Inner Thigh Muscle...

[wakka2nice]

is there any way i can build inner thigh muscle w/o the use of a machine?

[Benji]

Squats. Pistols.

[Syn]

branle it up

[compleks]

Squats or deads with a wide stance.

[mr popular]

I squat with a wide stance and my inner thighs are so large they actually scrape together and chafe when i walk around normally =(

[Dobi]

I do pistols with a wide stance and my inner thighs are so large. when i contract them, they push my legs directly into a sidesplit.

[Rahf]

Pistols with a wide stance eh? Got your supporting leg firm on the wall?

I want to be able to do a sidesplit! :agony:

[Dobi]

no wall, my pistols look like this: ( freestanding )
http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/3D4Y4.jpg
don't think about physics, it's all balance :tongue:

[Casper]

How about getting some weights for ankles, strap them on and just do like side kicks or raise leg up and slowly go down

[Rahf]

Ankle weights :agony:

[Phil D]

How about getting some weights for ankles, strap them on and just do like side kicks or raise leg up and slowly go down

that would work your abbductors (on the outside of your leg) not your adductors (on the inside of your leg)!

[mr popular]

The real question is why are you asking this to TricksTutorials, the majority of whom are teenage idiots with thighs no bigger than their swizzel dicks, that wouldn't know the difference between a vagina and a barbell because they've never touched either one.

Antoine, jujimufu, or Jan would probably have a good answer. Although chances are exceedingly good their answer would be to squat.

ankle weights?

whatever happened to survival of the fittest... i swear to fucking christ...

[Benji]

The real question is why are you asking this to TricksTutorials, the majority of whom are teenage idiots with thighs no bigger than their swizzel dicks, that wouldn't know the difference between a vagina and a barbell because they've never touched either one.

Antoine, jujimufu, or Jan would probably have a good answer. Although chances are exceedingly good their answer would be to squat.

ankle weights?

whatever happened to survival of the fittest... i swear to fucking christ...


Yea because it's impossible for any one of the thousands of members on this forum to know how to target the inner thigh muscle. It's not rocket science.

You're being a dumbass.

[pete_man_man]

http://www.google.com

[Flowers]

Penis?

[chicanerous]

The real question is why are you asking this to TricksTutorials, the majority of whom are teenage idiots with thighs no bigger than their swizzel dicks, that wouldn't know the difference between a vagina and a barbell because they've never touched either one.

Antoine, jujimufu, or Jan would probably have a good answer. Although chances are exceedingly good their answer would be to squat.

ankle weights?

whatever happened to survival of the fittest... i swear to fucking christ...

:sad:

[compleks]

Yeah, because it was such a difficult question.

[anfeyd]

Obviously. Mr. Popular's knowledge is so grand it is now beyond our comprehension. We are mere peons in his presence.

[Steve]

The only person who seems to have any idea what he's talking about is looping dragon. With that said, there's no point to training adductors, now die.

[chicanerous]

I squat with a wide stance and my inner thighs are so large they actually scrape together and chafe when i walk around normally =(
I congratulate you for finally achieving this most basic level of thigh development.

[Fanya]

Yo Steven, are you 5' 8'' or 169cm? Those are two different heights.

[Ashtar]

I think if you did a pistol like that you'd tip over unless you held some sort of counterweight.

[Dobi]

I think if you did a pistol like that you'd tip over unless you held some sort of counterweight.
o rly? :wink:

@mr popular: yes you are right. compleks or chicanerous for example (but also many others here ) don't know a shit about training :dead:

[stony_wayz]

I think the main abbductors are ussually UFO's stealling cows and shit

[Casper]

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/618/qegrgwsoo6.png

[chicanerous]

I think the main abbductors are ussually UFO's stealling cows and shit
Haha. :good:

[mr popular]

I congratulate you for finally achieving this most basic level of thigh development.

Thank you! =)

in 6-8 months i'll be over 200lbs, at which point i'll make even more condescending posts because i will feel superior to most people on the planet

[mr popular]

o rly? :wink:

@mr popular: yes you are right. compleks or chicanerous for example (but also many others here ) don't know a shit about training :dead:


Chicanerous does a great job, but I have yet to see any pictures or videos that I've requested from Complex, and he tends to tout compound movements and fullbody workouts like a t-nation nut hugger, so I don't take any training advice from him.

Seems to be an intelligent guy otherwise tho.

I saw some videos of Chicanerous on YouTube and was very impressed with his form actually. Also, he had strong lifts. So I stalk him, along with Antoine, Jujimufu, Jan, and Steve -- reading their previous posts to gain insight and learn from people who have achieved things I want to achieve.

UH OH DOES THAT MAKE ME A CREEP!?

kind of.

