weed, marijuana, cannabis, maui maui, ganja, sticky, is it really that bad for you?!

[chorou]

hey,i dont smoke often at all, maybe like once a month, or twice a month, anyways i was wondering if its really as bad as people make it to be?! i mean i see some benefits from it, im not sayin its good for you, i obviously know theres some negative effects, but what do u guys think?! could a trickster, capoeiraista, student, athlete, etc smoke week, and still maintain a healthy, itellegent life?!

i tihnk weed could be fun, and i personally like it, but i dont abuse it, i dont look to get "stoned" i look to have a good time, feel good, and let go of all the stress. i could have a good time without it , but it always makes it funneR:)


anyways what are u peoples opinions?! lol

[Khao]

Personnally I don't see any bad effects of consommation. I smoke weed about as often as you, few times a months just to relax, and have fun with my friends. I am still one of the brightest in most of my classes so on the brain, I see no bad effects. I still have the best cardio and endurence of all my friends, I'm still allergic to cigarettes :dead: (my lungs really go bad when I happen to breath cigarette smoke near a smoker) so my lungs aren't all dirty (at least I think..)

The only bad effect I see is gaining weight because I eat A LOT, and I mean a FUCKING LOT when I'm high.

[Andy Longcat]

hey,i dont smoke often at all, maybe like once a month, or twice a month, anyways i was wondering if its really as bad as people make it to be?! i mean i see some benefits from it, im not sayin its good for you, i obviously know theres some negative effects, but what do u guys think?! could a trickster, capoeiraista, student, athlete, etc smoke week, and still maintain a healthy, itellegent life?!

i tihnk weed could be fun, and i personally like it, but i dont abuse it, i dont look to get "stoned" i look to have a good time, feel good, and let go of all the stress. i could have a good time without it , but it always makes it funneR:)


anyways what are u peoples opinions?! lol

Yo well... I smoke weed regularly, and I've yet to see a bad side effect :/

I'm a trickster, capoeirista, and a student, and I still manage to mantain a healthy, intelligent life. It doesn't consume me to the point of doing absolutely nothing BUT smoking. It's all about moderation, and not smoking bunk shit.

Because lets face it, that WILL fuck you up badly. I mean, you have to smoke like 5 bowls to get high, thus fucking with your lungs more.

[AJCN]

I know a many capoeira masters smoke weed and there old and amazing, I used to in high school but gave it up now have more stamina and arn't out of breathe all the time. I still think it's terrible hence the one star which equals terrible I gave the thread but still I remeber being high is fun shit, having the munchies and laughing at the simposn for ages just becuase there yellow.

In moderation is ok i guess but I'd rather have none.

[Dave C]

www.norml.com

some might call me a pothead

A comprehensive 1999 study commissioned by the federal drug czar at the time, Barry McCaffery concluded marijuana was a "viable and effective medicine ... moderately well-suited for chemotherapy-induced nausea, AIDS wasting, severe pain, and other conditions." A 2004 study showed it blocks gamma herpes; a 2005 study showed it slows hardening of the arteries; a 2006 UCLA study concluded marijuana isn't linked to lung cancer and may inhibit tumor growth. A 2006 Ohio State University study indicated it may stave off Alzheimer's. Other pharmaceutical medicines may be more effective than marijuana in certain applications, but marijuana has an inherent advantage: It's nontoxic.

[TKD_Andy]

weed is good :good:

[Rahf]

Correct me if I'm wrong but THC (which is the stuff that makes you high in a pot.) does apparently stay in your system for a period of roughly 2-3 months.
What I'm saying is it deteroriates veeery slowly during this time compared to nicotine which is dumped out of your system after 24-48 hours.

This info is just what I've heard from word of mouth from pot smokers across the globe.

I don't smoke marijuana, but I'll say that as long as it does not turn into an addiction (several joints per week in my book.) it should be fine. Just remember that when you do smoke a joint it is normally prepped with normal tobacco as well which adds to the destruction of your body!!

[chorou]

alright this is my opinion, i think its good in moderation, its sooo much fun, it lets u have a good time when u might be in a difficult time in ur life.

weed doesnt mess up ur body as much as tobacco, its not as addicting, it has never killed anyone in history, which means no reports of death, also no reports of lung cancer caused by mariujana...i didnt want to go off and sound like a stnoer cuz im not thats why i put it in the best way for people to reply:) peace.

[Honken]

From what I've learned, it's pretty much ok unless you get addicted to it. Take a look at famous stoners from the past and look how they are today (unless they died of course, Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley are some good examples).

The only famous stoner that still lives today that I know of is Sly Stone (from Sly and The Family Stone). You should of seen him at the Grammy's. He can't walk upright anymore and is in constant pain.

But still, he's one of the best musiccomposer and writer ever IMO.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM_Pf7JhKWo
(he's so high that he forget the interview, just watch the rest)

Too bad that the clip of him having a debate with Muhammad Ali hasn't been uploaded... damn that was funny.

[Andy Longcat]

From what I've learned, it's pretty much ok unless you get addicted to it. Take a look at famous stoners from the past and look how they are today (unless they died of course, Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley are some good examples).

The only famous stoner that still lives today that I know of is Sly Stone (from Sly and The Family Stone). You should of seen him at the Grammy's. He can't walk upright anymore and is in constant pain.

But still, he's one of the best musiccomposer and writer ever IMO.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM_Pf7JhKWo
(he's so high that he forget the interview, just watch the rest)

Too bad that the clip of him having a debate with Muhammad Ali hasn't been uploaded... damn that was funny.



Are you saying that weed fucked up the way he walks and adds to his pain? if so, you're terribly ignorant in the topic of cannabis.

[AJCN]

In the UK a year back or so this old women in her 80's got sent to jail for a few months. She needed weed for her illness which was ok but she got done for growing the stuff and selling it to kids. she must be out by now.

[Honken]

Are you saying that weed fucked up the way he walks and adds to his pain? if so, you're terribly ignorant in the topic of cannabis.

I might be, I only know what they teach us in school. And according to his biography, he's in this state because of skeletal cancer that his doctor diagnosed was caused by his addiction.

Cannabis isn't that common here in Sweden in comparison to Canada or the US, most people have tried it but only a few people stick with it.

[Andy Longcat]

I might be, I only know what they teach us in school. And according to his biography, he's in this state because of skeletal cancer that his doctor diagnosed was caused by his addiction.

Cannabis isn't that common here in Sweden in comparison to Canada or the US, most people have tried it but only a few people stick with it.



but you see, you can't get addicted to weed. There are no chemicals in it that make you become addicted to it. If you can become addicted to weed, you can become addicted to playing with tape. Or oragami.

It's just something you enjoy doing, like tricking. I'd have to read up more on that skeletal cancer shit he's got going on, becuase that sounds hella fishy.

[Rahf]

I might be, I only know what they teach us in school. And according to his biography, he's in this state because of skeletal cancer that his doctor diagnosed was caused by his addiction.

Cannabis isn't that common here in Sweden in comparison to Canada or the US, most people have tried it but only a few people stick with it.

Au contraire Gaston! (Or however it's spelled.)
I reckon the reason you don't see much weed around is because you don't socialize with those kinds of people. It is pretty common here, but as you say Canada and the US dwarf us by a mile.

Canadians are potheads, especially westcoast backpackers :cool:

[chorou]

i never knew bruce lee smoked weed! thats crazy!!!
theres a lot to benefit from canabis, "respect it and itll respect u", disregarding what it does to your lungs/ short term memory , it is an amazing benefitial drug, which is used and unfortunatly abused all over the world.
idk why its illeagal! cigerettes and alcohol, are wayyyy worse and cause wayyy more deaths. in my opinion they should leagalize it, im not sayin i want people to smoke, im saying that should be an option, without paranoia of getting caught and charged, it is your body afterall and it should be your choice, if its good or bad, etc.

[chorou]

let me rephrase part of that when i said cigarettes and alcohol cause way more deaths, i mean weed never killed anybody, while more than half of the deaths caused on the roads is by drunk drivers, and a quarter million people die every year from cigarette smokin ( not to menchine second hand smoke).
why marijuana?

[Celine23]

From what I've learned, it's pretty much ok unless you get addicted to it. Take a look at famous stoners from the past and look how they are today (unless they died of course, Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley are some good examples).

The only famous stoner that still lives today that I know of is Sly Stone (from Sly and The Family Stone). You should of seen him at the Grammy's. He can't walk upright anymore and is in constant pain.

But still, he's one of the best musiccomposer and writer ever IMO.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM_Pf7JhKWo
(he's so high that he forget the interview, just watch the rest)

Too bad that the clip of him having a debate with Muhammad Ali hasn't been uploaded... damn that was funny.


omg..

Bob Marley: In July 1977, Marley was found to have malignant melanoma in a football wound on his right hallux (big toe). Marley refused amputation, citing worries that the operation would affect his dancing, as well as the Rastafari belief that the body must be "whole". The cancer spread to Marley's brain, lungs, liver, and stomach following his refusal of treatment.

Jimi Hendrix: In the early morning hours of 18 September 1970, Jimi Hendrix was found dead in the basement flat of the Samarkand Hotel at 22 Lansdowne Crescent in London. Hendrix died amid circumstances which have never been fully explained. ....likely died in bed after drinking wine and taking nine Vesperax sleeping pills, then asphyxiating on his own vomit....

Bruce Lee: You are jocking right? I dont think that Bruce was addicted to Ganja. Bruce Lee's death was officially attributed to cerebral edema.

Every Culture has its 2 legal Drugs. Because people need them. But weed is so much better than Alcohol or Nicotin. No one ever died because of marijuana. But a lot died because of Alcohol. Smoking weed 3-4 times a Month does nothing harmful to you.

[Celine23]

Correct me if I'm wrong but THC (which is the stuff that makes you high in a pot.) does apparently stay in your system for a period of roughly 2-3 months.
What I'm saying is it deteroriates veeery slowly during this time compared to nicotine which is dumped out of your system after 24-48 hours.

This info is just what I've heard from word of mouth from pot smokers across the globe.

I don't smoke marijuana, but I'll say that as long as it does not turn into an addiction (several joints per week in my book.) it should be fine. Just remember that when you do smoke a joint it is normally prepped with normal tobacco as well which adds to the destruction of your body!!

Because of the good lipophilicity of THC it depsoits in your adipose tissue. It is detectable in your urine for 1 month if you smoke weed only once or twice a month. If you are a serious smoker then its detectable for 2-3 Months. But this does not mean that you are addicted to marijuana for 1-3 Months till everything is out of your Body.

[Andy Longcat]

Because of the good lipophilicity of THC it depsoits in your adipose tissue. It is detectable in your urine for 1 month if you smoke weed only once or twice a month. If you are a serious smoker then its detectable for 2-3 Months. But this does not mean that you are addicted to marijuana for 1-3 Months till everything is out of your Body.

Not really. The owner of a headshop here told me that it's only detectable if thre's a THC buildup in your body (meaning if you smoke several times a week, serveral bowls) You can drop clean piss in a test with only days notice if you know how to do it, even if you indulge youself in cannabis, but I'm not about to discuss the various ways to go about this on the forum.

[keri]

Weed is harmless. The only death that ever occured involving marijuana was with a monkey in a test. The monkey's glass chamber he was in was filled with smoke from marijuana. The reason the monkey died was because it was so full of smoke it didn't have any oxygen to breathe. He didn't die of anything chemically related in the plant.
Also, THC does stay in your system for a month/few months (depending on how much you smoke it) but it does nothing to your system. The Hindus smoke weed and have been for thousands of years. Nothing has even been found wrong with it in their culture.
Smoking weed has never been linked to cancer and has scientifically been proven that it cannot cause cancer.
And as for smoking being unhealthy for the lungs, I remember smoking like 5 bowls one time and the next day playing football. I literally out-ran and tackled kids that actually played football. Weed is a perfectly safe recreational activity and doesn't affect your health for any other activities.

[Celine23]

Not really. The owner of a headshop here told me that it's only detectable if thre's a THC buildup in your body (meaning if you smoke several times a week, serveral bowls) You can drop clean piss in a test with only days notice if you know how to do it, even if you indulge youself in cannabis, but I'm not about to discuss the various ways to go about this on the forum.

Sorry thats not true. Cause it got detected when i had to make a drug test. And i only smoked one joint the whole month before the test. And no marijuana the three months before. All i said is how it is detectable under normal conditions. There are several ways i know but i never talked about that.

[Niko]

Wheres neghlucky?

[Fanya]

It's gonna harm you if you think it will, otherwise happy smoking

[Bentinho]

bruce lee smoked weed, think about it, he was a young guy in the 60's-70's. some of your parents probably smoked it back then too. you'd be surprised who you know that did it back then.

jimi hendrix, as awesome as he is/was, did a lot more drugs than just weed.

bob marley died of cancer, not weed. smoking is part of his religion.

sly stone can barely stand up straight and walk because he's old as hell. plus im sure he's done a lot more drugs than just weed.

personally, i dont smoke it but i know more than a few people that do and they are just fine and i know a few that are/were addicts but really they were personality types that if it wasnt weed it would be something else (food, alcohol, sex, etc). i do think US gov't laws/studies/reports on it are biased and untruthful.

[Dedraic]

Sorry thats not true. Cause it got detected when i had to make a drug test. And i only smoked one joint the whole month before the test. And no marijuana the three months before. All i said is how it is detectable under normal conditions. There are several ways i know but i never talked about that.

THC clears out of the average person's system(at least as detected by urine analysis) in two to three days. Habitual use can take up to three months to clear out.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml

Edit: Marijuana, as with most psychedelics, is not physically addicting. It can be mentally addicting, and that's where you get the dumbfuck deadbeat stoners.

[Iron Fist]

I smoke about once or twice a week, but still teach karate and do crazy ass breaking demonstrations. Things like weed will only control you and make things worse if you let them.

[DeeJay]

But what about memory loss?!

[Starter Kit]

Not really. The owner of a headshop here told me that it's only detectable if thre's a THC buildup in your body (meaning if you smoke several times a week, serveral bowls) You can drop clean piss in a test with only days notice if you know how to do it, even if you indulge youself in cannabis, but I'm not about to discuss the various ways to go about this on the forum.

Please expound upon that, I have a drug test for the marines in a little while and I'm not sure if I'm going to beat it, although I have a low body fat and high metabolism on my side. The things I was considering were taking four aspirin, large amounts of water, B-vitamins for coloring and creatine so that the levels are normal once I piss.

[DeeJay]

Start drinking a shitload of water now I guess.

[TKD_Andy]

generally i'd say three weeks until its completely out of your system.

my mate who was a colossal stoner wanted to give blood, and he asked them how long it stayed in your system and they told him to not smoke for three weeks, then it'd be completely out.

but meh, thats blood, not piss

[Starter Kit]

Start drinking a shitload of water now I guess.

It's fat-soluble, water isn't going to help unless I drink it before to dilute my urine.

[Andy Longcat]

It's fat-soluble, water isn't going to help unless I drink it before to dilute my urine.

damn, if it's for the marines, iuno...

I would just recommend STOP because they don't fuck around with that, but if you must get it out of your system, take some niacin (which you can get at GMC for about $10) and drink a shitload of water. You're gonna be in hell for about 3 days while you're taking the niacin, but it helps flush out your system.

[Starter Kit]

Oh God, haha, will that really work? I know it's supposed to aid in the removal of toxic and harmful chemicals but does your body consider THC metabolites toxic? I think it won't hurt to try and my best bet would be to eat a lot and workout but I feel like a fucking moron for smoking now when I had a responsibility.

