AHHHH!

[Johnnymushio]

is a hand stand considered a trick? cuz ive been trying that for 3 weeks and still cant do it.

everytime i do a handstand i just fall either all the way forward or back.

how come ive been mentally preparing for a backflip for a year, and think about it everyday, but when i go to do it i just jump up and fall on my butt, back, or head (head only once).

would this stuff be easier if i too classes? do classes even exist?

this is so... FRUSTRATING

i can't do this, i guess.

[Xeult]

Ok, first thing off...Chill the fuck out man, ur not supposed to get everything u wish in a blink of an eye! Learning tricks takes time, unless ur very talanted of course. And a handstand is not considered a trick, but having a good handstand is important for l8r tricks. And 3 weeks is not nearly enough. Did u learn to stand upright in only 3 weeks? Didn't think so. And the classes that can help u with bflip is gymnastics (tumbling), but even there u'll be forced/adviced (depends on the class) to do a bunch of shit b4 u can try a bflip. It takes time, ok? Just don't give up on it and keep training...GL

EDIT: sry I let this out in the main post :tongue: It's not enough just thinking of a trick. U have to practise it, practise it a lot. E.g. just thinking of the test won't make u write it better, but practising b4 the test will! Or another example: Thinking of driving a car won't make u a leet driver, but driving and racing and dedicating ur time to it will (hopefully)

[Martialartsguyfl]

- if its any comfort i learned a backflip in a couple of weeks. hahahahha. its pretty easy make sure you have a good understanding of the move so you dont just jump up and bail out, watch tutorials, get a spotter, get a soft patch of grass or do it onto a matress. shouldnt take long as long as you are in descent physical shape.

- Hand stand you must lock your elbows and flex your ass and point your toes, and if you fall to fall foward dig into the ground with the tips of your fingers, if you start to fall back lift your fingers up and place more weight on the hand.

[Peleke]

The only person stopping you backflip is you, no one else
Qouted for truth and emphasis.

[Johnnymushio]

ok the backflip is impossible. i have been trying to do one since last march and its now october.

i feel like fighting every single one of you that call me a pusyy and make me feel even more horrible than i do now.

how long is that, since march,,, ummm 7 total months, and still no backflip.

and u know what respsonses i will get to this?

oh just do it its easy, balblabla.

im not afraid if pain, and i know backflips cant kill u in the grass.

i have no one to spot me, and i want to do this.

then ppl will say oh if u really wanted to do it you would. i swear if u said that to me in my face i would punch the crap out of you im so irritated.

oh, i cant forget this one, oh stop complaning and do it!

i havent been on this site in months up until recently figuring the message boards are useless for help.

i just want one freaking person to be in the same position as me so i wont be alone, being alone is the worst feeling.

im pretty sure im going to stop this sport, its a major stress causer, and im getting no where, big waste of time.

[Peleke]

You know what? I didn't have anyone to help me with the backflip. I didn't have a spotter. I felt alone. I sucked it up.

If you're going to quit, we honestly don't give a shit. You're overestimating what we can do for you here. We're here for help with moves, we can't make you do it. If I could just appear behind you and spot you, believe me, I would. But I can't. So deal with it.

If you want to fight us, go ahead. Most of us are more than capable of beating the shit out of you, so thats your loss. Too bad you can't just make yourself appear in front of us, isn't it? And noone called you a pussy, those were your own words.

Chances are, the backflip isn't a fear problem. Get a video camera somehow; borrow from a friend, from your mom, steal it from Wal-Mart, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. Then film yourself (That should be self-explanatory, but seeing as you've started two "I'm feeling sorry for myself" threads, I figure I might as well spell it out) and analyze what you're doing wrong. If you think you're going to quit, than go the fuck ahead, because if you have those feelings in a sport like this, thats all you're going to end up doing in the long run anyway.

And now that I'm done flaming, I'll start helping. For the backflip, you need to jump straight UP.

http://trickstutorials.com/images/t_bflip7.jpg

That lean comes from the knees coming to the chest, not jumping back. Go UP, bring your knees to your chin, flip, land.

www.kyukodo.com

Download TKD_Andys Backflip help vid. And work on other moves; thinking about the backflip all day never helped me. Neither did being pessimistic, come to think of it.

[Johnnymushio]

you are not listeningn u r IGNORANT

ive been trying to do this since march, ive basically memerized the tutorials.

who wouldnt feel like this after 7 months of failure? i always here ppl complain about landing on their knees. if i landed on my knees i would ocnsider that a backflip!