~Brian

[chicanerous]

Thank you! =)

in 6-8 months i'll be over 200lbs, at which point i'll make even more condescending posts because i will feel superior to most people on the planet
Excellent. :wicked:

[Ashtar]

Also, doing that V-stretch against the wall helps exhaust those muscles in a stretched position, even more so the wider you spread your legs, and if you're wearing ankle weights. Increases flexibility too! Although somewhat dangerous and probably easy to injury if you overdo it, and if you actually go to failure might have trouble bringing them up if you had very heavy weights on them.

In Kurz' video that used to be here on TT years ago I remember he had these crazy shoes that had plates attached to them, what were they, 20-30 lbs? Shit.

[compleks]

but I have yet to see any pictures or videos that I've requested from Complex, and he tends to tout compound movements and fullbody workouts like a t-nation nut hugger, so I don't take any training advice from him.

I have a thing against posting pictures / videos of myself on the internet, and in particular on TT.

I never visit T-Nation.

I recommend compound movements and full body routines, because like you said, "the majority of whom are teenage idiots with thighs no bigger than their swizzel dicks, that wouldn't know the difference between a vagina and a barbell because they've never touched either one.".

If the demographic here was different, then I would adjust my advice.

[chicanerous]

I have a thing against posting pictures / videos of myself on the internet, and in particular on TT.

I never visit T-Nation.

I recommend compound movements and full body routines, because like you said, "the majority of whom are teenage idiots with thighs no bigger than their swizzel dicks, that wouldn't know the difference between a vagina and a barbell because they've never touched either one.".

If the demographic here was different, then I would adjust my advice.
Yeah.

In contrast, I visit T-Nation quite regularly and have been touting Thibaudeau's strength and power training book frequently. So, that assertion doesn't really make sense. Most of the time we have the exact same advice or one of us just expands on the others. So, it doesn't really make sense to single you out because of any of that.

[Fanya]

T-Nation has a lot of good information but they give you like 10 different articles a week and every one is like "If you just follow the stuff that I say in this article you will be bigger and stronger and happier!!! Disregard everything else you read except for this!"

It's pretty lame if you ask me.

[chicanerous]

T-Nation has a lot of good information but they give you like 10 different articles a week and every one is like "If you just follow the stuff that I say in this article you will be bigger and stronger and happier!!! Disregard everything else you read except for this!"

It's pretty lame if you ask me.
Yes, it's called marketing and I will never understand people who are bothered by it.

T-Nation, like the many other resources out there, exists in order to sell more products. Somewhere along the line people forget this. Since these articles are free, the profit comes from the website traffic and people who are gullible enough to believe whatever they read (including that this or that supplement must be used). In the case of books, you usually don't find this, but that's because you had to pay for the book in the first place. Information hardly ever comes without a price and freedom of information is a pipe dream.

If you dislike the forums, I can understand that. But, I can't understand people who dislike T-Nation itself (e.g. the articles and training advice from various experts). Almost invariably the people who don't like it cite the marketing. All I can say to that is that these people are complete imbeciles because they can't see the value of the information that they are receiving. Instead, they're living in their own little worlds where they attached some sort of negative, childish resistance to marketing that is completely at odds with the reality we exist in.

I'm not saying the website offers any sort of incredible, breakthroughs in our knowledge of weight-training or conditioning, but rather that there is a wealth of useful information there if you're willing to man up and discard petty illusions.

---

My opinion on bodybuilding.com, however, is quite different. That site is largely a shit hole because there's absolutely no quality control. It's true that there are experts that contribute there, but the vast majority of the information comes completely out of the asses of whomever cares to write it.

[Steve]

Yo Steven, are you 5' 8'' or 169cm? Those are two different heights.

I'm 173 cm haha

[Fanya]

chicanerous, I think you misunderstood me a little. I value the information I'm able to get from the site, I just think it's stupid that they expect us to believe everything. Anyone with a brain should be able to tell that some of the stuff they claim on that site is bullshit. Really, in weightlifting the only rule is to do what works for you. And the only way to find out what that is, is to get in the fucking gym and test it all out. For example, I make great gains going to failure. Other people don't. That's all I'm saying, man.

[chicanerous]

chicanerous, I think you misunderstood me a little. I value the information I'm able to get from the site, I just think it's stupid that they expect us to believe everything. Anyone with a brain should be able to tell that some of the stuff they claim on that site is bullshit. Really, in weightlifting the only rule is to do what works for you. And the only way to find out what that is, is to get in the fucking gym and test it all out. For example, I make great gains going to failure. Other people don't. That's all I'm saying, man.
Who expects you to believe everything? You're projecting that belief.

If anything, I feel exactly the opposite. I can't count the times I've seen two completely contradictory articles up at once -- if that isn't promoting finding your own way then I don't know what it is. Adherence to the training principles of any one author can be dogmatic, but if you're merely there to glean information from the site on the whole (as you seem to be), you shouldn't feel that expectation.