[Andy Longcat]

It works, I'll update it later when I get home with how many caplets:water you should take for a couple of days, but believe me, it works.

[Starter Kit]

Alright, thanks a lot for the help, if I fail this my job is going to be taken away and I'm afraid they'll ship me to Iraq. For the type of niacin I should purchase should it be niacin or niacinamide? Again I really appreciate this as I've been doing a bit of research and I keep coming up with several conflicting view points.

[Andy Longcat]

Alright, thanks a lot for the help, if I fail this my job is going to be taken away and I'm afraid they'll ship me to Iraq. For the type of niacin I should purchase should it be niacin or niacinamide? Again I really appreciate this as I've been doing a bit of research and I keep coming up with several conflicting view points.

wait, are you a Marine already?

[Starter Kit]

No, I'm shipping off for boot camp in 6 days, but I have my job and everything lined up already.

[Andy Longcat]

well, Semper Fi!

Good luck man, you're gonna get fucking owned!

[Starter Kit]

Fucking owned in what way? haha the only thing I'm really worried about is this drug test.

[Spacey]

From what I've learned, it's pretty much ok unless you get addicted to it. Take a look at famous stoners from the past and look how they are today (unless they died of course, Bruce Lee, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley are some good examples).

The only famous stoner that still lives today that I know of is Sly Stone (from Sly and The Family Stone). You should of seen him at the Grammy's. He can't walk upright anymore and is in constant pain.

But still, he's one of the best musiccomposer and writer ever IMO.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM_Pf7JhKWo
(he's so high that he forget the interview, just watch the rest)

Too bad that the clip of him having a debate with Muhammad Ali hasn't been uploaded... damn that was funny.

Bruce Lee was a pothead? Any citation for that?

[Andy Longcat]

Fucking owned in what way? haha the only thing I'm really worried about is this drug test.

Fucking owned by the drill instructors! haha good luck man

[Starter Kit]

Haha thanks. I'm still skeptical about the niacin though is there anymore detail you could go into, or did you mean when you posted earlier that you would later?

[Andy Longcat]

Read, be infomed:

http://forum.grasscity.com/seasoned-tokers/36557-offical-how-pass-dt.html?highlight=passing+drug+test

[Starter Kit]

If we weren't seperated by a computer screen I'd give you a thank you kiss haha.

[chorou]

weed, does mess with ur memory i believe, but ive had several grand nights smokin a joint or two, absoulutly amazingly fun times, which are worth livin for:)

think about it people prepare themselfs all there lifes for the worse, for the future, for being seccessful, they miss out on a lot of their life just preparing themselfs, they dont live for the moment, from that point of view i think weed is great, smoke weed, have a great time, laghf with ur freinds, go for a walk, u kno...its fun.

shrooms are also pretty tight:)
(bring on the negativity, and judgemental types of people)

[Grenkutzu]

On the topic of addiction: I have a friend that lights up all the time. He said that when he doesn't have any pot, he just WANTS to get high, and said it was comparable of a person that lent their favorite videogame to a friend, and they can't play it anymore. It's not like being addicted to anything, it's like wanting to do a favorite hobby, or just do something you like to do. I don't smoke, it's not for me, but I don't see any problem with anybody else doing it, it won't hurt you.

[brandon904]

getting high and tricking = best.

you just can't get unmotivated. STAY MOTIVATED or you'll smoke and sit around playing guitar hero all day and shit and that's no good.

[Trax]

Ok, I dunno if someone has mentioned it on this thread yet, but lets just make it clear:

if you have not smoked marijuana and gotten high off it then you don't have shit to say on this thread, all you can do is sit back like a good little girl and listen to the big dawgs talk, you may ask questions, but do not give advice on its effects, on smoking it, on rolling it, smelling it, cutting it etc. and that also means don't post any stupid fuckin links to stupid fuckin websites that discuss either the good side or the bad side of marijuana. Don't talk about its addictive properties (since there are non) and don't give any advice about who you think would be a pothead.

So, once again, if you have never gotten high, shut the fuck up, smoke a joint and then maybe you'll have something interesting to say.

P.S. IF YOU HAVE NEVER SMOKED OR GOTTEN HIGH YOU HAVE NO FUCKIN BUSSINESS SAYIN SHIT LIKE "IT'S NOT FOR ME" STFU AND TRY IT FIRST, THEN YOU CAN SAY THAT "It's not for me". NOTE, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO HARDCORE DRUGS i.e. heroin, coke, crack etc.
NOTE: MARIJUANA IS NOT A DRUG !

<3 Dave C, can't wait to blaze up again with ya !

[TKD_Andy]

lol oh man, i'd love to get caned with you and Dave C

[Rianu]

I think one of the primary reasons they haven't legalized marijuana for commercial use is because teens, and people in general for that matter would be lighting up joints close to as often as they light up a cigarette. That would cause tremendous issues at school with falling grades, lower work ethic, etc. Plus in the business world it would cause some calamity in that it would lower production and cause other problems in the work place.

I myself have no problem with people smokin the stuff and i have no doubt to the benefits (or rather, lack of consequence) to doing so. But from a big picture perspective that's probably the reasoning behind the illegalization of marijuana. and no... illegalization isn't a word.

[alex]

I think one of the primary reasons they haven't legalized marijuana for commercial use is because teens, and people in general for that matter would be lighting up joints close to as often as they light up a cigarette. That would cause tremendous issues at school with falling grades, lower work ethic, etc. Plus in the business world it would cause some calamity in that it would lower production and cause other problems in the work place.

I myself have no problem with people smokin the stuff and i have no doubt to the benefits (or rather, lack of consequence) to doing so. But from a big picture perspective that's probably the reasoning behind the illegalization of marijuana. and no... illegalization isn't a word.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3653114296815352489&q=penn+teller+war+on+drugs

[Spacey]

Ok, I dunno if someone has mentioned it on this thread yet, but lets just make it clear:

if you have not smoked marijuana and gotten high off it then you don't have shit to say on this thread, all you can do is sit back like a good little girl and listen to the big dawgs talk, you may ask questions, but do not give advice on its effects, on smoking it, on rolling it, smelling it, cutting it etc. and that also means don't post any stupid fuckin links to stupid fuckin websites that discuss either the good side or the bad side of marijuana. Don't talk about its addictive properties (since there are non) and don't give any advice about who you think would be a pothead.

So, once again, if you have never gotten high, shut the fuck up, smoke a joint and then maybe you'll have something interesting to say.

P.S. IF YOU HAVE NEVER SMOKED OR GOTTEN HIGH YOU HAVE NO FUCKIN BUSSINESS SAYIN SHIT LIKE "IT'S NOT FOR ME" STFU AND TRY IT FIRST, THEN YOU CAN SAY THAT "It's not for me". NOTE, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO HARDCORE DRUGS i.e. heroin, coke, crack etc.
NOTE: MARIJUANA IS NOT A DRUG !

<3 Dave C, can't wait to blaze up again with ya !

Sorry if this offends you but your logic flaws. I mean in your world you would actually have to die by death penalty to even comment on it.

[AJCN]

good video alex!

[TKD_Andy]

lmao that video is fantastic.

[chorou]

hahaha DAVE C!! my man lol ur absoulutly right, u put it a bit harsh for the people, but thats what they need, there so narrow minded and influenced from t.v and anti drug commercials, that they just diss it without givin it a try. anyone that decided he doesnt like it b4 tryin it is pretty stupid, anyone that thinks its not for him b4 tryin it is pretty dumb too...

anyone who tryed it and didnt get high, and thought he knew all about it!! u should get high first lol. ive got stoned outta my mind the last 7-8 times a smoked, i never got that high, i top myself everytime, b4 that i only had a buzz feeling and a laghfin feelin, but until u get BLAZED u dont kno how fun and exciting it is:)

TRY IT! USE IT! DONT ABUSE IT!