[Peleke]

I'm ignorant?

You spelled "you", "are", "memorized", AND "listening" wrong. Smart ass.

Anyway, tutorials are only for reference. We've given you all we can, if you're going to come bitch about how much you suck, than thats fine, but we're not going to be able to help you anymore. Take you what you can get, and use it.

And a tip for life: If you're going to call someone ignorant, at least do it right.

I've been trying the 540 for around 8 months. Failure. But see, I learn from my mistakes, and I learnt long ago that self-pity just pisses everyoen off.

[Less than Dan]

(Eugh, I hate college internet)

Okay, I'm going to make this simple. Fact.

You have four options. FOUR.

1. Get a spotter.
2. Swallow your goddamn balls and do it, because there are people out there who are DISABLED and are forcing themselves to do things that are simply much harder and more difficult than a simple backflip.
3. Give up and work on other tricks for a long time.
4. Get the hell out of tricking, because if you don't have the devotion, then you will go no where.

You can whine, complain, get as frustrated and hurt as you want; if you don't want to push your limits, then please, don't fool yourself any longer.

Good day.

[Peleke]

(Eugh, I hate college internet)

Okay, I'm going to make this simple. Fact.

You have four options. FOUR.

1. Get a spotter.
2. Swallow your goddamn balls and do it, because there are people out there who are DISABLED and are forcing themselves to do things that are simply much harder and more difficult than a simple backflip.
3. Give up and work on other tricks for a long time.
4. Get the hell out of tricking, because if you don't have the devotion, then you will go no where.

You can whine, complain, get as frustrated and hurt as you want; if you don't want to push your limits, then please, don't fool yourself any longer.

Good day.
Thank you.

Yes, Johnny, in case you were wondering what he meant by 'disabled', my good friend Dan here is lacking vision in his (left?) eye, and also has a collapsed lung, yet he can do a rodeo. Can you do a rodeo? No, you can't. You can't not be able to do a backflip, you're just not doing the backflip. Simple.

[Less than Dan]

Thank you.

Yes, Johnny, in case you were wondering what he meant by 'disabled', my good friend Dan here is lacking vision in his (left?) eye, and also has a collapsed lung, yet he can do a rodeo. Can you do a rodeo? No, you can't. You can't not be able to do a backflip, you're just not doing the backflip. Simple.

Right side, sir. Right side for both afflictions. THe backflip is the least of my worries. I had to learn that move AGAIN, without a spotter, blind on the right side of my goddamn head. If I CAN DO THAT, you can too.

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Dude, your attitude sucks. It took me absolutely ages to even try a standing back tuck. I thought through it, watched every tutorial under the sun, but my mind would still stop me doing the technique. You need to break down the barriers either all in a oner i.e. just go and do it, hit the deck, and realise that you won't die when you attempt it, or build it up gradually with someone helping you (don't tell me you don't have any friends). I wasn't one of those people that has no fear and can just try things. I had to erode my fear, chip away at it, break it down. Now I am definitely getting there and will try evrything except for double twists and tucks. I won't die, I know that. It took me ages to get there.

You are right, there are some complete tossers on these boards who won't help in any way. "i learnt a backlip in one day so you should be able to or you are a pussy... blah blah blah." It's bollocks, everyone is different and evryone progresses at different rates. It's all about plateaus. Get past that first plateau and you are good for a while until the next one comes up. Just ignore the tossers, what kind of people are they anyway..? Are they anyone to be worried about..?

you don't get accepted on these boards unless you show grit and perseverance. Show them you are worth their comments. I'm not there yet, people slag me off all the time, but I don't care. There are some nice people on here if you know where to look.

On teh other hand, if you want to give up and can't be arsed, grow some bollocks and get out there and fucking do something.

[Peleke]

You should donate your right kidney, too.




EDIT:...I'm sorry...

EDIT 2: Gaz is totally right. Chip that fear. His Site kicks ass, as well.

[Less than Dan]

Hahahaha, I should! I may as well become a cyborg on my right side.

[Peleke]

Haha, you'd be...monoorganic...o.o

[Kyukodo Gaz]

How'd it happen Dan..? You da man for busting those tricks out!

[Peleke]

The eye was mangled by a pool cue. The lung I'll leave to him, I'm not just going to type that without permission.

Kyukodo I love your site.