Also, I didn't mean to make it seem like I'm speaking directly to you at the end of the last post. That's mostly just ranting.

[compleks]

As usual I agree with everything Chicanerous has said.

I used to be much more useful around here, but Chic. has most of that covered, which allows me to talk alot more shit. I don't know what would happen if he left.

Also, Mr. Popular is still upset that I denied his request for pictures. He thinks I must be some fat slob, or some skinny twig, therefor my advice is irrelevant.

[Fanya]

Who expects you to believe everything? You're projecting that belief.

If anything, I feel exactly the opposite. I can't count the times I've seen two completely contradictory articles up at once -- if that isn't promoting finding your own way then I don't know what it is. Adherence to the training principles of any one author can be dogmatic, but if you're merely there to glean information from the site on the whole (as you seem to be), you shouldn't feel that expectation.

Also, I didn't mean to make it seem like I'm speaking directly to you at the end of the last post. That's mostly just ranting.

True, I am merely there to glean information... So no, I don't feel that expectation. However I still feel that the general attitude of the site is off-center. Let's put it this way: I concur with what you're saying, but I also think that the site sometimes puts for a few too many different ideologies at once. Now, you may think that what I'm saying here is contradictory, because I think you're claiming that that's what the site is all about. In a sense, it is. But if one were new to the game of lifting, I think that it would be overwhelming at first to try and make sense of everything that's presented. It takes a certain amount of common sense (that some people do indeed lack) in order to sift through what actually applies to one's self when reading that site.

Now, I'm not sure if I've come around in a big circle here without actually saying anything that's intelligent. I probably could have done without my original comment anyway.

[mr popular]

I dislike T-nation for a very simple reason, and it's the same reason that I dislike most things..

there are lots of people there.

that's really it.

having more than say, i dunno.... 8 people in one place, makes it a breeding ground for stupidity

I actually am a fan of Thib, though. Also, Charles Poliquin is someone I pay attention to. But the only thing that really bothers me consistently about the information provided by t-nation.... is you get articles about how to do things right, and get big and strong and muscular... from biomechanics coaches who don't really look like they lift weights, and athletic coaches that aren't bodybuilders and never will be...

It's as though there was a basketball website where the majority of the people writing articles about how to play basketball the best way, were chiropractors and golfers.

And you can call me irrational or idiotic or whatever you want, i don't care, but I really do not accept anyone's advice as far as bodybuilding goes, unless I can see a picture or video of them, and decide they have achieved goals that I also want to achieve. That is just my way of being systematic in learning and getting information, and it works very well for me.

I didn't take Chicanerous' advice on weightlifting, for example, until i saw a picture of his physique and saw a video of him lifting more weight than I could.

So Compleks, I'm not upset or anything... haha. And in fact I don't even dislike you, I think you're a fairly intelligent person, but unless I have any reason whatsoever to pay attention to the suggestions you give.... well.... what would YOU do?

I can't really understand being against others seeing a photograph of you tho... but maybe I'm just biased because my ass is up in at least 2 different places at any given time on this website.

But in general i make people not like me, so i usually avoid giving advice of my own in most cases... haha

~Brian

[compleks]

It's cool, doesn't bother me. I understand where you are coming from, to a certain extent.

If I do decide to post pics ( possibly nudes ), you will be the first to know :wink:

[Rahf]

I enjoy having Chicanerous and Compleks around. Mostly because the educative standpoint in a thread gets raised by a mile when affected by their posts :cool:

I couldn't care less about pictures of Compleks just to see if he is a big beef or strong or whatnot. True that it would strengthen his credibility but who cares? This is a forum and the people who write advanced words without room for different interpretation. And also makes sense at the same time win threads. Plus the guy's Australien! Australians rule!!

I may not be the best at english since it is not my native language but I never have ANY problems interpreting posts by these guys. If I find a word that is alien to me I just skip over to some encyclopaedia or google and presto!

Regarding t-nation. My biggest problem would be to find what I am looking for at the moment there. The t-nation database is HUGE! It feels like you're staring at a library knowing that you have to read all the books and judge what to use from each one.

[compleks]

Your English is far better than most 'natives'. :good:

[Lobo]

Yes, it's called marketing and I will never understand people who are bothered by it.

T-Nation, like the many other resources out there, exists in order to sell more products. Somewhere along the line people forget this. Since these articles are free, the profit comes from the website traffic and people who are gullible enough to believe whatever they read (including that this or that supplement must be used). In the case of books, you usually don't find this, but that's because you had to pay for the book in the first place. Information hardly ever comes without a price and freedom of information is a pipe dream.

If you dislike the forums, I can understand that. But, I can't understand people who dislike T-Nation itself (e.g. the articles and training advice from various experts). Almost invariably the people who don't like it cite the marketing. All I can say to that is that these people are complete imbeciles because they can't see the value of the information that they are receiving. Instead, they're living in their own little worlds where they attached some sort of negative, childish resistance to marketing that is completely at odds with the reality we exist in.

