Moonkick question

[broertjetim]

just what is the "best" way to do a moonkick?

when taking of with the J step do you have to open your chest does that helps the moonkick look better or something.

i really want to perfect my moonkick coz i fucking have trouble with this one.
so:
-opening your chest or not?
-when you take of, look to the side and jump as much UP as you can
-when seeing the ground, open you chest to land as much upright as posible?

my moonkick : http://video.google.nl/videouploadfi...444ac8bdcc37fe

please some desent help :p!!

[Benji]

Link doesn't work.

[broertjetim]

Link doesn't work.

edit: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=7111339282714836979

[JKT]

Thats not bad, maybe a bit more floaty
but in terms of set up, I prefer a bkick or scoot.

[broertjetim]

your not helping me JKT :p

[Benji]

Haha, that looks real good.

I always heard to open your chest, lean back at a 45 degree angle and kick your leg at a 45 degree angle. Like, inbetween vertical and horizontal. I think your moonkick looks just fine, though.

[broertjetim]

yea maybe it looks fine but i want the right teq. once and for all now:p

i'm sick changing my moonkick 3 times in a wheek.

[Benji]

It looks good. I'd say all thats left is to just practice.

[Shaolin.dk]

Nice Bro!

btw Benji thats not a moonkick, u have to kick more with the last leg.

[Benji]

Ahhhh, terminology is always so confusing. It's not a gainer flash either because it's at a slant. I'll just keep it as moonkick for now.

I'm also pretty sure a moonkick is a gianer flash at a 45 degree angle. I think the kick at the end isn't really counted anymore.

[sesshoumaru]

yea maybe it looks fine but i want the right teq...

I haven't seen a Moonkick from that apoach before, but the actual technique isn't far off.

The main porblem is that you're not kicking that back leg through. When you kick your right leg towards the sky, your left leg should chamber slightly. As you head rotates beneath the hips, launch a hook kick with you left leg and prepare to land on the right.

A Moonkick looks like a slant Gainer, but it isn't a slant Gainer. For aesthetic reasons, you want to avoid learning/using slant Gainers as much as possible...

[Djp]

Avoid learning slant gainer eh? I get confused alot when looking at gainer flashes as i see so many different types, some where the leg and hips go directly over the head which is what i thought a gainer flash was, Some where the hips are above the head level at a angle (a slandt gainer?) and then kick the moons where the leg goes directly over the side? can someone clear this up and also why shudn't one learn slant gainers?

[sesshoumaru]

I didn't say that you shouldn't...I said to avoid it if you can. If you can't keep your hips "square" on your Gainer-flash, then you'll have to resort to having a "slanted" one.

I recommend not learning slant Gainers intentionally, because they're ugly in comparison.

[poliver]

What is Moonkick if it's not a slant gainer? I just don't get the difference...

[sesshoumaru]

I'll do an exampler this weekend...

[TartanPajamas]

I use slant gainers to do corks, which is why I feel they are extremely useful.

As for using a hook kick in your moonkick, I don't feel that it is a requirement (maybe it used to be, but the term has evolved). I define slant gainers as tucked moonkicks, and moonkicks as slanted gainer flashkicks, and moonkick hooks as moonkick...well...hooks.

[Djp]

I didn't say that you shouldn't...I said to avoid it if you can. If you can't keep your hips "square" on your Gainer-flash, then you'll have to resort to having a "slanted" one.

I recommend not learning slant Gainers intentionally, because they're ugly in comparison.

OK thanks for the advice, the exampler would be great thanks

[Swartz]

Ahhhh, terminology is always so confusing. It's not a gainer flash either because it's at a slant. I'll just keep it as moonkick for now.

I'm also pretty sure a moonkick is a gianer flash at a 45 degree angle. I think the kick at the end isn't really counted anymore.
Of course it is. People new to this are just being stupid and making it what they want. A 45 degree angled gainer flash is just a bad gainer flash, nothing more, nothing less. Moonkick has the second dropping kick in it. End of story.

Haha, I'm sorry it's just a constant annoyance to hear this all the time from people here. Like I said in another thread before, this wasn't an issue a few years ago. Seems only recently everyone's calling a bad gainer flash a moonkick. Ignore it. It's a beginning trickster's misconception.