EDIT: Woops, I already said that.

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Cheers bud! Lotsa work going into it at the moment. I'd like to make it a hosting hub like Club 540, but for samps rather than tricks. It would stop people having to fuck about with yousendit etc. Also, the tricktionary is eating my time soooooo much! The kicktionary is vveeeerrrrrryyyyy long, and I know I am intentioanlly missing out some variations simply due to length issues!

That's shit about the pool cue, really bad. But props for showing your body who is boss and nailing them techniques despite the adversity! Harder path, longer journey = real achievement. Good shit. i like reading about stuff like that on here.

[Peleke]

I'm actually writing one of my essays on Dan, believe it or not. Mainly because if I need material, I can just PM him, haha. That and the people in my class need to stop bitching about their 'problems', damnit!!!

EDIT: You know what makes it worse, is it was on December 25th.

Dan, I hope I'm not disclosing too much >.>

[skullmyst]

DUDE, in the time it took you to post the 14 of your posts that are all "OMG HELP I CAN'T DO HANDSTAND IMA PUNCH YOU!!!", you could have learned how to do them better.

Stop whining like a 9 yr old (unless you are one) and get out and practice! You are not magic, therefore you cannot be able to tricks on your first try.

And if you were really trying a handstand since march, you would be able to do one. They are easy enough. You are obviously lying about that.

If you hate tricking, then quit! we dont need your nasty posts around here!

Don't tell the people that are trying to help you that you are going to punch the crap out of them. Its not nice.

[Less than Dan]

How did it happen? Well, gather around, gentlemen, because I've got a story to tell.

The lung was the product of a stupid choice I made with myself a few years back, when I was fifteen. I was a severe bi-polar and depressed person, and it basically tormented me every single day. I had some serious problems I devoloped due to the severe anger problems I had from when I was a child. Eventually, I made the stupid choice one night, because I had lost self control. I snapped and I took my whole bottle of anti-depressants. I was rushed to the hospital, and there, I stopped breathing and my heart stopped beating. I was technically dead for about a little over a minute, the doctor told me after. I never realized it...all I could see was white, just whitness when it happened. Everything was white. Anyways, they shocked me back to life, and they could only re-inflate my left lung. My right would re-inflate, but it would simply lose all of the air. I can't use it anymore. From there, I've basically have just be rehabilitating from it...

As for the eye, my friend was swinging around a poolstick like a sword one day, and I had walked by him, and it swung right into my eye. It went and pushed the eyeball into the socket, and it tore in and stuck into my eye socket. Yes, he had to pull the damn thing out of my eye o_o. I lost the vision in my eye, and I have to get a check up and surgery every six months to keep infection out of my eye and to keep the eye socket from re-tearing. Lovely. That was about a year ago.

Yep, so therefore, after that, I had to relearn all of the moves I already had. It was hard, but I've powered through it, and I'm better than before. It's given me perspective...

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Hmmmm, yeah. 'Problems.' My ass.

Xmas!!! Shit man. Now that ruined his day!

Edit: My ebst friend was Bi Polar and he tried 3 times. I spent a lot of time in hospital with him :smile: He is now in a great job, with an awesome lady, and beginning to love life again. that was a rocky journey. REally rocky. It cut me up for a good year and a half. Thank god things are better, as I hope they are for you.

As for the pool cue, that's just really bad luck. You have done awesomely well just to nail the techniques you had! Mucho respect. I mean that.

[Peleke]

If I was the friend that swung the pool cue, I would be a nervous wreck.

[Benji]

ok the backflip is impossible. i have been trying to do one since last march and its now october.

i feel like fighting every single one of you that call me a pusyy and make me feel even more horrible than i do now.

how long is that, since march,,, ummm 7 total months, and still no backflip.

and u know what respsonses i will get to this?

oh just do it its easy, balblabla.

im not afraid if pain, and i know backflips cant kill u in the grass.

i have no one to spot me, and i want to do this.

then ppl will say oh if u really wanted to do it you would. i swear if u said that to me in my face i would punch the crap out of you im so irritated.

oh, i cant forget this one, oh stop complaning and do it!

i havent been on this site in months up until recently figuring the message boards are useless for help.

i just want one freaking person to be in the same position as me so i wont be alone, being alone is the worst feeling.

im pretty sure im going to stop this sport, its a major stress causer, and im getting no where, big waste of time.


Cry me a fucking river. I hope you land on your head.

Oh yeah, I learned the backflip in one session. Maybe you just suck.

[Peleke]

Hahahaha, nice and to the point.

I <3 Benji.

[kinetic]

Damn, how old are you? Who does this? This has been your fourth bitch thread. At least one would be fine.{not really} Whats the fucking point in these threads? Everyone always curses you out, and you waste people's time by not accepting our help, and just crying yourself to sleep every night. Go ahead, slice me with your emo blade, fucker.
{Ive never flamed before, it feels good!}

[Peleke]

Doesn't it? :D

[BL4ZN]

all the respect for you dan, you are one amazing person :)

[thereid]

if you want to backflip that bad and ur having that much trouble take a tumbling class, oh and yes respect mr.less[dan i mean]

[Peleke]

I think Juji should make a new forum rule.

Disrespect LTD, get a goddamn I.P ban.

[kinetic]

Dan is someone who never goes online anymore, and doesnt speak to me :depressed

[Peleke]

I'm never online either.







...Are you trying to imply that I'm not as important as Dan?!

[Johnnymushio]

where can i take a tumbling class, what is tumbling

[Peleke]

Tumbling=flips and shit. Look for a gymnastics academy.

[Less than Dan]

Thank you, guys :) But I certainly do not deserve respect. I made a very stupid choice. I'm simply paying for it now.

That's why you guys around here rock my world. You give me perspective and motivation. Thank you guys, really. You guys are the ones who deserve the respect.

[Peleke]

Thank you, guys :) But I certainly do not deserve respect. I made a very stupid choice. I'm simply paying for it now.

That's why you guys around here rock my world. You give me perspective and motivation. Thank you guys, really. You guys are the ones who deserve the respect.
I could point out many reasons (from a medical standpoint) as to why the lung was not completely your fault. But I'm not going to.

You know we wouldn't let you quit anything, haha. Hell, if I found out someone jabbed your other eye, I'd hike to maryland and give you mine haha! I owe you for the backflip, I have a story to tell about that one b@bor.

[Karate-Obi]

Thank you, guys :) But I certainly do not deserve respect. I made a very stupid choice. I'm simply paying for it now.

That's why you guys around here rock my world. You give me perspective and motivation. Thank you guys, really. You guys are the ones who deserve the respect.

why dont u stop talkin all this mushy stuff and teach me how to raise a fricking charizard! i want one now!

anyways back on topic... yellow pages look up gymanstics, white pages look up gymnastics call them tell them u want to take tumbling classes, pray ure with a buncha hot girls that love to help, and u will be set, eventually u will learn how to rotate yourself enough for this and these threads wont be needed... as for the handstand.... uh what can i say? just keep doing em... do em against a wall so u can see how much pressure to put on each part of ure hand to keep ureself upright

[Xeult]

haha!...emo blade...

Oh and Dan everytime u tell the story, it makes me feel like a pansy :tongue: Ur fucking great man! much respect 4 jooooo....:smile:

Oh, and for the thread starter: What part of my post didn't u understand? oh, and it took me many months to get my bflip and I still can't do a decent handstand! I fell on my neck a thousand times b4 I could get sufficient height to not land on my head. Don't come here whining u can't get it, it's just a period, don't take it so serious. Try learning other moves (aerial, 540 etc). There's a lot of tricks out there, don't get stuck on bflip...

[xin ']

JohnnyMushio.. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CUNT

[Peleke]

JohnnyMushio.. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CUNT
I don't think this was in order right now.

But when he comes back, it will be a great way to greet him! Good job!

[kinetic]

I liked my flaming, but it was ignored :sad:

[Less than Dan]

I liked my flaming, but it was ignored :sad:
Shut the fuck up, you zulu spear chucking dirtroller tar baby asshat minority. :)

[kinetic]

I miss you :depressed ... you never go online anymore
EDIT: Nice rasicm :smile:

[karategirl11]

how do you come up with these hilarious insults, Dan--hahaha

[kinetic]

how do you come up with these hilarious insults, Dan--hahaha
BACKFLIP?!

[karategirl11]

BACKFLIP?!

no, sorry =[


..soon i hope

[Peleke]

no, sorry =[


..soon i hope
You know what? If I have to, I'm flying up to New Jersey to spot the hell outta you.

[Final Prophecy]

no, sorry =[


..soon i hope

Holy crap i havent seen a post from you in ages.

[kinetic]

She has such good height on them, but she lands on her knees :eh: