Ready to Transition. (Aerial)

[Shear]

Well today I read Juji's article on some theories about improving tricks and saw that speed + blocking are a few of the things I had not been implementing well in my cartwheels.... On a good day I could usually do a 1 handed cartwheel (with my dominant first hand) but after reading that and practicing a little I was able to finally do a One handed cartwheel with my left hand (second) and I did a few dive and hotfloor cartwheel to boot. I feel as though I could transition to an aerial with a bit of practice at this point and was wondering if any of you have any tips (yes i've seen tutorials) but anything from personal experience or a way to keep my hands from springing down to "save me" when im in the air, thanks
-Shear

[fusion]

so u mean get out of the habit of putting your hands down? usally they will go down because u wont make it, but sometimes just because your used to it but thats not likly, but anyway i suppose getting a crash mat and just seeing how far u go and what happens if you dont put your hands down, you will probably end up on your side on close to landing but it could get that habbit away, and genral tips would be really really with all your effort drive that first leg and quick and as hard as you can untill you land as that first leg is what i think is most important in an aerial

[Yuen Rob]

Reach foward instead of down.

Cartwheels involve falling downwards and breaking the fall with the arms. For an aerial you should be diving foward a bit more. Look at the pics in Juji's tutorial again and notice that as he's taking off his upper-torso is going foward and not down towards the ground... thus, he has no need to place his hands down.

And to get rid of the fear... go crash on purpose a few times.

[Serial]

Also whip your lifting leg around hard, that helped me get aerials alot more powerful. Just try different things and see what works.

[Shear]

hmm yea im going to try driving upwards even harder than before "which got me the one handed" but yea my hands dont come down because im going to crash they just come down and its gay and its like natural reaction because i know im not going to crash (on one handed) but the other one still springs down and i have to yank it back up before ground, i have the same problem with my 540, my non kicking leg yanks down to "save me" when i am no where near crashing...

[MooziX]

From what I've read you got similar to the one I had when learning aerials. Crashing actually helps, probably it's even more effective than trying to get rid of the habit of putting hands down just by forcing yourself. When you crash few times your brain realizes there's absolutely nothing to be afraid of. Therefore - no need to use hands. Worked for me. Good luck.

[Karuge]

Just......force your hands to stay up....that's what i did:tongue: ...it's pretty easy to land that way....and USE.YOUR.JUMPING.POWER!!:smile:

If you have decent cartwheels, you should be able to learn this in less than 2 weeks like i did...train your dive cartwheels alot if you'd want to and if that won't help............just crash.....it WON'T HURT!!.......*edits for MooziX* At all :tongue:

[MooziX]

............just crash.....it WON'T HURT!!.......

At all.

[Shear]

:) thx everyone, I'm gunna go out there and crash today >.> wish me luck.
(I'll take a camara and post crashes ^^)

[Frostbite]

Also whip your lifting leg around hard, that helped me get aerials alot more powerful. Just try different things and see what works.

in your avatar, you are doing a round off-arabian and not a cart-front...i think

[Karuge]

:) thx everyone, I'm gunna go out there and crash today >.> wish me luck.
(I'll take a camara and post crashes ^^)

Hey remember to try the tricks as hard as you can..give it all you'v got....and also...don't bail too much or it will become a...sort of a habit :dead:

[dong]

One thing I really found useful is thinking of yourself as (this is gonna sound really strange) a kind of pendulum...its motion is most efficient if the lever arm is relatively straight. As a result, I ended up dividing the motion into the following:

1) The leading leg is whipping up (and straight)- this provides upwards momentum.
2) The jumping leg is...jumping. Hard (took me a while to break the habit of just rolling off it).

I lump these two together- if somebody pushed the pendulum, this is where the force comes from. The whole thing about blocking etc. is about considering the angles at which force is applied, in this case more perpendicular the net force is to the ground, the bigger the boost (proportional to the sine of the angle, ignoring friction, for you physics buffs).

Your body constitutes the aforementioned "lever arm", and, if you look at samplers, the head seems to hover around the same point, since the body is being kept parallel, not bending down (like in a lazy cartwheel...that's why people always say reach forward). If you lean down (I used to do this to speed up rotation), you'll undermine the leading leg's role, and you'll kill height (no stall!) The reason I called it a pendulum is because the hips seem to travel -up and over- the head.

Finally when I had a sloppy side2side aerial going, I noticed that my hips were twisting like crazy when I landed, and usually awkwardly to boot. This is because my chest and therefore hips were not opening sufficiently after the initial lift (and this made my arms look FUGMO as a side consequence). Bringing the shoulders flush with your direction of travel is really handy (especially if you want to move on to aerial switch) and after some trial-and-error I figured this was the essential difference between my almost screwing my up ankle doing some weird almost bastard webster-like action...and sticking it like fucken sweet.

So basically use both legs hard, reach forward to keep the body firm, roll shoulders to flush, and the hips should go up and over and the leg under nice and comfy. Good luck.

[Shear]

Thanks everyone, especially dong :) the reason i havn't submitted footage yet is because its raining like crazy and i slightly overextened my hip flexor (i think) so im giving it a couple days tomarrow i will try if weather is nice :)

[Karuge]

Same problem here :tongue: :sad:

[Dave]

I did it off a height prob 30cm or so and I intended to do a cartwheel or 1 handed cartwheel. I did it with so much force though that my hands missed the ground altogether. So ive just been progressing since then.. to ground with no height

[adrianeline]

:wink: Reach foward instead of down.

Cartwheels involve falling downwards and breaking the fall with the arms. For an aerial you should be diving foward a bit more. Look at the pics in Juji's tutorial again and notice that as he's taking off his upper-torso is going foward and not down towards the ground... thus, he has no need to place his hands down.

And to get rid of the fear... go crash on purpose a few times.

i have found of having thrown ur arms out is really healpfull dude im almost landing thanks to that lil problem in my aerials (even though its not my post i thank u)