juji, about your power drive homebrew

[CakeNcream]

i dont really think DMAE is necessary at all. personally i take tyrosine/taurine and some caffeine pre workout and i go fucking crazy at the gym. i think those are all you need honestly. if your lifting weights then maybe some citruline malate or BCAA's.

[compleks]

Yes Juji, you should have done your research...

[shengoikee]

personally i drink noni juice.

[CakeNcream]

Yes Juji, you should have done your research...

just trying to save you all some moola

[Lobo]

Juji was just trying to make homemade Powerdrive, if he likes the product I guess there's no reason to bother fucking with it. But yes, I agree, I don't think DMAE is particularly potent. There's also a bunch of other stuff you could throw in besides just tyrosine, taurine and caffeine too.

[CakeNcream]

Juji was just trying to make homemade Powerdrive, if he likes the product I guess there's no reason to bother fucking with it. But yes, I agree, I don't think DMAE is particularly potent. There's also a bunch of other stuff you could throw in besides just tyrosine, taurine and caffeine too.

any other suggestions?

and the reason why im saying this is because juji wants to save money so eliminating DMAE would save like $20 or so

[Lobo]

Uh, of the top of my head: alpha lipoic acid, ALCAR, B5, D ribose, glucuronolactone... Maybe beta alanine and ginkgo, but I dunno if they're really very useful.

[CakeNcream]

Uh, of the top of my head: alpha lipoic acid, ALCAR, B5, D ribose, glucuronolactone... Maybe beta alanine and ginkgo, but I dunno if they're really very useful.
ive heard good things about beta-alanine

[Jujimufu]

If I just took out DMAE, or added Taurine or any other hundred nootropics in existence, it wouldn't be a powerdrive knockoff anymore, it just be a: Take all these random nootropics article. My goal was to emulate the formula of a major supplement company the best I could. Their formula has more backing than what "CakeNCream" on the TT.com forums recommends based on his personal experience (No offense to you of course; But you understand.)

[CakeNcream]

i do understand where you are comming from, i was just throwing out a suggestion with the intent of saving you money. i know i might sound defensive but i assure you i do not feel that way. and about their formula having more backing then my experience, of course only because they are a major company. just look at dat dere celltech. why not just take regular CEE or mono? IMO its important to weed out whats working from whats just a filler.

[Jujimufu]

just look at dat dere celltech. why not just take regular CEE or mono? IMO its important to weed out whats working from whats just a filler.

You have a very good point :smile:, if you wanted to replicate the effects of a product and save some money, look for what the most important components are and find what you can weed out as you mentioned. Very good practice and something I have done myself for a long time.

Not that it takes anything away from your point, the DMAE only costs me $0.03 a serving. If I included this in the stack and took it everyday for a whole month it still wouldn't even cost me $1.

If the ingredient truly couldn't justify its cost I'd end up questioning it or skipping it entirely. But DMAE is not a big expense. In fact the whole stack is actually very cost effective. I know the Tyrosine is the big player in the formula, the most expensive ingredient in the formula and most likely the determining key for the stack's effectiveness (I noticed a stronger effect when I doubled the amount of Tyrosine each day taking it for a week.) But I didn't need to hack at the formula or overly scrutinize its ingredients because the minor additions are not a financial burden. :wink:

[DeeJay]

What do you use to make ice, juji?

[CakeNcream]

What do you use to make ice, juji?
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1511
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2459
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=537

i personally like Xtend, which is ICE + citruline malate

[CakeNcream]

Not that it takes anything away from your point, the DMAE only costs me $0.03 a serving. If I included this in the stack and took it everyday for a whole month it still wouldn't even cost me $1.


i wasnt aware of how cheap it actually was. DMAE has its benifits so at that price i guess its a moot point :tongue:

[Lobo]

ive heard good things about beta-alanine
Yeah, I heard it's only effective when taken multiple times a day though. Which is kind of a hassle.

[Tsumaru]

On the note of caffeine, you guys do realise it's physically addictive right?

Oh, and in the original Powerdrive, ginkgo biloba is actually in it as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Spacey]

Well about the Homebrew powerdrive I have learned my lesson and that is that it's cheaper to order the powerdrive from America.

So far I have bought, 500mg of L-tyrosine 50 capsules, and 60 capsules Phosphatidyl Choline yielding 500mg per capsules as well. These costed me around 25 bucks each. The Phosphatidyl Choline contains all the B6 vitamin I need as well though so that was okay but over and all this has costed me over 40 bucks and I haven't even bougth DMAE yet.

But I'm probably not going to buy it, I'll probably buy some other nootropic something cheaper, any recommendations?

[Vladamir]

Hello people your probably wondering why im frustrated, arent you, well ill tell you, i love tricking, and where i live their is not a hint of it. Their are only three people i know who trick where i live me, my friend Bob, and his brother Dan, and me. I need to find a gymnasium or something, because tricking on mud and grass in the middle of some dudes feild hurts!:bandit:

[CakeNcream]

Hello people your probably wondering why im frustrated, arent you, well ill tell you, i love tricking, and where i live their is not a hint of it. Their are only three people i know who trick where i live me, my friend Bob, and his brother Dan, and me. I need to find a gymnasium or something, because tricking on mud and grass in the middle of some dudes feild hurts!:bandit:
what?

[Jujimufu]

What do you use to make ice, juji?

