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The Alien Elite
Mar-10-07, 10:26 PM
And I can't eat hardly anything. I feel like I have to starve myself. I have cravings constantly. I know alot of you, (if not most) don't even have to worry about this shit, and it PISSES ME OFF! So yea.

Anyone here a fatty-turned-tricker? I need some inspiration.

BTW, I still trick, I got my aerial today (yay), but it's just depressing when I think of all the things I wanna eat but can't.

P.S: While I'm thinking about it, I've been meaning to ask those who have naturally high metabolisms...why diet/eat healthy, if you never gain a pound anyway? Like, why avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup if you don't have a weight problem to begin with?

EDIT: My current weight is 127 LBs, and 28% BF

Syn
Mar-10-07, 10:37 PM
just eat more healthy shit you fat fuck and stop bitching about it on an internet forum


fuckin emo pussy animeholic sons of bitches

Trickstar
Mar-10-07, 10:45 PM
I'm worse than you. I still try. Starving yourself isn't a good way to get skinny. Yeah, I'm one of those lucky people who don't get curving for junk food. I actually get curvings for healthy things from time to time. Read the topics around the forums. I'm sure if you tried you can overcome your problems.

kristo
Mar-10-07, 11:05 PM
I'm not lucky.

I used to weigh 200 (at 6').

I'm dropped to about 155-160 lbs. 40 lbs during 1 summer, 10 the next.

I'm now about 175, with a bunch more muslce, and I'm 6'1". You can do it man. I still weigh myself every day, and I have a full body mirror in my roomt o keep tabs on my BFP.

You've just gotta keep at it. Honestly, you're off to a good start. I can't even aerial. You don't need to have a low BFP to trick. Just keep at it. I spent 3 years losing weight and training when i could have been tricking (of course I didn't know about it then). It's not about what kind of -shape- you're in. It really depends on your body-awareness.

There's a guy on these forums called "fattricks" or something similar, who's like 25 yrs old, and attempting corks and stuff. That was pretty inspirational.

compleks
Mar-10-07, 11:20 PM
My current weight is 127 LBs, and 28% BF

Is that even possible. Are you 3feet tall?

Heratat
Mar-10-07, 11:56 PM
Trust me: The cravings for the shit food go away. Soda.. sugar.. bagged shit.. fast food.. it all goes away. It's not hard to eat healthy, and despite what people tell you, you do not have to eat a freaking leaf of lettuce at every meal to loose weight. You'd be surprised at the large amounts of food I consume at each meal while still staying under my maintenance caloric intake when I'm cutting. Just stay away from anything that starts frozen and goes in a microwave -- eat everything "pure", that is: cook everything by hand.

Also, don't sit around and do nothing. Lift weights, run, trick, do whatever. The more active you are -- the more you do -- the better it is for you. If you're not wanting to puke by the end of your whatever-workout then you're not moving hard enough.

REST also. Despite what I said above, rest it also KEY. Pick a day to just sit back and do nothing. Don't fucking stuff your face, just don't do anything strenuous. Over training is a bitch. -- I do three hard days, one off day. I don't just set a day because I usually look forward to that day and end up stuffing my face. Mix it up. Keep it interesting.

Oh, and water. Get a gallon jug, fill it up in the morning and drink that bitch until it's empty at night.

kristo
Mar-10-07, 11:59 PM
Is that even possible. Are you 3feet tall?

Good point. That seemed weird to me.

FatTricks
Mar-11-07, 12:07 AM
hELLO. nATURALLY SLOW METABOLISM SIGNING IN....ON THE JOB AND READY TO EAT.

yUM.

oNwARdS.....

*DoEs fULL tWisTinG fACEpLAnt*

TartanPajamas
Mar-11-07, 12:26 AM
Juji once said he used to be somewhat overweight.

Inspiration enough for ya?

Sakanem
Mar-11-07, 01:18 AM
EDIT: My current weight is 127 LBs, and 28% BF

Is that even possible. Are you 3feet tall?

Good point. That seemed weird to me.

Perhaps he had his bones removed?

