Tips for Standing Fulls

[Towlie2110]

Any tips at all would be helpful. I don't wanna get too specific in my problems just yet, but I have a problem getting enough height to land the flip. I can get the twist down, but then I have to put my hands down and land in the pushup.

Any other pre req's and drills would be appreciated as well.

[naota]

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/8530/eeeegr9.gif
when your whipped backtuck looks like this then you should start, but it is SUPER EASY to do a standing full onto hands and knees, but landing on your feet is very different. plus there are about 5 times as many things to concentrate on that a normal backtuck

also there are two different types. the "standing full" and the standing full.
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/619/mocksfvk2.gif
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2581/rookey341116096032kg5.gif
basically a "standing full" is to a standing full as a cork is to a gainerfull (the "standing full" is with a kick, but you get it...)

[Towlie2110]

thanks very helpful.

I was aware of the corkish standing full. It only looks good with a kick in it lol.

I'll try to make a gif of my whipped backtuck for you.

[Towlie2110]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/towlie2110/StandingWhip.gif

Sorry Photobucket botches up gifs

[Towlie2110]

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1190/whipbadqaulihm3.gif

[naota]

seems you've gotten more power (im dovicka's bro by the way) basically what you want to do is jump up and twist a little to the side, it is pretty natural to when you are going to full, then instead of pulling your arms in to the side like a regular full you want to pull down as hard a possible as well as to the side, that gets you the flip. try to jump up as much up as possible, it is the same techniques that you would for jumping up with a whipped backtuck.

now, I should say, it is very freaky and very hard to do, landing a standing full is like landing a backtuck standing up, ittakes lots of practice.

btw in one of sess's samplers he does a really good non-corked standing full, if you wanna see another clip.

[Towlie2110]

Aha, I think the pulling down part will help me get around.

I've been going at it like a regular tumbling pass full.

Damn that full gif is nice.

Ill post some gifs of my attempts soon.

I did notice Adam's gif that you used. Is this the Red haired (unnatural) brother from the tutorial?

Thanks alot, you've been more than helpful.

[naota]

ya' im the red haired spotting guy. neway what do you use for your gifs? cause I used adobe imageready and I make them in like 45 seconds from clicking on the program to finished product, plus they are near-perfect quality

[Towlie2110]

I cut the video in movie maker, then open it in flash so I can resize optimize and export to gif. Then I used Imageshack I think to upload. They have a 1.5 limit and are good with gifs.

[Phil D]

can you round off full?

[Towlie2110]

Yes, and I took that concept into my standing fulls. Which it clearly is different I guess.

[Zephyranthes]

Mmmm, when I first started doing them, I would start both hands at one side, and bring them up to the opposite shoulder, and it would become a kind of horizontal spin, and I also had an improper back tuck at the time too. Then I learned a proper back tuck and that you are supposed to set like a normal back tuck and then twist, and they become completely inverted, but the spin wasn't as fast. Now I can back tuck landing standing straight up, and I basically just drilled the proper motion, and within a few practices, I could standing full like a mother. Sometimes I have to watch my power so I don't fall on my ass. I learned standing before roundoff full lol, so whenever I do them with roundoffs, I get lazy and don't throw as hard because there is so much more air time.

[Towlie2110]

lol That would explain your rotation.

Thanks for the advice.

People seem to look at this move as ridiculus and near impossible. But It just isnt that hard.

[Zephyranthes]

yea my cheerleading team thinks I am absolutely amazing that I can do it, but it really isn't that hard. I am the star tumbler, and I've only been tricking for almost a year.

[Nick B]

People seem to look at this move as ridiculus and near impossible. But It just isnt that hard.

lol, funny coming from you. can't wait to see the video >.>

[Izzi]

Hey Towlie, Im going to have to disagree with the whole whip back approach and the approach of trying to do it like a full out of a tumble pass. A standing full is totaly different from a round off backhand spring full. What you want to do is learn an standing arabain, once you get that down. Do your standing arabain and half turn out of it. Watch the ground the whole time. I got alot of my advice from Matt Mez the guy in the animated gif. He uses the same approach.


Here is my standing layed out straight arm full, and 4 fulls in a row. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3sI9K55M4s)

[Phil D]

hey towlie, post a vid of your round off full, i wanna see

[NoSpineMan]

I think you should first get your backflip higher so you can land it pretty much standing straight up.

[Towlie2110]

Damn izzi!

Also I said I shouldn't approach it like a round off full.

I'll try and get a vid of my RO full so you can see.

Also a third way of doing a full I heard was to do an arabian then halftwist it. I heard it looked different.

[Phil D]

Also a third way of doing a full I heard was to do an arabian then halftwist it. I heard it looked different.
this is an arabian full, a different move as you are tucked and its more front flippish

[Workerz]

Hey Towlie, Im going to have to disagree with the whole whip back approach and the approach of trying to do it like a full out of a tumble pass. A standing full is totaly different from a round off backhand spring full. What you want to do is learn an standing arabain, once you get that down. Do your standing arabain and half turn out of it. Watch the ground the whole time. I got alot of my advice from Matt Mez the guy in the animated gif. He uses the same approach.


Here is my standing layed out straight arm full, and 4 fulls in a row. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3sI9K55M4s)

Izzi! Lol finally one of those rare, Izzi posts. Man I have been looking for your sampler for ages and I can't find it anywhere I wanna see it, where is it, I dunno if you have more than one or not, there was one where you were tricking in a park and did a few kicks at the start.

[Izzi]

Haha hey workerz, hows it going? Not to long ago i pulled all my videos off the internet, I felt they were getting dated and that i needed new ones. The clip of the layed out full and the 4 fulls, was actually from a video Im currently making. It should of been out a week ago but due to a bad hip flexor pull, a camera malfuction, and my vacation from work that starts today Im going to take a break and push it back a week or 2. I hope to release 3 videos by the end of the summer.

Towlie, the standing arabain half turn is going to be really weird at first, but like everything it will get easier and evolve. An arabain half out doesn't mean you have to be tucked either. For instanced if you wanted to do a layed out full from that set up, you do more of a arabian pike half out. The pike being more open like a hollow. 95% of gymnast will tell you not to learn it this way. Which is true in away. But then again gymnast don't do standing anything, they are scored on tumble passes. I've went threw alot of stages learning this move, and threw it all I feel this is the most efficient way to do this move. My advice is to find and start practicing on a trampoline, you can get alot of reps in without killing your joints and getting to tired.

[Towlie2110]

I will try the arabian approach, because I've currently just landed the standing arabian

[Alexx]

nice one man :good: