how to raize?

[flip ©]

hello everybody, time is gone, and now i wanna learn a raiz

i did not find so much tuts for this trick, so i please u that some of u who knows this trick and its secreds, that u can share some adivse for it.

perhaps we can list all important facts about this trick, so its become easier to learn it for everybody!

ty!

cya!:smile:

[Xeult]

ok,
Fact #1: It's spelled raiz

[flip ©]

lol i know that, but i dont know why i spelled it this way :D
:P

more pls ;)

[Ryoda]

Wow, that guy is really, really sickeningly happy. Anyway.
Raiz - Prereqs are tornado kick aaand... that's it, I'd say.
Do your tornado kick setup, except dip down more as you step through, and lift up your first leg harder. Throw everything UP, push your hips out, arch your back if you so wish, and look for your landing. It's that easy. Just go out and try a couple. If you're not retarded you'll get them within 5 goes.

[flip ©]

sounds easy, but what tornadokicksetup u mean, i know 2 or 3 ^^:cool:

[Peleke]

I'm not retarded, and I still can't raiz. The invert is a bitch, I'll see if I cah find that raiz tutorial I had awhile back.

[flip ©]

that would be great, some more ppl who knows important facts?
because tomorrow i´m gonna to learn it!

[BBoySafety]

just try and figure out those facts for yourself
it's best to learn from your mistakes

[Scalco]

http://www.teamarashi.com/?page_id=74

click on raiz tutorial

[Sly]

Man. That made it look simple.

[flip ©]

argh^^

this tut i know allready,
but its the best i found ;)

but i dont completly understand the difference to a gainerflash oO
^^
ty :)

[Xeult]

wtf? gflash? it's like totally different moves! u don't do a 540/tornado setup at all in a gflash! Just look at raiz as an inverted tornado then analyse a good raiz in slow-mo...u'll understand it...For my part it was harder to get the raiz than it was to undrestand how the move works :tongue:

[flip ©]

hehe
yesterday, i tried the move, but i couldnt rember the whole one :D

i think i have to save a slowmo on my ipod to watch it druing the training over and over again ;(
othe4rwise i never learn that trick ^^
monday i get it ;)

[JKT]

Does any1 knoe of a good slo mo raiz clip?

[thereid]

Does any1 knoe of a good slo mo raiz clip?theres a few kinda towards the end of crazyasian unveiled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD91znp1n78

[JCslug]

raiz are very easy to learn. you need to make sure though, that you are not trying to kick up, otherwise, your legs wont look as good as when they are trailing. tornado setup, but your body will be closer to horizontal at the takeoff. look back, open your chest, and kick your legs sidewards. sorry for vague explanations. ill show a vid when i get the chance

[Vaughnya]

i watch many raiz tuts too and i tryed them maybe 30 times already but i just can not get inverted! I HATE IT! i try every tip any has given me, even one time at MY gathering CrazyAsian gave me tips and watched me do some and i still could not get inverted!

[JKT]

I just really need a slo mo raiz... also has anyone seen the cartwheel variation when you do a raiz but with hands (not jumping into hands but actully like a carthweel or 1990)

[Augenatic]

U talking about masterswipe? lol :P?

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Just look at the tuts.

www.kyukodo.com/celebtut.htm

[JKT]

U talking about masterswipe? lol :P?

No its not master swipe it looks like a vertical raiz but with hands, not master swipe. Its not a popular move but if you go to "dopemoves.com" (dope name) then you search for RAIZ and they only have the cartwheel variation... check it out it might be the new prequisite for raiz...

Also another way to descibe it is hollow back + cartwheel = handplanted raiz??? Just check the website... lol



Also if you have seen muay thai vs capoeira fight does tony jaa do a raiz there or some variation?

[JKT]

http://www.dopemoves.com/readarticle.php?article_id=14


Here it is, if the first vid doesnt work scroll down there is a small gif of it...

[BBoySafety]

it's called a gumby

[JKT]

Thanks bboysafety, isit a popular move?

[BBoySafety]

no not really, but it's still a cool move

maybe it's popular in capoeira, since it's originally a capoeira move (i believe), you should know

[JKT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK7gMWfEBbA

[Bentinho]

No its not master swipe it looks like a vertical raiz but with hands, not master swipe. Its not a popular move but if you go to "dopemoves.com" (dope name) then you search for RAIZ and they only have the cartwheel variation... check it out it might be the new prequisite for raiz...