[Dave C]

lol oh man, i'd love to get caned with you and Dave C

everyone should get high with me. for those who have done it, it's always an experience to remember (no matter how fuzzy the memory may be)

[Starter Kit]

Sorry if this offends you but your logic flaws. I mean in your world you would actually have to die by death penalty to even comment on it.

I see what you're trying to say but you can't correlate a plant with death you nimrod.

[Trax]

well put starter...oh and spacey, my logic is not flawed, your understanding of my logic is what's flawed

P.S. Dave C pass me a joint mang

[mattt]

I love dope, dope loves me
Im high til I D-I-E
With a big bag of bud, and a bag of tooty too
I know that you get high too

[Rahf]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3653114296815352489&q=penn+teller+war+on+drugs

Haha I seriously want to punch 'Wiener' in the face.. Such a stubborn and completely convinced person :tongue: .

[FatTricks]

Wanna pass a drug test from marijuana?
2 aspirins the night before, 2 the morning of.
Could even be generic brands.
END of story.

Drug test failure evasion tactics brought to you by the US ARMY.

Congratulations on passing the test!

Oh, and if you find that the military isn't for you, you can STILL get out. Honorly discharge, NO questions asked, packin your bags in 15 minutes.

Tell them you're a homosexual. Go ahead and laugh...it's true. You won't have to prove it. They'll send you back to your post where you'll be promptly relieved and sent packin.
Happy trails.

[Starter Kit]

I had already planned on the aspirin trick as I read that it's non-detectable but can I have a reference for breaking the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy?

[FatTricks]

I'm not supposed to post cuz I'll get crucified again. I guess I'll have to be a mindless tool.

REFERENCE: It's hush-hush so I don't know if you'll find any info substanciating my claim. A good friend of mine was in the Navy. He hated it with a passion. So one day...he decided to tell his commanding officers that he was gay. Right after he told them...they sent him back to his post, and within 15 minutes someone came to relieve him of his duties. He was 2.5 years into his 6 year service contract. Came home with an HONORLY DISCHARGE.

The aspirin i learned from my friend who just got back from the AIR FORCE. His uncle is a SERGENT in the ARMY who administered the drug tests and told him about it. He used to smoke weed while in the service. ASPIRIN works like a charm.

I respect and appreciate your decision to defend our country. Thank you. Good luck and GOD bless.

[Starter Kit]

Thanks a lot, that would make some sense to me as I don't think they could punish you for being gay but I would think there would be repercussions from breaking that policy.

[FatTricks]

My friend didn't tell me bout 'em......if there were any.
You'll find out for real if the need ever arises....although I hope you like the service more than HE did.

[Andy Longcat]

www.weedfarmer.com (http://www.weedfarmer.com)

if any one needs seeds fuck buying $60+ seeds this site sels them for $20 for a pack of ten no credit card required just post cash i did it and got the seeds within a week all of them germinated


it is v. good

the end

eh... are they real pot seeds? are they scheduled?

[Andy Longcat]

FUCKING ACE!

[mattt]

Now all these people wanna smoke some weed with Twiztid
And see if we really smoke that's all that's listed
From bubblegum to super skunk, 1 to 5
I even smoked a little bit of some shit they called the beehive
I been to Europe and made Amsterdam cry
Cause me and Madrox straight smoked them hoes dry

[Rahf]

Now all these people wanna smoke some weed with Twiztid
And see if we really smoke that's all that's listed
From bubblegum to super skunk, 1 to 5
I even smoked a little bit of some shit they called the beehive
I been to Europe and made Amsterdam cry
Cause me and Madrox straight smoked them hoes dry

As far as I know, nobody smokes Amsterdam dry :tongue:
Down in Australia they had Hydro, at least that was the most popular type that people bought in Nimbin.

[Andy Longcat]

EUGH


Anything on Psychopathic Records is fag.

FUCK ICP AND THAT JUGGALO SCUM

[mattt]

As far as I know, nobody smokes Amsterdam dry :tongue:
Down in Australia they had Hydro, at least that was the most popular type that people bought in Nimbin.

Haha sweet, I'm going to Nimbin in May for the Mardi Grass festival.

I plan to enter the joint rolling, bong throwing and the iron-person contests.

Edit: I had hydro about a week ago, good shit.

[mattt]

EUGH


Anything on Psychopathic Records is fag.

FUCK ICP AND THAT JUGGALO SCUM

The only person on this board that I know would disagree with that, apart from me is Triso. At least I'm not alone in thinking it though.

[Iron Fist]

www.weedfarmer.com (http://www.weedfarmer.com)

if any one needs seeds fuck buying $60+ seeds this site sels them for $20 for a pack of ten no credit card required just post cash i did it and got the seeds within a week all of them germinated


it is v. good

the end

Thank you for this website, young one!

[chorou]

i wish i could go to amsterdam, for shrooms more than weed:)


also i wanted to ask u guyz, have u ever seen shit while high?! did u ever get blazed as hell and start like seein stiff "breathe"like a medium- low shrooms trip?!

lol this one time i got super blazed for 5 hrs of one blunt me and my freind shared, and i seriouisly didnt kno what the fuck i was doin the whole time, i was blasted out of this world, i couldnt understand any languages, and everthing seemed odd and funny to me hahaha it was tiggght!

[Carl]

Just remember that when you do smoke a joint it is normally prepped with normal tobacco as well which adds to the destruction of your body!!
What in the fuck are you talking about? That's complete bullshit.

Chorou, it's possible the pot was laced with something. Joints dipped in liquid ecstacy will make you hallucinate, and I've actually heard of a dealer who puts shrooms in his joints as well.

[Starter Kit]

I don't understand the whole concept behind lacing drugs, wouldn't that just be more of a hassle for the dealer then anything else?

[Rahf]

What in the fuck are you talking about? That's complete bullshit.

Chorou, it's possible the pot was laced with something. Joints dipped in liquid ecstacy will make you hallucinate, and I've actually heard of a dealer who puts shrooms in his joints as well.

Well hey don't ask me but everytime I've seen someone roll a joint they usually crack a cigarette and pour the tobacco into that. And yes I have smoked pot. Just for the record.

[Starter Kit]

Around here they call joints with tobacco in them a spliff.

[TKD_Andy]

Well hey don't ask me but everytime I've seen someone roll a joint they usually crack a cigarette and pour the tobacco into that.

EUGH!

these kinda joints are fucking horrible.

just use proper rolling tobacco.

[chorou]

Chorou, it's possible the pot was laced with something. Joints dipped in liquid ecstacy will make you hallucinate, and I've actually heard of a dealer who puts shrooms in his joints as well.

smoking shrooms doesnt work, it never will work, before u argue with me look it up, the active chemical in a psychadelic mushroom dies if its put in high temp.

[Rahf]

One major downside of smoking a joint would be the fact that it messes with your voice (does not apply to everyone for some weird reason).

Some people get this nice extremely raspy voice if they've been smoking a pot while others are barely noticeable, anyone else thought about it?
Not to say that it is long-term in any way but if you have to preserve your voice for some reason (singer or.. radio DJ whatever.) you might lay off the pot that day.

[Andy Longcat]

I just sound slooooow haha

[not2serious]

Bruce didn't smoke it, he ate it. Which makes perfect sense considering how dedicated he was to his training.

I recommend 1 gram of sinsemilla bud per serving !

[Less than Dan]

I would like to extend that I think Trax is a arrogant and pompus tard. Good luck being a cashier for the rest of your life.

LOLOLOLOL WEED IS NO DRUG. IT COOKIE TIMNE NOWS!!!

[pyrolee]

Munchies = more protein

[Less than Dan]

Munchies = more protein

Munchies = Stretch marks on your ass.

[pyrolee]

Munchies = Stretch marks on your ass.Yeah if you eat bad food.

[chorou]

hey i have about 2.5 grams of pretty good weed, i wanna try eatin it and gettin some crazy effects, what should i do with it? (eating it just like that doesnt work i dont think, u needa like cook it or make tea or somethin and idk what to do)

[DeeJay]

wait for Dave C to post.

