Soreness

[Benji]

I've been tricking about once a week for an hour consistantly since January. I can't trick more often than that, because I'm usually sore about 5 days after tricking. I figured that if I kept a consistant schedule, I would eventually be able to trick more often because my body would be getting used to it. I wish I could trick at least twice or perhaps even thrice a week, but my body won't allow it. Is there anything that I can do about it, or do I just have to stick with tricking once a week?

[Skilzat85X]

Eat more protein and bananas and other healthy foods.

Stretch more when you're not sore.

[Anima]

what do bananas do ? oh erm thats an actual question btw not like "wtf would a banana do hahaha LMFAO !!".

[Sponge]

Do you stretch? I get sore too if I don't stretch! Stretching is important. *forgot to stretch last time* D:

[Fanya]

what do bananas do ? oh erm thats an actual question btw not like "wtf would a banana do hahaha LMFAO !!".

They're nutritious. Potassium and stuff in those things.

[compleks]

Proper nutrition and lost of rest. Your body will adapt quickly.

[Swartz]

Well I've tried everything but my body is pretty shit at adapting. Be it tricking or lifting, I always get sore and usually it's pretty heavy so it's at least 5 days minimum for most body parts to heal completely. Nutrition and rest included. It's fucking discouraging trying to juggle tricking and lifting. I don't even bother trying to anymore.

[chicanerous]

If there's a particular muscle that always get sore, try doing a couple heavy slow supramaximal eccentrics. Then if you've been a good boy all year, Santa will come a week later after the initial soreness from that and dramatically reduce any soreness you incur in subsequent exercise for the next few weeks after that.

If that doesn't work, it's probably because you don't really believe in Santa.

[Swartz]

Excuse me for being ignorant, but what's supramaximal eccentrics?

I don't know if you directed that at Benji, me, or both of us. Doesn't matter, but I can't make use of anything you said without knowing what you're talking about.

[Pale Nimbus]

Trick more frequently and for shorter periods of time. An hour of plyometrics is probably not a good idea unless you are a seasoned tricking veteran.

[Swartz]

Trick more frequently and for shorter periods of time. An hour of plyometrics is probably not a good idea unless you are a seasoned tricking veteran.
How about people that live in very snowy wintery conditions part of the year and the only reasonable tricking they can do is a once a week gym access? That's my situation. Each session leaves me sore for several days, so by the time I'm healed up to lift I'll kill my body even more after lifting and won't be able to trick worth a shit. If it's my legs (which is of major importance to my lifting) then you can forget about walking properly, must less tricking.

There's too many factors and variables for to just go and make a general statement like that. Everybody is different and deals with different situations.

[chicanerous]

Excuse me for being ignorant, but what's supramaximal eccentrics?

I don't know if you directed that at Benji, me, or both of us. Doesn't matter, but I can't make use of anything you said without knowing what you're talking about.
That was just in general.

A supramaximal eccentric is just the eccentric portion of a lift using about 100-125% of your 1-RM and lowering as slow as possible. The name sounds fancy, but it's pretty literal. Choose compounds lifts. Some options are:

Hamstrings -> RDL
Quads -> squat
Lats -> weighted pull-up
Chest -> weighted dip

By all that Santa crap, I mean that I'm not guaranteeing that this will work, but it's worth a shot.

[Swartz]

1-RM?

RDL?

Okay I might recognize some of this if everything wasn't abbreviated. I'm not new to lifting or tricking but not everyone uses the same abbreviations or terms. Come on now.

[chicanerous]

1-RM?

RDL?

Okay I might recognize some of this if everything wasn't abbreviated. I'm not new to lifting or tricking but not everyone uses the same abbreviations or terms. Come on now.
Are you serious? :dead:

1-RM = one repetition maximum
RDL = romanian deadlift

[Swartz]

Yes I'm serious you asshole. Believe it or not I'm not a 24/7 sarcasm machine. I mean do I seem like an intelligent person to you or something?

Also, thanks.



Ass.

[chicanerous]

I am so confused!

[Pale Nimbus]

How about people that live in very snowy wintery conditions part of the year and the only reasonable tricking they can do is a once a week gym access? That's my situation. Each session leaves me sore for several days, so by the time I'm healed up to lift I'll kill my body even more after lifting and won't be able to trick worth a shit. If it's my legs (which is of major importance to my lifting) then you can forget about walking properly, must less tricking.

There's too many factors and variables for to just go and make a general statement like that. Everybody is different and deals with different situations.

I didn't say "In general, everyone should trick frequently throughout the week for short periods of time." I was commenting specifically on Benji's case because he said the reason he couldn't trick more than once a week is because his body is too sore from the previous one hour tricking session. He didn't make mention of any obstacles (weather, a job, etc.) preventing him from tricking more than once a week other than his own soreness (caused by his hour-long tricking sessions), hence my suggestion to spread out the time over the week.

