540 Cleaning Up

[Benji]

Just cleaning up my 540. Any tips?

http://www.veligood.com/upload/60890af8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6-5XSrU4-Ac





Edit: I also learned a flash. Any advice is appreciated. Sorry about youtube quality.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EAikScSdQNQ

[Benji]

Anyone?

[XoN]

Anyone?

Fix the youtube and I'll have a look ;)

The video you have requested is not available.

[Benji]

You just have to click the links a few times. Every once in a while that message appears.

[Benji]

You guys are no help, haha.:agony:

[AndyLeTerrible]

you know, i think your 540 is nice, as far as cleaning it up it looks clean to me already. You could be landing a little more upright i guess but that will come with more practice and jumping higher. Hard to see if your kicking leg is straight, maybe it's not i'm not sure. but it looks good and you land in the same spot you take off which is good too. So just make sure your kicking leg is straight. and after you throw your arms up and kick bring them in towards your chest to help with the spin (+ looks cleaner imo) and you could experiment with bringing the non-kicking leg up straight instead of bent then tuck it when you kick, but either is fine. hope that makes sense haha

[XoN]

Looks like a pretty nice 540 to me Benji. As Andy said, I think bringing your arms in close towards the end of the kick will help a bit.

[Swartz]

Sorta look like you lacked some extension, at least for part of the kick. You could try landing with your upper body more upright too. It's got good height and all that. It isn't terrible or anything.

[Nick B]

i'd recommend using a different setup for your 540, that one may look kinda funny in combos. try to just step over. also, you may want to focus on keeping your back straight and upright, that helped mine alot. ummm, you can also try chambering the kicking leg and stalling the kick a little, you'll probably need to if you change your setup. that should make it look more like a nice clean kick and less like a flippy kind of move.

also, your trailing leg shouldnt chamber until the kick has gone all the way across, that'll make you look less scrunched up.

edit: your flash looks pretty good, i think all you need to do is drill it more, nothing really to change. one recommendation though is when you land, set your trailing leg down, dont let it kinda dangle in the air and bounce around, that'll make your landing look alot more confident and smooth.

[broertjetim]

the setup is good

juji uses the same setup
i also use that setup
it gets you good height :)

[Jon P]

the setup is good

juji uses the same setup
i also use that setup
it gets you good height :)

No, it isnt good. Your kicks are very ugly (keep reading before you freak out at this point)--I would blame 80% of the reason on your little pansy inward kick setup thingy.
Juji can use it and make it look decent...and he is the only person i have ever seen make it look okay...well maybe DD.
Plus juji uses the normal setup in combos.
But whatever, do what you i want guess. Your tricks will be the only thing suffering. You should start listening to advice rather then argue with it.

[Shaolin.dk]

No, it isnt good. Your kicks are very ugly (keep reading before you freak out at this point)--I would blame 80% of the reason on your little pansy inward kick setup thingy.
Juji can use it and make it look decent...and he is the only person i have ever seen make it look okay...well maybe DD.
Plus juji uses the normal setup in combos.
But whatever, do what you i want guess. Your tricks will be the only thing suffering. You should start listening to advice rather then argue with it.

Retard.

The setup is very good for getting height!
But it's smart to learn both ways, specially because of comboes!

[Jon P]

Retard. (gonna pretend you didnt start personal attacks, because i would be tempted to ban you)

The setup is very good for getting height!
But it's smart to learn both ways, specially because of comboes!

Yes, judging by the massive height on your 540 cresent, that statement MUST be true.

:dead:

[AndyLeTerrible]

Retard.

The setup is very good for getting height!
But it's smart to learn both ways, specially because of comboes!
when people say stuff like that it's usually because they're not even able to do a simple step through one and need the huge step.. (or a crescent kick..is that what you're doing? in your "jacknife") and need it to help with momentum jkjhkhjkjkl

[Jon P]

when people say stuff like that it's usually because they're not even able to do a simple step through one and need the huge step.. (or a crescent kick..is that what you're doing? in your "sideswipe") and need it to help with momentum jkjhkhjkjkl

Yup.
There is no practical reason for that set-up, except for when you are first learning the move and needs all the extra time you can get. It steals all (if there even is any) momentum, its slow, it looks very ugly and it has no power.
The one juji does is way different from the one you are doing. Juji hardly lifts his foot off the ground...your guys are doing some knee height inward cresent kick.
I know that the setup may seem easier right now...but trust me, drill the other one! You will thank me in the end. It is akward at first because it may feel like its rushing the move, especially when you are just beginning (judging by both of your kicks, you probably are).