[Dave C]

2.5 isn't a whole lot. It would probably be better used smoking or vaporizing.

I usually reserve cooking for bulk amounts since it usually takes a little more to get good effects

[chorou]

gotcha, thats what i was thinkin but could u like gimme an idea on how much to cook, and how to cook it?

[TKD_Andy]

melt some butter in a frying pan, as soon as its all melted reduce the heat down so it just simmers, then whack the weed in and mix it around, then do w/e u want with it.

Pancakes would be amazing.

[Steve]

Hello guys I'm open-minded and cannabis is not bad for you. See you in next week's marijuana thread!

[Dave C]

andy has the right idea. THC is fat-soluble so you want to incorporate it with something that has a decent amount of fat content to absorb the THC. Relatively low-temp cooking would be recommended since THC has a lower combustion point than a lot of other things (hence why vaporizers work)

also, congratulations Steve. It does seem like there's a lot more pothead members than there used to be...

[Starter Kit]

Steve you better make it into the history books.

[Steve]

I will try, but what should I do to get in?

[Dave C]

MASSACRE

worked for hitler

[Steve]

Haha it has to be more than like 100 people

[Starter Kit]

I'm not really sure what you could do but if there were ever an "Overman" or "Knight of Faith" or any such philosophical thing as that you would be it, from the little I've observed through a random internet forum haha.

[Steve]

I'm not really sure what you could do but if there were ever an "Overman" or "Knight of Faith" or any such philosophical thing as that you would be it, from the little I've observed through a random internet forum haha.

Ho ho! All in good time, Starter Kit, all in good time.

[Grenkutzu]

I will try, but what should I do to get in?

Just be yourself.

[Ashtar]

You can survive drugs, but why risk becoming addicted if you're weaker than you thought you were. What can they do that's good for you that exercise can't?

[Andy Longcat]

You can survive drugs, but why risk becoming addicted if you're weaker than you thought you were. What can they do that's good for you that exercise can't?

GAH! READ THE FUCKING THREAD

[Dave C]

What can they [drugs] do that's good for you that exercise can't?

Conciousness expansion?

Until you know what blue tastes like, I don't wanna hear it

[chorou]

weed could bring on happiness and releif anytime, workin out cant!!!

weed makes u feel good, weed is ur freind, weed is healthy, weed= life, weed equals protien, weed is a solution to all ur problems, get ur weed today, a g for 15 2 g's for 25, feel great asap, weed is ur bible!

[rock_ten]

SWIM smoked weed for the first time yesterday. It hurt his gay weak throat badly. One hit fucked him up though, it was just like the very first stages of a trip, before you're too far gone to not be scared. Time went lumpy, totally confused, etc. SWIM's friend had 3 his, passed out, hit their head, and was having a seisure for a few seconds. It was tense.

[jamesp]

the only way pot is going to damage you is if someone drops a 2 kilo block of hash on your head.

[rock_ten]

I have a research project involving cannabinoid effects on neurons. In reading some relevant papers, I see that infact cannabinoids have extensive and immidiate effects on neuron morphology. Lower brain mass is observed in adults that started smoking weed at a young age, too.

I also just read one about interfering with sleep depth and next-day alertness etc.

If anyone want's the pdf's, add me on msn (See my profile)

[Fanya]

I have a research project involving cannabinoid effects on neurons. In reading some relevant papers, I see that infact cannabinoids have extensive and immidiate effects on neuron morphology. Lower brain mass is observed in adults that started smoking weed at a young age, too.

I also just read one about interfering with sleep depth and next-day alertness etc.

If anyone want's the pdf's, add me on msn (See my profile)

I see that more as really stupid people smoking grass as kids instead of weed causing yous brain to shrink.

As for the other stuff you said, well yeah! It's weed! People don't smoke it to help them concentrate. Depending on whether you smoke indica or sativa, you can definitely have sleep issues.

[Andy Longcat]

Sativa strains are the best :D

yes

[Emuro]

...if blue is just one of the aspects of light, which has no taste, how can blue have a taste? Unless i am missing something somewhere it cannot.

now i dont mean to be a dick here, i dont smoke and i dont intend to simply because as a kid i told myself i wouldnt, but frankly i really dont see the big deal with it anymore. i know stoners who are total fuckups but i also know stoners who do just fine, more the former then the latter, but its not like i know a good percentage of stoners. as people grow up and experience more of life they quickly realize how full of shit everyone is, particularly politicians, and grow more liberal...unless they're just batshit insane...

i dont know what the hell im trying to get at here...i like the site though...:eh:

[Rahf]

...if blue is just one of the aspects of light, which has no taste, how can blue have a taste? Unless i am missing something somewhere it cannot.

now i dont mean to be a dick here, i dont smoke and i dont intend to simply because as a kid i told myself i wouldnt, but frankly i really dont see the big deal with it anymore. i know stoners who are total fuckups but i also know stoners who do just fine, more the former then the latter, but its not like i know a good percentage of stoners. as people grow up and experience more of life they quickly realize how full of shit everyone is, particularly politicians, and grow more liberal...unless they're just batshit insane...

i dont know what the hell im trying to get at here...i like the site though...:eh:

The last paragraph is pretty simple to answer. You did a Swartz.
Meaning you wrote whatever was in your head without really thinking it through and now you're sitting there reflecting on what the hell you wrote. This usually ends up with you editing some tidbits of the post.

And stoner or no stoner, I don't give a damn because they're both fine. Smoking it once or twice is NOT going to hurt you kids, and you're not gonna go addicted either.

Stop reviving dead threads!

[Karlnold]

I probably only "toke" it once a year or something... But I enjoy it when I do it...


And about celebs toking it, don't forget Arnold was a little of a stoner...

[Benji]

I have fun with ganja on the weekends. Hell, I'm on it a little now. But it is not that bad if you set limitations for yourself such as not during school, not spending X amount of money on it, etc. etc. With limitations, it becomes easy to toke safely and not become a pothead.

[Dave C]

...if blue is just one of the aspects of light, which has no taste, how can blue have a taste? Unless i am missing something somewhere it cannot.

you are missing something. wasn't that the point?

Those on LSD may hear mathematics, taste colors or see music. The user can turn inward and explore vast areas of consciousness which are hardly mapped. By not leaving the room, journeys into other realms are possible.

A common description of the LSD experience is one where the subject loses reality; is far removed from the external world and is generally out of it. This is a misconception. It is not true that the tripper is unaware of the real world. The truth is: LSD takes you so deeply INTO reality that normalcy seems distorted.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/LSD.htm

Among the psychological effects reported by LSD users is depersonalization, the separation from one's body, yet with the knowledge that the separated mind is observing the passing scene. A confused body image (the user cannot tell where his own body ends and the surroundings begin) also is common. A distorted perception of reality is also common. For example, the user's perception of colors, distance, shapes, and sizes is inconsistent and unreliable. In addition, the user may perceive absent objects and forms without substance. He may also taste colors or smell sounds, a mixing of the senses called synesthesia. Sounds, colors, and taste are all greatly enhanced, though they may constitute an unrealistic and constantly changing tableau.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2699/is_0004/ai_2699000490

such an interesting concept. seeing music is pretty nice.

[dogzer]

Everyone who smokes weed defends it with their lives. I'm yet to meet someone who smokes weed and his intelligence hasn't been reduced proportionaly to the amount of weed they've taken. Smoke too much weed and you'll see the effects. Same goes for everything, coffee, alcohol, mexican parties, an so on.

[Hapkidoka]

I'm yet to meet someone who smokes weed and his intelligence hasn't been reduced proportionaly to the amount of weed they've taken.

Hi Dogzer.
I'm Hap.

Nice to meet you.

[Andy Longcat]

Everyone who smokes weed defends it with their lives. I'm yet to meet someone who smokes weed and his intelligence hasn't been reduced proportionaly to the amount of weed they've taken. Smoke too much weed and you'll see the effects. Same goes for everything, coffee, alcohol, mexican parties, an so on.