However, I did make the general statement that "an hour of plyometrics is probably not a good idea unless you are a seasoned tricking veteran", and I stand by my opinion. I just don't believe it is optimal for most people to trick for an hour straight, even if it's only once-per-week. But if all you have is a one-hour window of opportunity per week to trick, then I completely understand why you would trick for an hour straight.

I have 24 hr access to plyo floor M-F, so I completely lack your perspective, Swartz.

[Benji]

Yea, it's pretty cold and snowy/wet here too. I was mainly thinking about the Summer, though, when I have the opportunity to trick each day. I'll try some supramaximal lifts for now and then I'll try shorter tricking sessions more often in the Summer and ramp it up from there. Thanks everyone. :good:

[Swartz]

I didn't say "In general, everyone should trick frequently throughout the week for short periods of time." I was commenting specifically on Benji's case because he said the reason he couldn't trick more than once a week is because his body is too sore from the previous one hour tricking session. He didn't make mention of any obstacles (weather, a job, etc.) preventing him from tricking more than once a week other than his own soreness (caused by his hour-long tricking sessions), hence my suggestion to spread out the time over the week.

However, I did make the general statement that "an hour of plyometrics is probably not a good idea unless you are a seasoned tricking veteran", and I stand by my opinion. I just don't believe it is optimal for most people to trick for an hour straight, even if it's only once-per-week. But if all you have is a one-hour window of opportunity per week to trick, then I completely understand why you would trick for an hour straight.

I have 24 hr access to plyo floor M-F, so I completely lack your perspective, Swartz.

Yeah, when I only have 2 hours a week to trick, I have to put it all into that one session. Under different conditions, like when summer comes, your suggestion is exactly the kind of thing I aim for. I experimented with it last year and it definetly is helpful. You're quite fortunate to have that kind of gym access.

[alpha7158]

try whey, helps reduce the intensity and duration of DOMS for me.

[Skilzat85X]

try whey, helps reduce the intensity and duration of DOMS for me.
Well just protein in general does that. But yea, whey is protein, while protein is not always whey.

Just for extra clarification so nobody's like "CRAP WHATS WHEY WHERE DO I GET IT I HAVE NONE NEVER EVER"

[alpha7158]

Well just protein in general does that. But yea, whey is protein, while protein is not always whey.

Just for extra clarification so nobody's like "CRAP WHATS WHEY WHERE DO I GET IT I HAVE NONE NEVER EVER"

haha yeah, i just suggest whey because it is a cheap and effective source of protein.

And wtf is with people associating whey with creatine? Fucking tards.

[Benji]

Hmmm, I stopped using my whey because it never really seemed to help that much, and I have to douse it in chocolate syrup to get it to not taste like shit. May be worth getting back out though.

[alpha7158]

Hmmm, I stopped using my whey because it never really seemed to help that much, and I have to douse it in chocolate syrup to get it to not taste like shit. May be worth getting back out though.

just take some after tricking with milk, this is slow digestion and is best to prevent doms (absorbs over a period of about 5 hours if you take with milk).

[Rahf]

Take the taste like a man. Alpha has a good point about taking it with milk, it gives a better texture as well. Don't mess around with syrups or stuff like that. Find a taste that suits you instead. Different brands taste differently as well. Even if the flavour is the same.

Hope it sorts out Benj.

[Benji]

The brand I got was BiPro flavorless, and it tastes like shit. I mixed the whey, two eggs, a banana, and some milk in a blender so hopefully it won't taste that bad when I drink it after I trick tonight.

This is gonna be a shit session my right hamstring and groin are so sore. :agony:

[Fanya]

The brand I got was BiPro flavorless, and it tastes like shit. I mixed the whey, two eggs, a banana, and some milk in a blender so hopefully it won't taste that bad when I drink it after I trick tonight.

This is gonna be a shit session my right hamstring and groin are so sore. :agony:

That does sound like shit. Next time get chocolate and mix it with milk; it tastes fine with water too, but with milk it's like any other shake.

[Swartz]

ON 100% chocolate or vanilla whey and water is all I need. Tastes perfectly fine. No need to add anything else or make it milk instead.

[Syn]

I like mixing it with milk, because it's absored throughout a longer period of time, which means less protein wasted

[compleks]

I've always used a natural flavourless whey, and could sort of understand why you guys complained about the flavour. 'Sort of' meaning, it doesn't taste great, but I still wouldn't bitch about it.

Then, a few days ago I tried some of my friends comercial brand flavoured whey. Thus, I have come to the conclusion that anyone who complains about the flavour of their whey needs a good smack.

[Benji]

Well I tricked last night. This was my first time tricking two times in one week in like, ever. I'm actually less sore today than I was yesterday. I don't know if it's because I ate more protein, but I think it's probably that my body is just starting to adapt.