I'm not saying the website offers any sort of incredible, breakthroughs in our knowledge of weight-training or conditioning, but rather that there is a wealth of useful information there if you're willing to man up and discard petty illusions.

---

My opinion on bodybuilding.com, however, is quite different. That site is largely a shit hole because there's absolutely no quality control. It's true that there are experts that contribute there, but the vast majority of the information comes completely out of the asses of whomever cares to write it.
They're not honest about it though, I've seen it said there before, something along the lines of "oh our main priority is to provide a resource, the supplements, book deals, etc. are just to make some money on the side." which is obviously bullshit, considering every article mentions a Biotest product or the author's latest book. I also recall one of the "Atomic Dog" columns (which are the absolute worst middle-aged, faux-macho crap I've ever read) where the guy was ranting about how ungrateful some of their readers were for having the audacity to read the site without "supporting" them (i.e. buying the products they're hawking).

Yes, there are definitely some guys that know what they're talking about and write some decent articles there, but there's so much other dross, like the aformentioned Atomic Dog and the whole tough guy pretence in general - for the most part they're a bunch of coaches and professors in their 40's for fuck's sake, who do they think they're kidding?

[anfeyd]

And you can call me irrational or idiotic or whatever you want, i don't care, but I really do not accept anyone's advice as far as bodybuilding goes, unless I can see a picture or video of them, and decide they have achieved goals that I also want to achieve. That is just my way of being systematic in learning and getting information, and it works very well for me.

I didn't take Chicanerous' advice on weightlifting, for example, until i saw a picture of his physique and saw a video of him lifting more weight than I could.

So Compleks, I'm not upset or anything... haha. And in fact I don't even dislike you, I think you're a fairly intelligent person, but unless I have any reason whatsoever to pay attention to the suggestions you give.... well.... what would YOU do?

I can't really understand being against others seeing a photograph of you tho... but maybe I'm just biased because my ass is up in at least 2 different places at any given time on this website.

But in general i make people not like me, so i usually avoid giving advice of my own in most cases... haha

~Brian

As compleks said, your reasoning is somewhat sound, but I think it shows some ignorance on your part. For instance, Chicanerous wrote a guide for tricking, yet he does not trick. Does that mean his guide is worthless? No, because he has a great deal of knowledge about lifting and he knows what aspects that a trickster needs, he can create a general guideline.

Certainly if a trickster wrote an article on weight training for tricking that had the same knowledge base as Chicanerous it may be a bit more insightful because of the personal experience, but at the same time you shouldn't throw his guide out of the window.

I think an important part of learning is being able to sift through different ideas and then be able to have different view points on things. I think you're being too close minded.

[Rahf]

Your English is far better than most 'natives'. :good:

I noticed a couple of times while down there.. Scared me abit sometimes :tongue:

Noosa is still better than Byron!

[Trixter]

As compleks said, your reasoning is somewhat sound, but I think it shows some ignorance on your part. For instance, Chicanerous wrote a guide for tricking, yet he does not trick. Does that mean his guide is worthless? No, because he has a great deal of knowledge about lifting and he knows what aspects that a trickster needs, he can create a general guideline.

Certainly if a trickster wrote an article on weight training for tricking that had the same knowledge base as Chicanerous it may be a bit more insightful because of the personal experience, but at the same time you shouldn't throw his guide out of the window.

I think an important part of learning is being able to sift through different ideas and then be able to have different view points on things. I think you're being too close minded.

This post was quite irrevelent. He knows lots of stuff about weightlifting, therefore he wrote a guide on weightlifting. Aiming the muscles a trickster would need.

Just my two cents.

I also follow Chicanerous, compleks, Nighthunter and mr.popular's info/videos in secret and try them in the gym. ogre:

[mr popular]

anfeyd: Being "open minded" has no value in and of itself when what you are already doing is giving you the maximum results you want.

I just believe in being systematic.

[jan]

I congratulate you for finally achieving this most basic level of thigh development.

Hahaha, this made me laugh:)

[Steve]

You idiots

[anfeyd]

This post was quite irrevelent. He knows lots of stuff about weightlifting, therefore he wrote a guide on weightlifting. Aiming the muscles a trickster would need.

Just my two cents.

I also follow Chicanerous, compleks, Nighthunter and mr.popular's info/videos in secret and try them in the gym. ogre:

I was replying to Mr. Popular because he only takes advice from people who show through pictures/video they use their knowledge fully. I don't blame him- and I said that at the beginning of my post.

I have no problem with the way Mr. Popular handle's things; if he's making progress and advancing in ways that he wants to, then great, but I was just offering a suggestion.

[chicanerous]

You idiots
Haha.