Hi, I'm Fly.

I gratuaded Highschool with Honors, and will be attending the University of Sonora to major in Political Science, and minor in Economics. I didn't take my SATs because I quite simply don't give a shit about any American colleges, but scored a 97% in Math, and 98% on both writing and reading of the AIMS test (Arizona's Instrument for Measuring Standards).

I am an avid pot smoker.

[dogzer]

Hah, 98% is nothing, i got 100%. Intelligence isn't just math grades. The fact that you are trying to justify yourself only proves even further how pot smokers are really threatened when people tell them the facts about weed. Everyone has their vices man, even i do, the trick lays in admitting you need help.

[Andy Longcat]

Hah, 98% is nothing, i got 100%. Intelligence isn't just math grades. The fact that you are trying to justify yourself only proves even further how pot smokers are really threatened when people tell them the facts about weed. Everyone has their vices man, even i do, the trick lays in admitting you need help.

So you live in Arizona?

Hmm, well then, if you wouldn't mind me asking, what year did you take the AIMS?

and I want you to define "Intelligence" if you mean "street smarts" trust me, I have those too.

So what exactly are you getting at?

[Emuro]

The thing though is that you dont really know what blue tastes like because as said in your article "Sounds, colors, and taste are all greatly enhanced, though they may constitute an unrealistic and constantly changing tableau."

What does blue taste like? Like synesthesia experience 1 or synesthesia experience 2?

Just the same though that was a great post. Nice opening, and im rather interested in the whole concept of exploring the mind. I forget what it was but some church had this huge experiment with shrooms, i forget which kind it was (psilocybin i believe), wherein like 80-90% reported "Religious" experiences. Genuine view of a world beyond via tweaking with brain chemistry or just a hallucination being influenced by blind faith? I dunno.

[dogzer]

So you live in Arizona?

Hmm, well then, if you wouldn't mind me asking, what year did you take the AIMS?

and I want you to define "Intelligence" if you mean "street smarts" trust me, I have those too.

So what exactly are you getting at?

Well, i already said it. Intelligence isn't just math or aims. But that's just one thing, you don't know if abusing too much pot will affect you negatively later on. And again, you are making me repeat myself, the trick is admitting that you might be wrong, for your own good. All i'm saying is that the more that someone abuses pot the dumber they get, and here you are, not knowing what i'm getting at.

[Benji]

My brother smokes pot many times a week. He has a 4.0 GPA at James Madison University.

And I don't think anyone knows what you're getting at with this.

[compleks]

haha, this is stupid. Drugs effect different people in different ways.

Enough of this shit.

[snugglefunked]

www.norml.com

some might call me a pothead

ditto

[snugglefunked]

Well, i already said it. Intelligence isn't just math or aims. But that's just one thing, you don't know if abusing too much pot will affect you negatively later on. And again, you are making me repeat myself, the trick is admitting that you might be wrong, for your own good. All i'm saying is that the more that someone abuses pot the dumber they get, and here you are, not knowing what i'm getting at.

I smoke wayyyyyy more than the average pot smoker, yet I am still able to trick, work, learn, and function just as well, if not much better than the average person... Though I smoke the most pot, I am still the best, fastest, and hardest working person at my Starbucks, which has the heaviest traffic in Montgomery County, MD... I have also been smoking pot for almost 8 years now... Longer than I have been tricking, or anything of the sort, yet I have grown quite a bit as an individual... What we're telling you, first hand, is that you have been subjected to propaganda... There has yet to be a case of someone developing lung cancer from solely smoking marijuana, and the "proof" that marijuana damages brain cells has LONG been disproved... In fact, the opposite has been proven... So what we're saying is, open your mind, and learn for yourself... As Bruce Lee once said, "Believe only half of what you see, and none of what you hear".

PS. I taught MYSELF everything that I do well... AFTER I started smoking weed... In fact, I've noticed no negative side effects from pot in the 8 years I've been smoking it... I've only noticed myself becoming smarter, stronger, faster, and more attentive... Though that may not be from the pot, I definitely think that the growth of the person smoking pot depends entirely on the stimulation they subject themselves to, just like anyone else... If you sit on the couch, doing nothing but eating junk food and watching tv, of course you're not getting any smarter or healthier... However, if you exercise your body, your values, and your mind daily, you're obviously going to grow as a person...

[dogzer]

True, i might be wrong. People do react differently to recreational drugs. And maybe marijuana wont do me anything no matter how much i smoke it.

Are you sure you aren´t just trying to convince of something that *you* want to believe?
I mean, I don't care if you smoke marijuana. I'm just saying something logical: be mindful of what you consume(for your own good) i don't rrreally care what you do, you know? lol :D

Ps. what the hell? It's like i'm trying to take the fun away from you! Me, a mere mortal that doesn't even know the awesome effects of marijuana. :tongue: It's your journey man, you might die tomorrow, so what the hell, right? It's just that my philosophy is that you are not happier the more drugs you do, but the less drugs you need.

[Spacey]

Doing marjiuana regularely is neurondeath though.

[Wesker]

Any longterm habit is bad, no matter the substance. But occasional drug use rarely has any negative effects.

[mac]

bruce lee smoked weed?

[Rahf]

bruce lee smoked weed?

Yes.

[Spacey]

No I'm pretty sure it was cocaine you're thinking of, it was the only way he could train 20hrs a day.

[Rahf]

No I'm pretty sure it was cocaine you're thinking of, it was the only way he could train 20hrs a day.

I'll just sit back and wait until the MA forumites find this post. Allow me to prep my PWO shake while waiting.

[mattt]

but you see, you can't get addicted to weed. There are no chemicals in it that make you become addicted to it. If you can become addicted to weed, you can become addicted to playing with tape. Or oragami.

It's just something you enjoy doing, like tricking. I'd have to read up more on that skeletal cancer shit he's got going on, becuase that sounds hella fishy.

actually, you can.

ah there is more than one type of addiction people. there is physical addiction, and then there's mental addiction. besides that you can also make a case that weed addicts get pleasure from food there causing their bodies to release endorphines which would considered be a physical response that could become habit forming.

people can be addicted to sex, shopping, video games and gambling and much more. in the later 3 I mentioned ther is no "chemical to become addicted to. they are mental addictions, thought just as powerful and destructive as physical addiction.

[Andy Longcat]

actually, you can.

ah there is more than one type of addiction people. there is physical addiction, and then there's mental addiction. besides that you can also make a case that weed addicts get pleasure from food there causing their bodies to release endorphines which would considered be a physical response that could become habit forming.

people can be addicted to sex, shopping, video games and gambling and much more. in the later 3 I mentioned ther is no "chemical to become addicted to. they are mental addictions, thought just as powerful and destructive as physical addiction.


Prove to me this instant that marijuana has addicting chemicals or properties that make you physically addicted, or shut your cunt Joel.

Mental addiction is a made up thing. Like ADD. Nothing a good ass-whuppin can't fix.

[dogzer]

Just as the city lights doesnt let you see the stars.. you may love drugs so much it wont let you see the subtle, but greater, things that life has to offer.

[Syn]

you can't od on mary jane

unless you can magically smoke a lb. in a half minute

[slapkick]

whenever i smoke, i like to keep it a ritual yea know! when i smoke, i like to concentrate on smoking that shit and focus all my thoughts into smoking it. you must not let anything intercept you and your concentration of smoking. smoking is like homework to me man.

[dogzer]

whenever i smoke, i like to keep it a ritual yea know! when i smoke, i like to concentrate on smoking that shit and focus all my thoughts into smoking it. you must not let anything intercept you and your concentration of smoking. smoking is like homework to me man.

haha!

[Spiral]

Hi, I'm Spiral.


I study Geology at the university of Glasgow, and i'm doing stupidly well. I'm in the Scottish Trampolining squad and I trick quite regularly.

