Fucking pullups

[slik]

I have a pull-up bar at home. I do pullups quite often. I appear to have good upperbody strength. I've been training pullups for quite some time. Still:

THE MOST I'VE EVER DONE IS 13!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS THIRTEEN!!!!!! :ogre: :ogre: :ogre: :ogre: :ogre: And just recently, doing even 10 is a real bitch. I can't seem to progress at all.. Even when I've tried keeping with it.. Damn it all... (tips)

[dogzer]

Ok how about this. You train your resistance by doing as many pullups as you can, when your muscles fail wait like 5 seconds and do 2 or 3 more and repeat until you can't lift yourself anymore.

[shengoikee]

try adding some weight maybe.

[J.B. II]

try branling. my record is 18, branleh. HO HO HO!!!

[taco]

try pushing up on the bar first... dunno if it'll work tho... cuz when u max out bench pressing, u can actually lift more by pulling down on the bar for 10 seconds... but like i said... that's just the bench press... so far

[Syn]

do pyramid sets of pull ups, start with just 1, then do 3, then do 5, then do 7, then do 10, then do 7, then do 5, then do 3, then do 1

you will get more and more pullups if you follow this program, it's almost guaranteed

[Steve]

Try doing nothing, that worked well for me. Increased my max from 15 to 20.

[Shadow_Warrior]

Ok how about this. You train your resistance by doing as many pullups as you can, when your muscles fail wait like 5 seconds and do 2 or 3 more and repeat until you can't lift yourself anymore.

Please tell me that's a fucking joke.

IRT #1

I went from 5 to 15 during two months last summer. Just apply all Pavel's naked warrior principles and you are set.

[Qba]

Add weight, you just need belt.

[Shadow_Warrior]

I did that too but you don't need a belt. Just load your backpack with weights and you're set.

[rock_ten]

working "harder" is rarely a successful way to overcome a plateau. Try to incorporate some kind of cycling of the load, and cut down your reps. Personally doing about half as many reps as I could do with a given weight, is as "hard" as I can train without burning out quickly.

Theres endless ways to cycle shit, and I haven't found anything that works yet so I won't give specific advice on that

[slik]

I shall put my newly gained knowledge to use..

[dogzer]

Please tell me that's a fucking joke.



I was being fucking serious

[Shadow_Warrior]

If you get to 20 pull-ups with that method I'll give you donkie.

[Gusch]

try negatives with weights added, they're pretty awesome for overcoming a plateau. And don't always go to muscle failure, this will only lead to stress for your cns in the long run.

[Syn]

try what I said, our drill instructor had us do that for pullup exercises, that and all the other pt we had to do, our platoon pull up average went from 13.5 to 19

[Shadow_Warrior]

do pyramid sets of pull ups, start with just 1, then do 3, then do 5, then do 7, then do 10, then do 7, then do 5, then do 3, then do 1

you will get more and more pullups if you follow this program, it's almost guaranteed

How did you do them? I mean did you do one set per day, per hour or what? Also did you do more than one set per session like:

1, 3 mon
5, 7 tue
10, 7 wed
5, 3 etc...

[Syn]

all the numbers are one exercise, do the first number, then hop off, wait about 30 seconds, then do the next, wait 30 seconds.. repeat until your all the way back down to one

[SuperChimp]

sleep and take a day off.....

[Theomacho]

I can only do one... Or maybe two.. (With one arm)

[Fanya]

Steve and SuperChimp have given the best advice so far. After you recover try doing negatives, pyramids, and all the other stuff that was suggested.

[acidhell1]

My recent chin ups :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6E07KbBHLE

[Ashtar]

Adding weight is good, but that's not necessarily going to increase his endurance, he can wait until he has more reps before going up if he wants to.

The trick just seems to be increasing volume, either set-wise, or throughout the day Pavel-style. That, and recovery methods, because more muscle won't be built if you're starved or overtrained.

[Syn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJUjuC86cw8

recent pullups

[J.B. II]

excellent pull ups (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uryt3n9q1q4)
ho ho ho!

[J.B. II]

i have never had a pull up bar and i can still do 18 pull ups, branleh. branling has made me strong, bran branleh.

BRANLE BRANLEEEEHH!!!!!

[Syn]

excellent pull ups (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uryt3n9q1q4)
ho ho ho!


the lady on the right is obviously cheating...

[dogzer]

A bit more at the end you can see how she depends on leggy impulse to jetpack herself upwards

[J.B. II]

oh really? HO HO HO!

BRANLE BRANLEEEEHH!!!!

[Gusch]

the lady on the right is obviously cheating...

The one on the left cheats too though. So it's fair. :)

[dogzer]

branleh on, little girls

[J.B. II]

BRANLE ON, MY BRANLING FRIENDS!!!!!!

[dogzer]

BRANLE ON, MY BRANLING FRIENDS!!!!!!
I'm going to branleh you on this one, branleh!

[J.B. II]

bran branleh

[Steve]

Hahahah all the videos have the shittiest form I've ever witnessed. I thought mine was bad merely because I sway like 2 inches at the bottom.

[compleks]

Form is over rated...

[compleks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ve0RCX-1Y8

Yep...

[Pale Nimbus]

If I completely refrain from using my legs to generate momentum, I can do 5 complete pullups and maybe 10 chinups, and that's only on a really good day

[Legendary]

Pull ups: 15

Chinups: 30

I do it in our changing room where the bar is facing the mirror. I just go crazy. When I'm done, I drop to the floor and can't even move my arms.

As far as form, I do my best to make sure I don't swing. Slow and painful's the way to go!

[slik]

Swinging and using legs is gay, those vids were mostly awful. J.B. II, you're probably the most useless person on this forum. The best advice I believe I already got on the first 2 pages so this thread can die.

[Noobtricks]

wats the difference between a chin up n a pull up???? :punched:

[slik]

Google is the difference.

[taco]

Google is the difference.

haha werd

[Legendary]

Even better, Wiki is the difference!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-up_%28exercise%29

A pull-up is an upper body compound pulling exercise. Begin by stepping up and grasping a bar with an overhand grip (i.e. pronated grip). Pull your body up until your chin clears the bar, then finish by lowering your body until your arms and shoulders are fully extended. Repeat.‎

Pull-ups are often referred to as chin-ups. The term chin-up is traditionally used when the exercise is performed with an underhand (supinated) grip. (arms only shoulder width apart, movement almost similar to curls therefore targeting biceps.)

Pull-ups primarily target the Latissimus Dorsi muscle group in the back, though many other muscles are involved in the movement.

[J.B. II]

J.B. II, you're probably the most useless person on this forum.
HO HO HO!

[Gusch]

Even better, Wiki is the difference!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-up_%28exercise%29

A pull-up is an upper body compound pulling exercise. Begin by stepping up and grasping a bar with an overhand grip (i.e. pronated grip). Pull your body up until your chin clears the bar, then finish by lowering your body until your arms and shoulders are fully extended. Repeat.‎

Pull-ups are often referred to as chin-ups. The term chin-up is traditionally used when the exercise is performed with an underhand (supinated) grip. (arms only shoulder width apart, movement almost similar to curls therefore targeting biceps.)

Pull-ups primarily target the Latissimus Dorsi muscle group in the back, though many other muscles are involved in the movement.

Except that this definition is totally wrong.

[Rahf]

Having a picture to look at is the ultimate way of describing something through the internet. A shitload of text is just going to confuse people. Native english or not.

[Wesker]

wats the difference between a chin up n a pull up???? :punched:

The same difference between the supinated and pronated grip.

A chin up is hands facing you (supinated)

A pull up is hands facing away (pronated)


capische

[Fanya]

The same difference between the supinated and pronated grip.

A chin up is hands facing away (supinated)

A pull up is hands facing you (pronated)


capische

You got it backwards dude

[slik]

Right.... OMG I SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just did the ladder system. And I could only do it up to six! SIX FFS!!

I did 1 rep, rest, 2 rep, rest, 3 rep, rest, 4 rep, rest, 5 rep, rest, 6 rep agony, rest, then I was supposed to do seven but I just could NOT so I did 5 rep, rest, 4 rep, rest, 3 rep agony, rest, 2 rep agony, rest, 1 rep agony..

What in the bloody hell..

[Syn]

don't worry abou it, it's pretty hard at first, but your pullups will show great results in a few weeks

[slik]

I'll keep at it.. Should I be doing them every day or what? Your in the military now, right? I expect you have to do quite a bit of chins/pullups then :tongue:

[alexXx]

yeah syn, how often to you suggest to train that?

[Wesker]

You got it backwards dude

No ! I'm right, you are wrong. Now shut up

[Legendary]

Except that this definition is totally wrong.