On a serious note: once you start getting into the healthy eating business (you do have to force yourself in the beginning), you will get to the point where you wouldn't even consider going to Burger King or some similar junk food crap place. Once you're used to healthy food, junk food will taste like junk. Once you overcome the urge to eat whatever springs to your mind, you've passed the hardest bit; it geets incredibly easy to maintain an eating standard that is way healthier than what you ate before :wink:

Trickstar
Mar-11-07, 01:34 AM
One of the pros, Dogen was overweight. It's nothing. Just try and keep at it and it gets easier.

Lukus
Mar-11-07, 06:06 AM
I was a fat ass..... still am.. Lol, BVUT JUST GOT ME B-twist swing thrus. Lol

just train man haha.... anything is possible haha :)

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 06:56 AM
28% BF at 127 lbs sounds pretty gnarly. That would mean that the rest of you is pretty much skin, bones and not much else.

dogzer
Mar-11-07, 07:29 AM
I used to be chubby when i was 18, i know what you are talking about unlike these genetically privileged characters. It all changed when i started jogging and learning about health and nutrition. Just dont believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet though. If an author is too ready to tell you to make radical changes on your diet, he might not care much about your health. Basicaly just remember that your diet should be balanced, there's no secret diet that'll make you thin. And dont start exercising too much too fast, freakish training that goes around here can only be acomplished after years of adaptation. Besides that google can be an excelent source of information for what you need.

Syn
Mar-11-07, 08:42 AM
Juji once said he used to be somewhat overweight.

Inspiration enough for ya?

haha, no he wasn't... unless it was when he was like 8

NightHunter
Mar-11-07, 09:05 AM
I'm fat

Yes, but you can lose weight. If you were thin, I think you'd still be an annoying, whiny, bitchy loser.

Nabil
Mar-11-07, 11:01 AM
i seriously believe that your problems would go away if you hit the weight room seriously for one year, even if your diet wasnt perfect..and infact i think all the fat people would have a lot less to worry about if they had some decent muscle on them.

Steve
Mar-11-07, 12:16 PM
Haha 127 pounds and 28% body fat is 35.5 pounds of fat. I'm 180 pounds at about 10% body fat, so in other words I have half your fat and nearly twice your lean mass. Kill yourself.

Trixter
Mar-11-07, 12:20 PM
Hahaha. I am 160 with 14,45% BF I lose too :) I AM SO FAT

Rigo
Mar-11-07, 01:25 PM
Ha ha! You can't be 127 lbs and be fat...That's just impossible...You would have to be 4.92 feet, for you to be considered just slightly fat. If that's the case, wheight is not you're main problem.

The Alien Elite
Mar-11-07, 01:51 PM
ah, shit guys, sorry. 217 LBs. 27% BF today. People who are helpful/supportive or w/e, thanks. All others, fuck you. I was just depressed last night cuz I got off wortk and wanted food so bad, but knew I couldn't get it.

Anyways, noone answered the other question: why diet and eat healthy if you don't have to worry about your weight?

Rigo
Mar-11-07, 01:53 PM
Because most people normally don't eat the right stuff, to get most from your training...And sometimes for cutting, sometimes for bulking...It's easier to reach your goals with the right diet.

Benji
Mar-11-07, 02:30 PM
Anyways, noone answered the other question: why diet and eat healthy if you don't have to worry about your weight?

Because with a proper diet, you can get more energy, more nutrients, build muscle easier, and become an overall healthier person. There's more to being healthy than how much fat you have.

Ted Stewart
Mar-11-07, 02:39 PM
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm fully grown, I'm 5'8" and 132lbs. I haven't varied outside the 130-135 lb range, ever. Over the last six months, my entire muscle tone has changed, but my weight remains constant.

I'm with Benji on this. Eating better makes me feel better, perform better, and generally be more healthy. That's more important than a number on a scale will ever be.

compleks
Mar-11-07, 03:24 PM
Yes, but you can lose weight. If you were thin, I think you'd still be an annoying, whiny, bitchy loser.

Welcome back, sunshine!

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 03:26 PM
Hell yeah! Welcome back Nighthunter, where you been?