I've used Cocaine, Ecstasy, Rohypnol, Nitrous, Peyote, Ketamine, Psylocybin, LSD, Weed, Hash, Opium, Salvia, Mescaline, Nutmeg, DMT, Absinthe and Alcohol.

Judge me.

[Five]

I've used Cocaine, Ecstasy, Rohypnol, Nitrous, Peyote, Ketamine, Psylocybin, LSD, Weed, Hash, Opium, Salvia, Mescaline, Nutmeg, DMT, Absinthe and Alcohol.

I'm all out of medals, but I still have a large stash of sarcastic comments: way to go spiral!

p.s. absinthe = alcohol AND you = idiot

[Rahf]

Hi, I'm Spiral.


I study Geology at the university of Glasgow, and i'm doing stupidly well. I'm in the Scottish Trampolining squad and I trick quite regularly.

I've used Cocaine, Ecstasy, Rohypnol, Nitrous, Peyote, Ketamine, Psylocybin, LSD, Weed, Hash, Opium, Salvia, Mescaline, Nutmeg, DMT, Absinthe and Alcohol.

Judge me.

You are a bad person. Stay away from me.

[stony_wayz]

I drink boo's, smoke pot, Daily and eat an occasional mushroom and i still parkour trick and Skateboard 24/7 I see nothing wrong with it But dont smoke cigs i do and i regret i tons

[stony_wayz]

i alwayz get stoned before i do Hardcore stretching and warmups it makes it fun but you sober up quikley from all the adrenalin

[Dave C]

.....Rohypnol, Nitrous, Peyote, Ketamine, Psylocybin, LSD, Weed, Hash, Opium, Salvia, Mescaline, Nutmeg, DM.....

WTF where does anyone find fucking Mescaline these days?!

[Meegz]

Really, what I dislike about marijuana is that it isn't legal. Yes, in most cases if you are caught when you're only using it, you're probably a dumbass.....but the list of friends/family who have messed up their lives when they decided to start selling is way longer than is reasonable. It sucks that something with fewer negative side effects than robitussin has the potential cause such damage.

[Peleke]

I've always wanted to try pot.

But I don't know where to get it haha

[Rook]

such an interesting concept. seeing music is pretty nice.

I have mild synaesthesia anyway... I associate colours with numbers and letters, and can faintly visualise music I'm listening to.

[rock_ten]

I have mild synaesthesia anyway... I associate colours with numbers and letters, and can faintly visualise music I'm listening to.

you're not special.

[Spiral]

I'm all out of medals, but I still have a large stash of sarcastic comments: way to go spiral!

p.s. absinthe = alcohol AND you = idiot


If you knew anything you would realise that the reason real absinthe is well known and not just another super strong alcohol is that it contains Thujone, which is an active hallucinogen, you utter fuck.

also, you= a fucking sheep.


anyway, I was giving the example just to show that somebhody can use drugs and still lead a healthy and intellegent life. there's nothing that infuriates me more than faggots like you who believe everything their parents told them about, well everything.

[Spiral]

WTF where does anyone find fucking Mescaline these days?!

haha, I have a friend who's well connected with the rich kids in Edinburgh and can get pretty-much anything. although opium was easily the hardest to find.

[TKD_Andy]

spiral, you're just not cool man. Stop trying so hard.

[Rahf]

spiral, you're just not cool man. Stop trying so hard.

plus comme quote

[stony_wayz]

Its all about the Ether. And i say why huff it when you can take straight shots.
just dont smoke any after words or you might go up in flames.
Opium and Hash rule
I should just make some Musculine
Who wants to go picks some cacti's with me in Arizona

[dogzer]

I don't do drugs because I'm afraid it has long term side effects. In 10 or 20 years you guys may come back and tell me if was wrong if you want. I would have missed a lot of fun druggy times, and you'll get to laugh on my face, yay!

[stony_wayz]

I dont do drugs
I dont do crack cocaine
i dont do Methaphetamines
i dont do And kind of Needles
And i dont watch TV

[Sigil]

I use to smoke in highschool...but I quit once I graduated. No real reason, I just didn't feel like spending money on it. I haven't had any negative effects...plus it's not addicting, so it was easy to stop.

[Cory]

ah, im high now...so blazed. eheh. ah, Dave how can you trick like this...well, its dark so i probably couldnt, but maybe if it is well lit i could throw down alittle...hmm...Cheese Nips!

[Spiral]

spiral, you're just not cool man. Stop trying so hard.


Suck my fucking balls, Andy.

[not2serious]

It's all propaganda bullshit it. I fell for it as well. Alcohol and cigarettes do way more damage than weed will ever do. Yet why aren't these banned?

Plus you don't have to smoke it. You can eat it.

[zetafox]

Gives a special kick to protien shakes maybe?

[TKD_Andy]

It's all propaganda bullshit it. I fell for it as well. Alcohol and cigarettes do way more damage than weed will ever do. Yet why aren't these banned.

lol are you forgetting that THC dissolves your brain? Haha.

weed is banned because it is seen as a gateway drug, and *can* be addictive. I personally do not believe it's a gateway drug, ive smoked a load of weed and i havent felt the slightlest desire to try anything stronger. I also didnt smoke for 4 months, cold turkey or w/e you want to call it and i was fine. Weed is just nice because it helps me sleep like a baby. Saying that, i had a cracking nights sleep last night without smoking anything.

Another reason why weed is banned is because it is seen to have *immeditate* effects on your body. While you can drink a couple of pints one or two nights a week, you wont develop that beer gut or get diagnosed with liver damage/failure for a good few years. With weed, take a toke and it'll hit you, your responses will start to slow down etc etc, but its greatly emphasised that from that first hit its already dissolving your brain. This is stupid! Really it is. Cigarettes and alcohol do alot of damage, both overall to your body and to your psyche (pronounce sai-kee). Then again this is all subjective; it is all about how much you indulge in these activities. Bottom line is with cigarrettes, they are addictive. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug, its science. Now thinks about this; how many AA groups are there in the world, and uncharted alcoholics, then how many people smoke weed and say theyre fully blown addicted? Take cigarettes away from a smoker and they *can* go beserk because they need the nicotine, take a drink away from an alcoholic and they *can* get even worse. Take some weed away from a stoner and they'll just be bored.

The majority of 'propaganda' is true, or rather based on true facts, just spun out of all proportions. Like my personal favourite advert, the one with the girl holding an egg and a frying pan, she says that the egg is your brain and the frying pan is weed. Then she twats the egg with the frying pan, which is supposed to symbolise that weed WILL DESTROY J0O. This is based on the fact that THC dissolves brain tissue, this is true. It is also based on the effect weed has on peoples appearance to others; they appear 'smashed'. Personally, i just appear to be an incredibly lazy student. Which i am. Ok, moreso then with weed.

Weed is fun, but show respect for the people that dont want to do it. I'm not into forcing ppl to try it, or having a go at people because theyre saying its bad when they havent done it. That really is just plain ign'ant dawwwwg. lol.

this is all personal speculation and reasoning btw, so yeah.

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[dogzer]

Hah, weeders make me laugh.
Not admitting you 'have' or 'could have' a problem is, like, Day 1 on adiction denial. Same with alcoholics.

To me weed is as damaging as freaking coffee. I drink coffee, and i know it's bad for me, that's why i dont drink 6 cups a day like a motherfucker, 1 or 2 cups is good enough. You dont see me go around like an idiot telling everyone they are believing anti-coffee propaganda, see the difference?

You know someone who smokes weed is going downtown when he's starting to be a bitch about it all day, the only one who cares about them is their parents. That's as far as it goes, no one really cares what recreational drug users do to their brain as long as its not their problem, 'propaganda' is just a mere sugestion thought for your well being.

That's why weed is banned btw, cuz of little bitches wont admit weed is bad and can't handle being responsable consumers.