Very constructive post! So enlighten us!

[Gusch]

a chinup is by no means similar to curls and doesn't primarily target the biceps. It just doesn't put the biceps into a weak position like the pull ups. That's all about the difference of palms facing towards you and palms facing away from you.

Or do you honestly believe that the biceps (a relatively small muscle) is pulling your whole body? Even better your whole body with added weights?

[Fanya]

Good job editing your post after I corrected you, *Weskey. Too bad you can't do that in real life, ha ha!

[Syn]

yeah syn, how often to you suggest to train that?

every 2-3 days works fine, if you do it everyday you'll kill the muscle, fo sho

[compleks]

Good job editing your post after I corrected you, Gusch. Too bad you can't do that in real life, ha ha!

I think you mean wesker?

[Fanya]

Yeah, their avatars are roughly the same colors (yellow/green), and I'm visually retarded.

[Shadow_Warrior]

Or do you honestly believe that the biceps (a relatively small muscle) is pulling your whole body? Even better your whole body with added weights?

Yeah, I agree. I even use my fucking hamstrings to pull me up when doing pull-ups. Only a fucking retard is relaxing his entire body while doing them and load all the work to the arms.

[Ashtar]

There's actually nothing wrong with their form at all.

The girls are doing the pulls perfectly.

You'll notice that the info says they are demonstrating variations aimed at maximizing repetitions. They'll definately get more this way. They make it a full-body exercise aimed at developing endurance and skill.

Indeed, doing it this way probably is faster and uses less energy. It's a thing we should be able to do even if we choose to do stricter isolating pullups for pure strength.

[Gusch]

why should I be able to do that?
Since when can I do such movements on a wall or something similar?

Then again, this movement is so simple and easy, that everybody who can perform even 1 correct pullup should be able to do this.

[Wesker]

Good job editing your post after I corrected you, *Weskey. Too bad you can't do that in real life, ha ha!

Good job editing your post after I corrected you, *Fanya. Too bad you can't do that in real life, ha ha!

[Ashtar]

why should I be able to do that?
Since when can I do such movements on a wall or something similar?

Then again, this movement is so simple and easy, that everybody who can perform even 1 correct pullup should be able to do this.

Hm, not on a wall, but then again, if we were only training for walls then why use a bar which would have a slightly different grip and allows your body to track forward? What were those weird pullups where your elbow rests against a bad so you can't swing forward, making it stricter and work the biceps more? Those seem more wall-ish.

Although, when climbing a wall, you can use your feet too... so shouldn't you be training that to be all wall-specific?

As to where you'd use it, who knows, on a tree, a pole hanging somewhere, rafters, those beams that support roofs, *shrug* They look very dynamic and gymnastic. In one of them they bring their knees up which is an exercise people do for hip flexion and abdominal strength. This combines it in a useful way to work endurance for all of the body, which is cool.

[slik]

Lol I still don't think what those chicks were doing can even be considered pulls/chins. More like jerk-ups or something :tongue:. Try to pass with that in a military fitness test.. I'm doing clean, normal chins and pulls.

[Ashtar]

Again, they said they were variants on pullups, they even had special names for them. They're an endurance workout which uses the whole body to pull up. It's kind of like criticizing someone doing a clean and press for using their legs to help them get the bar overhead.

[dogzer]

There's actually nothing wrong with their form at all.

The girls are doing the pulls perfectly.

You'll notice that the info says they are demonstrating variations aimed at maximizing repetitions. They'll definately get more this way. They make it a full-body exercise aimed at developing endurance and skill.

Indeed, doing it this way probably is faster and uses less energy. It's a thing we should be able to do even if we choose to do stricter isolating pullups for pure strength.

That makes sense to me. The way they are doing is only more aerobic and they work with their whole body. It's like two diferent workouts and it doesnt have to be wrong, unless it were harmful for your spine or something.

I mean, ok i still hate those little fuckers that do the leggy jumpy thing to get more reps out of it, but it doesnt mean they arent probably getting a great workout.

[Steve]

Again, they said they were variants on pullups, they even had special names for them. They're an endurance workout which uses the whole body to pull up. It's kind of like criticizing someone doing a clean and press for using their legs to help them get the bar overhead.

No, it's not.

"I am doing a variation of push ups to maximize my reps."

*does push ups against the wall*