Also another way to descibe it is hollow back + cartwheel = handplanted raiz??? Just check the website... lol



Also if you have seen muay thai vs capoeira fight does tony jaa do a raiz there or some variation?



haha, new pre-requisite for raiz? in capoeira that IS the pre-requisite. :wink: we call it au de coluna(wheel of the spine). basically, when you do your cartwheel you want to kick your legs back behind you and turn you hips up...you're essentially doing a backbend cartwheel. the only difference between this move and raiz is in raiz, since you dont have the arms to catch you, you have to lead with a hard upper body twist.

i dont remember Tony Jaa doing a raiz but i remember Lateef doing au de coluna...

[Bentinho]

looking at your video..you can get them on the ground. dont kick up so much, kick towards the direction your going more. also as soon as your start leaving the ground bring your arms to your chest and turn your head hard.

[JKT]

Are you sure that au de coluna is the popular name?
What i mean is if i searched au de coluna would it come up or is there a more "popular" name for example au batido is the popular name for Lkicks although in my group they have a different name.

[Bentinho]

au de coluna is the name i hear the most. ive also heard it called au esquisito but its been awhile since i've heard it called that though. there's like 4 different names for most capoeira moves though hahaha

[diegoipl]

i think au d columna isnt neccesarily a pre req.
well, it helped me 4 the raiz to use the ARMS, u swing both arms (specially the second one) in the setup from up to down and behind (and then maybe up dunno really this) with strenght and violence.
i hav a question, in the au d columna u kick the first leg up with the heel, should it be like that in the raiz? cuz ive seen that not everybody does that, instead they just lift up the leg sideways or sumthing like that. i dont decide myself wich i should use, cuz each one gives me different feelings.:dead:

[JKT]

au de coluna is the name i hear the most. ive also heard it called au esquisito but its been awhile since i've heard it called that though. there's like 4 different names for most capoeira moves though hahaha

I know its so annoying, i think Au batido is the best example...

Btw does anyone think there is a connection from a raiz / sideswipe and a doubleleg?

[JKT]

haha, new pre-requisite for raiz? in capoeira that IS the pre-requisite. :wink: we call it au de coluna(wheel of the spine). basically, when you do your cartwheel you want to kick your legs back behind you and turn you hips up...you're essentially doing a backbend cartwheel. the only difference between this move and raiz is in raiz, since you dont have the arms to catch you, you have to lead with a hard upper body twist.

i dont remember Tony Jaa doing a raiz but i remember Lateef doing au de coluna...

Whats weird about this move is i think you have to do it on your weak side...
I can't believe im scared of this move (at the moment).

Au de coluna
http://www.capoeira4all.com/movies/index.php?id=108&curr=7

My raiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYvA6pTkek

Also if i did this with a mirror BEHIND me should i be able to see my self in the mirrior or is that leaning back too far?

[Bentinho]

i think au d columna isnt neccesarily a pre req.
well, it helped me 4 the raiz to use the ARMS, u swing both arms (specially the second one) in the setup from up to down and behind (and then maybe up dunno really this) with strenght and violence.
i hav a question, in the au d columna u kick the first leg up with the heel, should it be like that in the raiz? cuz ive seen that not everybody does that, instead they just lift up the leg sideways or sumthing like that. i dont decide myself wich i should use, cuz each one gives me different feelings.:dead:

personally, i think the takeoff is just preference and how flexible you are. i kick with the heel, i find it helps me keep the bend in my back easier.(for au de coluna). for my raiz..i actually turn my toes toward the direction im going for prep on the landing. just my preference, experiment and find whats comfortable for you.

[Bentinho]

Whats weird about this move is i think you have to do it on your weak side...
I can't believe im scared of this move (at the moment).

Au de coluna
http://www.capoeira4all.com/movies/index.php?id=108&curr=7

My raiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYvA6pTkek

Also if i did this with a mirror BEHIND me should i be able to see my self in the mirrior or is that leaning back too far?

its kind of like a backhandspring, as long as you keep your arms extended, you wont land on your head. :cool:

you should lean back on your raiz. if looking behind you helps (i learned it this way) then do it. now that im comfortable with the movement i look at the floor to spot my landing.

[Scalco]

wtf? gflash? it's like totally different moves! u don't do a 540/tornado setup at all in a gflash! Just look at raiz as an inverted tornado then analyse a good raiz in slow-mo...u'll understand it...For my part it was harder to get the raiz than it was to undrestand how the move works :tongue:

It's not a gainer flash. It's just a really inverted raiz :tongue:

[JKT]

hmmmmmm this is a hard move, and im more afraid of the handed one than the aerial one...

[Martialartsguyfl]

my raiz

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3uxepw

it also helps to learn an opposite side gainer flash

[JKT]

nice raiz
what do you think of my raiz in my avatar (unless its changed)...

[JKT]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xvR7zP_kuI

[Scalco]

Your arms are just dragging in your raiz. Swing your arms and push your hips up. everything is going up but your hips.

[JKT]

Should my hips be above my head?