Protein intake

[Phil D]

is 150 grams of protein from whey too much for one day? i know its better to eat protein from natural sources. At the moment i get about 75 grams of protein from whey an im thinkin about doubling it.

[tracekillz]

i wouldnt double it if i were you. the recommended amount is 2g/kg/d. firstly, excess protein cant be stored in the first place. secondly, consider upping your b6 in addition. studies show that taking too much protein will actually make your kidneys work harder...which causes problems. its also been linked to increased urinary calcium excretion which leads to osteoperosis in your later years...that is, unless youre tupac and plan on dying before 30. THUG LIIIFFEEE!!!!!!!

[Phil D]

consider upping your b6 in addition.

sorry for being ignorant but whats b6?

[tracekillz]

ill break it down for you. there are many types of amino acids that you can get from different types of protein. to break down this protein, vitamin b6 is in order. vitamin b6 helps the atp break down things like protein and turn it into energy. make sure youre getting all types of amino acids which will give you a nice balanced intake. also make sure youre getting your vitamin b6. luckily, vit. b6 is found in many protein-rich foods. but i would venture to say that youre taking a wee bit too much protein.


example: if you have a cold..and you buy orange juice which has 100% vitamin C..drinking 2 of those bottles is NOT going to give you 200%. so where does the rest go? thru your kidneys and out your firehose. and voila...its waste.

[Phil D]

ill break it down for you. there are many types of amino acids that you can get from different types of protein. to break down this protein, vitamin b6 is in order. vitamin b6 helps the atp break down things like protein and turn it into energy. make sure youre getting all types of amino acids which will give you a nice balanced intake. also make sure youre getting your vitamin b6. luckily, vit. b6 is found in many protein-rich foods. but i would venture to say that youre taking a wee bit too much protein.

ah so thats why natural protein sources are better, because they contain suff like b6. Thanks for the info mate, i think i mite jus up it to 100grams of protein from whey then

[rock_ten]

example: if you have a cold..and you buy orange juice which has 100% [of the] vitamin C [RDA]..drinking 2 of those bottles is NOT going to give you 200% [RDA]. so where does the rest go? thru your kidneys and out your firehose. and voila...its waste.

yes, it will. Infact Vit. C is probably the best example of a micronutrient that IS megadosable. Government RDA's are for people that want to be like this
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OP - why do you (indirectly) call whey "unnatural"? If whey isn't "natural" than neither is cottage cheese. Its just as much a food as anything else really.

Theres something inexplicably crap about it, though. Something that makes eggs beat the fuck out of it, every time. And meat etc. Maybe the digestion rate, or paucity of micronutrients, like tracekillz suggested.

I've been having fun results from 2+g protein per lb bodyweight. Eggs, meat, milk, some whey if I have it around.

[Lobo]

Should I take B6 injectables?

[XoN]

Eat lots of bananas!

[Lobo]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Bunch_of_radishes.jpg

Move over, bananas. I've found a new source of potassium.

[Justin]

1 gram per pound of body weight is the general rule.

[Fanya]

1 gram per pound of body weight is the general rule.

He's asking about upping intake from a whey source though, not from a food. Generally you don't want protein from whey to constitute the majority of your proteins intake each day. I mean, as a last resort, sure. But it's not as helpful to your body to take whey instead of eating something like cottage cheese or steak. Also, I think someone already mentioned 2g/kg, which is essentially the same rule.

[Phil D]

He's asking about upping intake from a whey source though, not from a food. Generally you don't want protein from whey to constitute the majority of your proteins intake each day. I mean, as a last resort, sure. But it's not as helpful to your body to take whey instead of eating something like cottage cheese or steak. Also, I think someone already mentioned 2g/kg, which is essentially the same rule.

i know its better to get ur protein from stuff like cottage cheese and steak, but WHY!?

[Final Prophecy]

Because they are "complete" proteins I guess.

I've tried getting creatine but my dad works with a bit of nutrition and he mentioned Pancreatic problems, Renal ones (kidney ---someone mentioned ealrier), and not to mention liver.

I just drink protein shakes instead.

[Phil D]

yeh i thought about using some creatine but i dont like the fact that it makes ur body retain more water and that when you stop taking it ul lose the 'pumped up' look in your muscles. Of course it has its benefits aswell but i just think im better off sticking to whey:good:

[XoN]

i know its better to get ur protein from stuff like cottage cheese and steak, but WHY!?

I think it's because if you get the protein from actual food, it generally comes with vitamins which help absorb the protein more efficiently, whereas pure protein doesn't.

[Lobo]

Yes. So obviously the more protein you're eating, the higher a percentage you can afford to get from supplements.

[NightHunter]

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Protein from whole food sources: they are more nutritionally dense. Whey and other protein supplements, as a rule, have very little in them except for protein, no micronutrients, unless they are added(and the efficacy of added nutrients is questioned by some, but that's beyond this conversation).
If you provide the majority of your protein with powders, you will miss out on many essential micronutrients that are contained in whole food sources.
This can be counteracted with a proper supplementation program, but it's much easier to eat steak, fish, poultry, and dairy products.

Creatine is not a supplement to give your muscles a full look, and make you retain water. I'm not even going to go into this here. If you train seriously with a good nutritional base, you should look into creatine supplementation, though.

There is no evidence suggesting that excess protein is in any way damaging to the excretory system in healthy individuals. The only negative effects of high protein diets have been seen in renal patients. I will say this again:

CLINICAL RESULTS FROM UNHEALTHY SUBJECTS CANNOT BE APPLIED TO A HEALTHY POPULATION

The "rule" of 1g/lb of bodyweight is merely a convenient way to make people eat more protein, but is not in any way a set rule.

[TKDGene]

i got kindey prroblems from not dinking at least a glass of water before and afterr

[Itachi]

1 gram per pound of body weight is the general rule.

that's right as a athlete you can double it.

[Gusch]

that's right as a athlete you can double it.

with no beneficial effects though. Except he consumes steroids.