[broertjetim]

No, it isnt good. Your kicks are very ugly (keep reading before you freak out at this point)--I would blame 80% of the reason on your little pansy inward kick setup thingy.
Juji can use it and make it look decent...and he is the only person i have ever seen make it look okay...well maybe DD.
Plus juji uses the normal setup in combos.
But whatever, do what you i want guess. Your tricks will be the only thing suffering. You should start listening to advice rather then argue with it.

the inside crescent is not my setup for spinning hook..
i use it as a combo...

my normal setup for 540's en 540 hook is like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIbKeXNeAkQ

and i'm happy with it:wink:

[Nick B]

the setup is good

juji uses the same setup
i also use that setup
it gets you good height :)

i get plenty of height, more than both of you, and i dont use that setup. im not trying to brag, im just saying that it isnt impossible to get the same height or better from a step over setup. i use to do kicks like you guys are, and i came to the conclusion that they look bad, and dont work for combos.

Retard.

The setup is very good for getting height!
But it's smart to learn both ways, specially because of comboes!

you sound unbelievable insecure about your tricks hahah. whatever, keep doing kicks like that, just dont ask for help when everyone tells you they look like shit.

the inside crescent is not my setup for spinning hook..
i use it as a combo...

my normal setup for 540's en 540 hook is like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIbKeXNeAkQ

and i'm happy with it:wink:

hes saying that the setup you guys do, the one in the video you posted, looks like some kind of knee height inner cresent thing. your kick is great, but the setup makes it look silly. seriously, your combos will be so much smoother and faster if you change your setup. but, whatever floats your boat.

[Shaolin.dk]

Yes, judging by the massive height on your 540 cresent, that statement MUST be true.

:dead:

yeah my 540 crescent sucks!

But let's take my 540 as example with juji setup!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG841Np1tVg

I can do both ways, my point is that you shouldn't make it a fact that its a bad setup. Just like tucking on the knees or behind, there's no best way. Be open minded.

[Nick B]

yeah my 540 crescent sucks!

But let's take my 540 as example with juji setup!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpvARRFuOF0

I can do both ways, my point is that you shouldn't make it a fact that its a bad setup. Just like tucking on the knees or behind, there's no best way. Be open minded.

we're not saying its bad, we're saying its ugly. and it is. your kick is nice, but the setup makes it look silly. plus, when you start to combo, theres no way in hell that setup will look good. you're growing dependent on it and when you finally figure out you need to change it, your 540s are going to be way worse than if you used a good setup from the beginning.

[Matt K]

yeah my 540 crescent sucks!

But let's take my 540 as example with juji setup!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpvARRFuOF0

I can do both ways, my point is that you shouldn't make it a fact that its a bad setup. Just like tucking on the knees or behind, there's no best way. Be open minded.

Uh.... Those are btwists.

[Shaolin.dk]

Haha fuck

[broertjetim]

that does not looks like 540 crescent to me:p

think you posted the wrong video man :p

[Nick B]

i saw the 540 he was talking about, i clicked on his youtube username and found it. its called 540 with juji setup or something.

[broertjetim]

his 540 looks verry good to me

[Nick B]

his 540 looks verry good to me

yeah, i said that, i said the setup made it look silly but that the kick was good.

ok, im done arguing, if you think it looks cool, then go for it, but benji, i highly recommend changing it.

[broertjetim]

i'm gonna try the spinning setup and see what i get

i'll post 2 540's
one with the new
and one with the old setup by friday i think

[Benji]

OK, thanks for the help everyone! I will try it with a smaller, quicker step on Friday, and then I'll post a video. I'll also try combos with it to get comfortable.

[ZoVEGA]

when doing your flash jump UP^^^ instead of up back and under, when you get up in the air your kinda wanna just rotate as your at up and come down in2 the landing.

[Swartz]

Yes the one step through setup we're all discussing is how I first learned them as well. The normal one without that extra little hop looks vastly better and it isn't an issue of difficulty, but rather what you're used to.

As in, this setup reigns supreme:

August '04 (front angle): [http://www.divshare.com/download/54357-1bb
July '06 (side angle): http://www.divshare.com/download/54360-229