Anhydrous ammonia, lithium tabs, starter fluid, ephedrine hcl, and sulfuric acid.

[Spacey]

I hope you guys are talking about ice as in h2o and not ice as in that freaky little drug that will turn you in to a walking skeleton, severly addicted to snorting poison and slowly tearing on his intestines untill he will throw up his lungs in an orgie of blood and gore.

[Jujimufu]

I hope you guys are talking about ice as in h2o and not ice as in that freaky little drug that will turn you in to a walking skeleton, severly addicted to snorting poison and slowly tearing on his intestines untill he will throw up his lungs in an orgie of blood and gore.

Ice as in Water? I don't understand? Are you talking about freezing water into cubes? Will that really cool my beverages? I can't wait to try it, that sounds so much simpler, what a great idea! And all this time I've been spending hours in the bath tub with masks, buckets, hoses, and flammables trying to get my drinks cold!

[Spacey]

Ice as in Water? I don't understand? Are you talking about freezing water into cubes? Will that really cool my beverages? I can't wait to try it, that sounds so much simpler, what a great idea! And all this time I've been spending hours in the bath tub with masks, buckets, hoses, and flammables trying to get my drinks cold!

Best comeback EVER :punched:

[compleks]

Your mum's the best comeback ever.

[Lobo]

Comeback your anus.

[Tsumaru]

*tear* ...I love you guys...

[DeeJay]

Of course ice the goddamn drug. I'm glad Juji got it.

Jesus if you have to ask how to make goddamn ice cubes you should be sitting in a retard cage.

[slik]

You guys take ice? Wtf...

Ice as in Water? I don't understand? Are you talking about freezing water into cubes? Will that really cool my beverages? I can't wait to try it, that sounds so much simpler, what a great idea! And all this time I've been spending hours in the bath tub with masks, buckets, hoses, and flammables trying to get my drinks cold!
Sigged :tongue:

[DeeJay]

I heard ice makes you insane and look 10 years older.

[The Alien Elite]

Ice is some hardcore shit. It has so much crazy shit in it, including bleach. My friend does it; I haven't seen him in a long time, so idk what he looks like now, but from the recent pics of him it doesn't look like it's had an adverse effect on him. But I've heard the purest form of it can keep you up for weeks just from one hit...crazy.

Funny, there are these commercials on youtube that have the slogan, "It's amazing what you can do, when you're on meth." I wonder if people see tricking and think, "Damn, yep, they're on speed." lol

EDIT: Hello people your probably wondering why im frustrated, arent you, well ill tell you, i love tricking, and where i live their is not a hint of it. Their are only three people i know who trick where i live me, my friend Bob, and his brother Dan, and me. I need to find a gymnasium or something, because tricking on mud and grass in the middle of some dudes feild hurts!

...tf.

[chinamen_6]

How do you guys take the homebrew? You can grind up everything except for the Lecithin, so do you just squeeze it out of the capsule?

[Jujimufu]

How do you guys take the homebrew? You can grind up everything except for the Lecithin, so do you just squeeze it out of the capsule?

Just take them on the side.

But they sell powdered lecithin, and often it's cheaper. I'm going to try that when I run out of the lecithin pills. B6 is easy to crush too, if you wanted to toss that in and have a pure powder concoction.

Lately I've been increasing the dose of everything but the B6 and the results are much better. Currently @ 7 grams tyrosine, 2 servings of lecithin (as per container) 50 mg B6 and 1/2 tsp DMAE, which is over two servings of powerdrive. MUCH, MUCH better.

[Jujimufu]

Oh, and I've been mixing the powders in with these suckers:

http://www.powerblastenergy.com/images/product_img.jpg

Flavored caffeine powder + a bunch of extra energy enhancers. So now it even tastes better than powerdrive; Like an orange soda. Fucking ace.

[glide2]

I bet Juji has his own private lab in which he experiments enhancing cocktails. Soon enough we'll have a bionic, chemically powered Juji who doesn't sleep, jumps 5 meters high and deadlifts a tour bus.

[Spacey]

I wouldn't recommend increasing your dosage of the Lecithin too much though too high doses of Acetylcholine is actually very dangerous

[Antoine]

My preworkout stack is a gram of aspirin and 400 mg of caffeine haha

[Antoine]

Oh, and I've been mixing the powders in with these suckers:

http://www.powerblastenergy.com/images/product_img.jpg

Flavored caffeine powder + a bunch of extra energy enhancers. So now it even tastes better than powerdrive; Like an orange soda. Fucking ace.

awesome, i want fancy flasks too!

[Jujimufu]

awesome, i want fancy flasks too!

Dude I got like three dozen of those flasks. After I use the powerblast I tear off the labels and fill them with 6 grams of BCAA each. So I got them all in my car, gym bag, bed room, office, school bag... And I'm constantly popping this shit all day long. BCAAs are fucking kickin' ass at luxury high dosage!

[CakeNcream]

BCAA's are amazing, especially if your not eating

[Jujimufu]

BCAA's are amazing, especially if your not eating

They're amazing if you are eating too! :wink:
; And they're even more amazing the more you take.

[CakeNcream]

They're amazing if you are eating too! :wink:
; And they're even more amazing the more you take.
i stocked up on Xtend when nutraplanet was selling it for $35. i have enough to last a solid year of megadosing