://www.trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13908
I do a pull up variation at the beginning.
leave comments thanks

[verymetaldan]

I think the Crossfit fags or something similar do that.

Indeed. They endorse hanging your chin up bar from a chain, cos if you try and jerk up using your knees you go swinging about.

[mr popular]

damn. i guess i'm not an original afterall :(

[DeeJay]

Pullups are better because you move your body through more spaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee..

[ExpertMode]

So let me get this straight, pull ups are better since your using more muscles, sorta like a compound movement (squat) is better for legs than leg press?

[Fanya]

So let me get this straight, pull ups are better since your using more muscles, sorta like a compound movement (squat) is better for legs than leg press?

Yes.

[ExpertMode]

Ok cool, thanks for the tip.