And yeah, this thread is answered in post #23

dogzer
Mar-11-07, 03:40 PM
Healthy food and a lot of water give you the resources of energy you need, but you also have to feel stimulated.
For example if you go out running or bicycling you could take an mp3 player with you and listen to fast paced music of your choice, it can fill you with adrenaline and you'd work out much better.

Most people here are still very young and they dont know what it's like to start working out after the age of 18, the older you get the more dificult it gets to start.

You are 19 so you are in perfect timing to start working out and do weight lifting. If you over eat and you are doing weight lifting, you may gain fat but you are also gaining muscle.

Again it's important that even if you over eat, you get healthy balanced food. For exampe, if you over eat by eating sugar, it's all fat. But if you over eat by eating brown rice, beef, vegetables and stuff like that.. and you are training, you improve physically.
Boy I rock at advices... :juji:

Five
Mar-11-07, 03:58 PM
Most people here are still very young and they dont know what it's like to start working out after the age of 18.
WRONG! most people here are physicall active! twat

If you over eat and you are doing weight lifting, you may gain fat but you are also gaining muscle.
if you over eat you may gain fat... try definatly

For exampe, if you over eat by eating sugar, it's all fat.
sugar = carbs
carbs dont = fat
however yes if you eat carbs(sugars) and dont use them they will be converted to fat

But if you over eat by eating brown rice, beef, vegetables and stuff like that.. and you are training, you improve physically.
bullshit. if you excessivly over eat you become fat and your physical form decreases, so you are in fact, speaking out of your arse

Boy I rock at advices... :juji:
now that.. that is utter shit

Syn
Mar-11-07, 04:00 PM
umm, just about everything both of you said is opinion and not proven one way or the other

Five
Mar-11-07, 04:02 PM
besides me saying most people on TT are physically active, and dogzer is a twat... where is there opinion?

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 04:22 PM
I'd say Five still has the upper hand in this one. Although Dogzer has a point that many here are under 18. They're still physically active though.

Remember though, some studies say that sugar gets converted into fat while others say that it inhibits fat loss. Although how many of them there are I'd have to dig deeper and find out.

I'd be impressed if someone overate on vegetables.. Really.

And yer dogzer, you are a tard.

Five
Mar-11-07, 04:28 PM
And yer dogzer, you are a tard.

that's all i wanted confirmation on.. thank you rahf, you are a good man, a fair man, a better man than dogzer will ever even hope to bone.

Trickstar
Mar-11-07, 04:33 PM
ah, shit guys, sorry. 217 LBs. 27% BF today. People who are helpful/supportive or w/e, thanks. All others, fuck you. I was just depressed last night cuz I got off wortk and wanted food so bad, but knew I couldn't get it.

Anyways, noone answered the other question: why diet and eat healthy if you don't have to worry about your weight?

Don't get butt hurt from what those guys say. Anyways, it doesn't matter your weight. What matter is your fat to lean muscle ratio. Keep that in mind.

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 04:34 PM
If you get emotionally distressed from reading posts on TT you don't belong here.

Syn
Mar-11-07, 04:43 PM
besides me saying most people on TT are physically active, and dogzer is a twat... where is there opinion?

bullshit. if you excessivly over eat you become fat and your physical form decreases, so you are in fact, speaking out of your arse

no... if you excessively eat and you train you won't definitely become fat, especially if you burn off more calories than you eat, because then you will be losing weight

Five
Mar-11-07, 04:48 PM
Yes, true. This all lies in your definition of overeating, yours was obviously different to mine.

Syn
Mar-11-07, 04:54 PM
well most peoples definition of overeating is going over their normal caloric intake, but it can be counteracted by doing an activity that burns alot of calories per hour, like kayaking, you burn an average of 1000 calories per hour doing that... do that for 4 hours throughout the day and you'll be sure to lose fat

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 04:56 PM
well most peoples definition of overeating is going over their normal caloric intake, but it can be counteracted by doing an activity that burns alot of calories per hour, like kayaking, you burn an average of 1000 calories per hour doing that... do that for 4 hours throughout the day and you'll be sure to lose fat

Who the hell does 4 hour kayaking?

