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iMagnusX
Jan-08-07, 07:06 PM
OK I think I'm doing something wrong with this stretch. I generally feel tension in the back of the knee, and it never feels like my ass is close enough to the wall so that my legs can slide nice and horizontal-like. After 10 minutes or whatever in this position, the upper, inside part behind the knees feels reaaally stretched. Meanwhile, i'm not getting much stretch in the groin.

I can't yet do the lean-forward, on-the-ground straddle hamstring stretch because my body just doesn't let me lean forward. Are there any other nice passive ham stretches. The standing variation gets tiresome, and so do the grab-the-leg/toe ones.

short gorilla
Jan-08-07, 09:31 PM
Have you ever tried using a rope and pulley? You just hang it from the ceiling, hold onto one end, put your foot through the loop on the other end, and pull. Then you can lean into the stretch, and let the rope hold you up.

J.B. II
Jan-08-07, 09:34 PM
have you ever tried to branle more?

CusTuM
Jan-08-07, 09:53 PM
experiment with turning your legs at different angles. For example your toes don't have to necessarily point directly away from the wall. Never hurt todo ankle, calf and hamstring stretches either... cuz they're all somewhat related.

iMagnusX
Jan-08-07, 09:57 PM
uh, i'll look around campus for a rope and pulley. it's a little dubious tho.

i'll tell you man, the college life limits my branleh activities. btw, this is the only place i've heard branle/branleh. It's not on urban dic, or anything really. apparently "branle" is a 6th century French dance. check out the etymology:

[Origin: 1575–85; < MF, deriv. of branler to shake, swing (prob. from the phrase branler une danse), OF bran(s)ler to move (a limb, the head), contr. of brandeler to shake, equiv. to brand(ir) to brandish + -eler suffix of expressive verbs < VL *-illāre]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)

:smile:

iMagnusX
Jan-08-07, 10:37 PM
edit don't work.

i'll try different foot angles. I'll also try to incorporate some ankle stretching into my routine, thanks.

btw, is split stretching something you just have to grit and grunt through? Because that shit is serious. Today after 3 tense/releases at the edge of ROM i just felt like dying.

Solfire
Jan-09-07, 12:06 AM
edit don't work.

i'll try different foot angles. I'll also try to incorporate some ankle stretching into my routine, thanks.

btw, is split stretching something you just have to grit and grunt through? Because that shit is serious. Today after 3 tense/releases at the edge of ROM i just felt like dying.

Well stretching any muscle to be that flexible is really evident in a duration of time. This flexibility happens along periods of constant stretching. You can't really expect it to happen after a short while getting back into it.:juji:

iMagnusX
Jan-09-07, 07:19 AM
well i mean the "split stretch" to be a different stretch. The one where you stand up, and then bring your legs out wide like you're doing the sidesplit.

I didn't really expect massive gains in flexibility in um... 12 hours or whatever.

lastmanstanding
Jan-09-07, 02:26 PM
I have done this stretch extensively. Doing it for 15 mins a night listening to dragonforce is really convenient. its really hardcore and aches and stuff loads, but i dont actually think it is a very efficient stretch. i recommend regular sidesplits instead.

iMagnusX
Jan-09-07, 04:42 PM
I have done this stretch extensively. Doing it for 15 mins a night listening to dragonforce is really convenient. its really hardcore and aches and stuff loads, but i dont actually think it is a very efficient stretch. i recommend regular sidesplits instead.

Which one is hardcore? The standing sidesplits or the wall?
I definately know that standing sidesplits are efficient, they kick the shit out of my legs and adductors. Maybe too much so, and that's why I'm too much of a pussy to do them passively for a long time, or even PNF to the max w/ a 30 second hold at the end.

I tried moving my foot angle around earlier today. Basically I can go from pointing my toes slightly in a few degrees (which seems backwards because I tighten my adductors to do so) to maybe 15 degrees outwards (which is the most relaxed but hits my inner knee, and maybe my sartorius muscle?) I don't feel much when my feet are at 0 degrees (perpendicular to wall), I dunno. It takes a little tension to get them that way though.

lastmanstanding
Jan-10-07, 02:24 PM
i meant the wall one, though i was saying it wasnt as effective as the standing one. The standing one is probably even more hardcore though. Anyway, hardcoreness isnt the point. its efficiency for giving you the splits thats the point.

Ashtar
Jan-15-07, 01:00 PM
You feel it in the back of the knee because the wall stretch can also be a kill stretch of the posterior muscles. The wall's flat, so you can't cheat on your hamstring stretch by bending your knee, and the foot needs to be dorsiflexed too, something people sometimes avoid in that, which increases it.

I don't think pain in the knee would have anything to do with the actualy adductors you're stretching.