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[Dave C]

actually, it's banned cause of mexicans

and it doesn't dissolve brain tissue, that's ridiculous. if it did that it wouldn't protect from altzheimers disease very well, which it does.

it creats a coating around neurons altering electric impulses. sillies.

[dogzer]

actually, it's banned cause of mexicans
Lol, yeah that's true

[orichiu]

it creats a coating around neurons altering electric impulses. sillies.

could u explain that some more?

[rock_ten]

This term I have been doing a research project involving cannabinoids. Basically seeing the effects of a cannabinoid (not d9-THC, though) on neural cells, in vitro.

It fucks them to shit, totally. Huge changes in morphology and growth-rate.

[Dave C]

This term I have been doing a research project involving cannabinoids. Basically seeing the effects of a cannabinoid (not d9-THC, though) on neural cells, in vitro.

It fucks them to shit, totally. Huge changes in morphology and growth-rate.

Is this a cannabiniod which is produced in large quantities in regular marijuana? What sort of dosage are you using and how would it compare to real-world usage? I haven't really come across a whole lot about the effects on pregnancy

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8155
http://www.lewrockwell.com/armentano-p/armentano-p10.htm

[cannabanoid receptors were] densely packed on neurons that released GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid), which is the brain's main inhibitory neurotransmitter (it tells recipient neurons to stop firing). CB1 also sat near the synapse, the contact point between two neurons. This placement suggested that the cannabinoid receptor was somehow involved with signal transmission across GABA-using synapses.

The cell responds in a variety of ways when a ligand binds to the cannabinoid receptor (figure 2.3). The first step is activation of G-proteins, the first components of the signal-transduction pathway. That leads to changes in several intercellular components - such as cyclic AMP and calcium and potassium ions - which ultimately produce the changes in cell functions. The final result of cannabinoid receptor stimulation depends on the particular type of cell, the particular ligand, and the other molecules t hat might be competing for receptor binding sites. Different agonists vary in binding potency, which determines the effective dose of the drug, and efficacy, which determines the maximal strength of the signal that they transmit to the cell.
http://www.rism.org/isg/dlp/ganja/analyses/Marijuana%20and%20Medicine%202a.html#cann

[Rahf]

No offense, you guys probably think that it is interesting but I reckon the vast majority of people does not give a shit what pros/cons ganja has. They'll still smoke it.

[Casper]

No offense, you guys probably think that it is interesting but I reckon the vast majority of people does not give a shit what pros/cons ganja has. They'll still smoke it.

also I'm pretty sure they know it and still don't care :P

[rock_ten]

Is this a cannabiniod which is produced in large quantities in regular marijuana? What sort of dosage are you using and how would it compare to real-world usage? I haven't really come across a whole lot about the effects on pregnancy

I don't know if it is found naturally in weed, here it is anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIN_55,212-2

damn, we got 10mg of it for our project, I should have kept some aside to consume.

We are using it in final concentrations on the cells of 0.01uM to 20uM. I have no idea how this relates to in vivo concentrations and dosages - theres no way to trace it back at all because we are just growing cells in vitro.

[dogzer]

it's all placebo effect anyway, give any weed smoker some oregano wrapped up on paper and he'll smoke it and he'll be high for hours and you'll gain a friend for life.. what, fucking admit it.. oh what, you can't handle it? tough luck

[Dave C]

it's all placebo effect anyway, give any weed smoker some oregano wrapped up on paper and he'll smoke it and he'll be high for hours and you'll gain a friend for life.. what, fucking admit it.. oh what, you can't handle it? tough luck

haha this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read

yeah! That's why in all the placebo vs cannabis studies the results are always the same for both groups! [/sarcasm]

[Semper]

I haven't researched marijuana much, but I do have a bit of experience with smoking it and I also know a few people who smoke weed regularly (which is to be expected when you consider you can legally buy weed at coffeeshops here if you're 18). One guy I met while doing a project at university was a huge stoner, but also one of the most intelligent and motivated guys I've ever met. He was also a great kickboxer. That affirmed my believe that weed is harmless. Offcourse there are people who lack the discipline to do something productive every once in a while and just smoke weed all day, but that has nothing to do with weed at all. These are the kind of people that would fail at life sooner or later anyway.

The only real downside to smoking marijuana is that it makes your breath smell like you use diarrhea for mouthwash...

[rock_ten]

This is based on the fact that THC dissolves brain tissue, this is true.

^ bullshit

[dogzer]

I haven't done absolutely no research whatsoever, but i can strongly affirm you that marijuana makes you explode into little pieces eventualy. So it's your ass...

[AJCN]

:square: This thread still lives?

[stony_wayz]

dude i could go off about pot all day.
Cuz there is so much shit that pisses me off.
Like back in old america why the fuck did they legalize boos instead of bud.
And how can you call Marijuana a gateway drug? like 85% of herione users have smoked pot. but only like 8% of potsmokers have even tried an opiate.
You say addicted i say completely infatuated with it.
I did a 25min speech in my drug and alcohol class about pot. i failed because i got data to prove everything they taught was bullshit. and yet after she checked all my source they were all true.
thats just comes to show
Everything they tell you nomatter what it is is just twisted a lil bit
And i dont even think people should be able to say stoner or marijuana
until they have at least have gotten stoned. Cuz stoner is used to Steroe type and lower the standards when refering to a pot smoker. i know to things im not dumb im kinda a procrastinator but im definetly not lazy.
and if you think Pots bad for try thinkin about this did you know most instant foods are worst for you that pot.
im sorry i dont know where im goin with this im just ranting because there are close minded people

[Rahf]

dude i could go off about pot all day.
Cuz there is so much shit that pisses me off.
Like back in old america why the fuck did they legalize boos instead of bud.
And how can you call Marijuana a gateway drug? like 85% of herione users have smoked pot. but only like 8% of potsmokers have even tried an opiate.
You say addicted i say completely infatuated with it.
I did a 25min speech in my drug and alcohol class about pot. i failed because i got data to prove everything they taught was bullshit. and yet after she checked all my source they were all true.
thats just comes to show
Everything they tell you nomatter what it is is just twisted a lil bit
And i dont even think people should be able to say stoner or marijuana
until they have at least have gotten stoned. Cuz stoner is used to Steroe type and lower the standards when refering to a pot smoker. i know to things im not dumb im kinda a procrastinator but im definetly not lazy.
and if you think Pots bad for try thinkin about this did you know most instant foods are worst for you that pot.
im sorry i dont know where im goin with this im just ranting because there are close minded people

Were you high when you wrote this?

[Andy Longcat]

Holy shit dogzer!

You're spewing so much bullshit haha.

You're either a very stupid fuck, a very conservative fuck, or just a gayass.

[dogzer]

no i'm not!

all the most closed minded people i've known abuse pot severely. For example, when i tell them pot is bad, they are really closed minded about it, right there it shows how i won this thread, i won it bad, when a good girl gets slapped she takes it.. and likes it, i'm not even asking you to like it.. thread closed.

[Syn]

how the fuck do you win a thread?

[dogzer]

you ask too many questions, if this thread is too fast for you, just don't post anything

[Five]

dogzer, face it: you're an idiot. Every single post of yours that I've seen is just total bullshit; you have the dumbest opinions on absolutely everything. You think you are right, when you are just talking shit. I realise that I have the benefit of hindsight, but I really wish you're mother and I had decided to abort you.

Put shortly, piss off!

[Benji]

Haha, how the hell are you 24 dogzer?

[Iron Fist]

Haha, how the hell are you 24 dogzer?

Yeah, I was gonna mention that too. You sound like a 14 year old, dogzer!

[Rahf]

Dogzer loses at internet life. I think the worst things are that he's trying to be cool by saying "My dogzer philosophy on this..." as if it was something good and important.

Face it dogzer, you are a complete jerk.

[dogzer]

hahahaha, you guys are so cute! :tongue:

[Andy Longcat]

and you're so gay haha

[dogzer]

you too haha, remember? we were so drunk!