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Jimnast
Dec-23-06, 11:04 AM
I train to increase my strength, so I use heavy weights and do low reps. However, will I max out on strength with my current size and need to change my training to increase some mass, or will the strength training increase my muscle mass aswell when my strength starts to max out for the current size of the muscle?

rock_ten
Dec-23-06, 12:42 PM
tell us more about your training? What is your idea of "low" reps?

CakeNcream
Dec-23-06, 12:44 PM
your muscles will get bigger

Jimnast
Dec-23-06, 12:53 PM
No more than 5 reps, about 7 being my absolute maximum, it's for squats, deadlifts, dips, pullups and chin ups.

rock_ten
Dec-23-06, 01:09 PM
more more more. Do you just go in and lift whatever? Any planned cycling of the load? Or are you able to progress linearly "just adding 5lbs a week" or whatever

Jimnast
Dec-23-06, 01:16 PM
Well my workout has a duration of 4 days, day 1 is upper body, day 2 legs and core, day 3 upper body, different exercises though, day 4 legs and core again. DAy 5 is rest then I start again. I increase the weight 4 kg's every 2 workouts. 4 is as small as I can go, because I don't have enough weights at home and for deadlifts, I'm running out of weights actually, gonna need to buy more. For the pullups/chinups and dips, I can increase 2 kg per 2 workouts cause, I don't have to even the load like on a bar. These are the only weighted exercises in my workouts. The rest is bodyweight, centered around gymnastic strength gains, such as ring work, planche training, hand balancing...etc.

compleks
Dec-23-06, 02:58 PM
How many sets? You can probably bulk up just by eating more.

Jimnast
Dec-24-06, 01:54 AM
About 2-3 sets no more. Well I just want to know is wether or not, I'll need to bulk a bit due to strength maxing out on the current size? Or will I just bulk naturally. As my goal is to keep the strength to size ratio at a minimum.

rock_ten
Dec-24-06, 02:19 AM
if you train for strength, and eat sufficiently, you should never reach a strength limit at an unchanging bodyweight. You will gain muscle to keep up with it.

If you want the highest strength:size ratio, keep a low volume density (short sets, long rests). Try something that Pavel suggests, maybe. http://forum.dragondoor.com/training is good. Add me on msn (address is in my profile) and I'll send you his e-books if you don't already have them.

Jimnast
Dec-24-06, 02:26 AM
if you train for strength, and eat sufficiently, you should never reach a strength limit at an unchanging bodyweight. You will gain muscle to keep up with it.

If you want the highest strength:size ratio, keep a low volume density (short sets, long rests). Try something that Pavel suggests, maybe. http://forum.dragondoor.com/training is good. Add me on msn (address is in my profile) and I'll send you his e-books if you don't already have them.

Cool, ok, I've got power to the people, that's how I formulated this current workout.

rock_ten
Dec-24-06, 02:27 AM
I will send you Beyond Bodybuilding - it owns

bobbyato
Dec-24-06, 02:24 PM
1 -4 rm builds only strength without size

i think 5-9 is size and strength

and 9 - 12 is size and abit of strength.

search rm or repitition maximum if you dont understand

chicanerous
Dec-24-06, 10:10 PM
1 -4 rm builds only strength without size

i think 5-9 is size and strength

and 9 - 12 is size and abit of strength.

search rm or repitition maximum if you dont understand
No. A rep range independent of volume, intensity, and tempo determines nothing.

Lobo
Dec-25-06, 12:04 AM
Yeah, what a load of oversimplified crap.

rock_ten
Dec-25-06, 02:26 AM
Yeah, what a load of oversimplified crap.