bkick/btwist question [Archive]

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 08:05 AM

when you kick up your first leg in a bkick or btwist which muscles do you feel contract? eg. it could be:

the hamstring
the glute
the lower back
a mixture of these
none or all of these

i think i concentrate too much on the hamstring. the foot of my lifting leg is still the highest point of my body on take off but the knee is often left low and lagging; the leg bent at 90 degrees.

as a remedy iv recently been trying bkicks with straight legs concentrating only on exploding through the glutes but when i do this i have tremendous difficulty gaining height (my "normal" bkicks are pretty floaty right now) as well as not being able to point my toes. so theyr kinda fugly haha

any tips from people? =)

Reza

Mar-07-07, 08:22 AM

since you already know how important it is to lift your backleg, dont forget to simultaneously bring your upperbody up with it as high as it. this is where height comes from.

RobakaLefty

Mar-07-07, 08:28 AM

waz up, I just learnt how to do a b-twist

kinetic

Mar-07-07, 10:33 AM

waz up, I just learnt how to do a b-twist

yeah lol

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:29 PM

thanks for all the help guys LOL

Flowers

Mar-07-07, 03:31 PM

Find a style that works for you. Try lots and lots of different techniques. Hell it might be in your arms.

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:34 PM

haha yeah.... i was just curious as to what muscles you consciously contract in your legs.

Flowers

Mar-07-07, 03:36 PM

hmmmm I never thought about it.

On the same train of thought, do you keep your eyes open during tricks?

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:37 PM

yes. roffle

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 03:38 PM

i just try and kick my self in the back of the head, even if that means hooking it over bent...

the wierd thing is, you don't feel any muscles really contract...

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:39 PM

*steals pete's tricks*

Flowers

Mar-07-07, 03:41 PM

Alot of the girls I see tumble close their eyes haha

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 03:42 PM

*forgets what tricking is*

seriously though, don't just try and throw the leg up. consciously try and throw your foot at your head. i only just realised this is what i do, just a minute ago

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 03:43 PM

Alot of the girls I see tumble close their eyes haha

roffle, do they die a lot?

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:44 PM

excellent. thanks pete. =)

haha tumbling with your eyes closed may be a lil easier than like throwing a gainerfull or something....

actually i think sheep told me he closes his eyes on btwist-dubgfulls hahaha

Flowers

Mar-07-07, 03:46 PM

i never close my eyes. Then again I don't like to when kissing either.

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 03:46 PM

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:46 PM

thats like sleeping with your eyes open

edit: haha that made me think of matt's old samps in his garage....

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 03:51 PM

completely off topic but, dude, you were right about juji man... immenseness i say!!!!

shengoikee

Mar-07-07, 03:54 PM

haha i know dude....

again off topic but im capturing footage and we PWN

pete_man_man

Mar-07-07, 04:02 PM

haha i know dude....

again off topic but im capturing footage and we PWN

even more off topic but what vowels is the word PWN missing? is it an abbreviation of an actual word or what?

btw yes you do

Flowers

Mar-07-07, 07:08 PM

it's leet speak for ownage.

Nin-Tu

Mar-08-07, 10:09 AM

Dragonic MiKe

Mar-08-07, 10:17 AM

I really don't think about contracting anything. Just, going up, and spinning hard. :) And a little bit of trying to stay horizontal.

I think sometimes if you try to focus on very small parts of a trick you begin to over complicate it.

Up High >>> Spinny Spin. Don't think about contracting aids.

Matt R

Mar-08-07, 10:52 AM

man i always trick with my eyes shut haha

no aerrial awareness ftw!

shengoikee

Mar-08-07, 10:58 AM

Here's how you land the btwist... Watch some videos... Practice it (knowing you will mess up) a few times. Wait a day. Then spend time practicing just spinning as high and as fast as you can without really trying to land to feel how it should all spin. Wait a day. Start practicing to do the btiwst correctly / practice to just spin. Not sure if this is the best way, but it worked for me.
i can do btwists haha....
I really don't think about contracting anything. Just, going up, and spinning hard. :) And a little bit of trying to stay horizontal.

I think sometimes if you try to focus on very small parts of a trick you begin to over complicate it.

Up High >>> Spinny Spin. Don't think about contracting aids.

thanks mike. =)

RobakaLefty

Mar-09-07, 08:13 AM

the thing about a b-twist is the steps, you got to know the mechanics before you try it. When I first tried it, I would just spin off, never thought I would be able to do it at all, until I came to this site! The main thing about a b-twist is that back leg going up and you getting behind yourself after the takeoff. I learnt the b-twist in two tries after following the steps! Just watch Jujimufu's b-twist exampler video clip. And also read the instrustion on the step-by-step b-twist. "Don't think, just do." (Bruce Lee)

shengoikee

Mar-09-07, 08:15 AM

oh dear. people really got the wrong idea with this thread haha....

WilliamT

Mar-09-07, 12:05 PM

When I Btwist, I do a dip and by the time my torso is facing the direction I am traveling my chest is parallel to the ground. Then I come up out of my dip and throw my chest up so I am no longer horizontal(at this point I am facing perpendicular to the direction I am Going). Then I lift my leg straight up real hard and feel the strain on my glute. my legs then catch up to my body and allow me to achieve greater height than if I just entered the move horizontally.
Was this the kind of answer you were looking for?

shengoikee

Mar-09-07, 12:18 PM

haha yeah man kinda :good:

i was thinking more "glutes" when i made this. like that'd be a common response.

i pretty much fixed my btwist now anyways. =)

biyak

Mar-09-07, 12:22 PM

well actually you can improve it by using your shoulders i think its
a mixture of every thing ! and if you want to improve it a vid would help ^^

Kyukodo Gaz

Mar-09-07, 12:31 PM

I definitely agree with glutes dude. hammy would just rotate you forwards. You need to feel that contraction in your butt and lower back (nice arch = nice lift). that's what Liang always says anyway, and he knows his shit.

pete_man_man

Mar-11-07, 06:28 AM

haha yeah man kinda :good:

i was thinking more "glutes" when i made this. like that'd be a common response.

i pretty much fixed my btwist now anyways. =)

YOU BETTER HAVE MISTER DAVE!!!!! lol

shengoikee

Mar-11-07, 06:36 AM

pretty much MR PETE hahahaha

it was actually my arms :pirate:

today at the gym will own. i know it now.

pete_man_man

Mar-11-07, 06:39 AM

pretty much MR PETE hahahaha

it was actually my arms :pirate:

today at the gym will own. i know it now.

you been tricking outside ze jeem since wednesday? ze wezzer has been pretty oo la la non?

shengoikee

Mar-11-07, 06:49 AM

fantooosic

i did alllll my stuff on grass haha =)

Workerz

Mar-11-07, 06:59 AM

Wow you guys think about your tricking in such depth haha I don't conciously think of any muscels I just lift my damn leg. :P

pete_man_man

Mar-12-07, 03:45 AM

Wow you guys think about your tricking in such depth haha I don't conciously think of any muscels I just lift my damn leg. :P

and that's why you own our asses