Overeating for me though is excessively overstepping our RDI.

Lukus
Mar-11-07, 04:59 PM
Uk tricker's say funny things. :P wish i was a twat.

Trickstar
Mar-11-07, 04:59 PM
Overeating is eating passed your nutriental limit for that day.

Rahf
Mar-11-07, 05:06 PM
Uk tricker's say funny things. :P wish i was a twat.

Australian is still the best way to talk. I love my Australian accent.

Final Prophecy
Mar-11-07, 05:10 PM
What was the point to this thread.

It completely escaped me.

Syn
Mar-11-07, 05:27 PM
fat kids suck

dogzer
Mar-11-07, 06:39 PM
Oh please, i totaly rocked this thread... Five is just too picky on the 'technical stuff'. My advice is good.


Sugar is shit, that's all you need to know. It doesnt matter that they are "carbs" here. I dont recomend to concider sugar as a carbs source.

And the "over eating" correction is even dumber. That was so not the point, i never said he should overeat cuz he might get away with it! .......... I said if he happens to over eat (healthy food) some time, and he works out regulary, it helps him gain muscle, even though he gains some fat too. And if you happen to gain a little fat while gaining muscle doesnt mean he just got fucked, because he has more muscle and more stamina that'll help him get rid of the fat more easely. holy shhhhhhit i won this..

Syn
Mar-11-07, 07:05 PM
technical stuff? I'm pretty sure the only way to know exactly what you are doing when you are training is to know all the technical "stuff"

dogzer
Mar-11-07, 07:54 PM
ok, but it depends on the goal, sometimes you have technical info that doesnt help you on your specific goal

he's fat, that's what he said. He needs to get his ass up and work out, maybe it doesnt even get more technical than that

chicanerous
Mar-11-07, 08:57 PM
FOOD != EMOTIONS
FOOD != COMFORT
FOOD != PLEASURE
FOOD != YOUR PROBLEMS

FOOD = FUEL

If you eat food because you love how it tastes, it's no wonder you're now a fat ass. So, if you want to lose weight, you need to first lose these associations. After that, it will be easy to limit your calories, lose fat, and keep it off.

The Alien Elite
Mar-11-07, 11:21 PM
haha well said guys, specially you chicanerous! And yea, I been running my ass off, losin good amounts of fat. Fasted Cardio ftw :good:

Rahf
Mar-12-07, 03:11 AM
haha well said guys, specially you chicanerous! And yea, I been running my ass off, losin good amounts of fat. Fasted Cardio ftw :good:

Careful about losing lean mass. If that's anything you worry about that is. Keep it up and come back in a month or two.

Btw, how do you know you've lost good amounts of fat?

Five
Mar-12-07, 03:12 AM
Oh please, i totaly rocked this thread... Five is just too picky on the 'technical stuff'. My advice is good.

i shit you not: you are TOTALLY wrong

Rahf
Mar-12-07, 03:19 AM
i shit you not: you are TOTALLY wrong

Don't take it to hard. Start acting towards him like we do. Like a village treats the village idiot.

Karlnold
Mar-12-07, 03:45 AM
EDIT: My current weight is 127 LBs, and 28% BF

you don't need to loose weight, you need to start training and get some metabolism...


edit: you piece of shit!

dogzer
Mar-12-07, 03:57 AM
Don't take it to hard. Start acting towards him like we do. Like a village treats the village idiot.

*Pictures Rahf and his gang as villagers
this is what my mental image of them is now:
http://www.geocities.com/eds_python/villager.jpg

Rahf
Mar-12-07, 06:34 AM
Dibs on being John Cleese!

"She turned me into a newt!"

Ashtar
Mar-12-07, 06:46 AM
I had no clue Juji and Dogen used to be fat. Perhaps the fat people who do get their act together have to work harder at understanding the technical stuff and become fanatic machines of perfection. Inspire!!!

So anyway, I was thinking if I ate nothing but fibre-water intensive veggies (lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts) and meat, it's guaranteed to be a route to the leanness?

Syn
Mar-12-07, 10:56 AM
yeah, because juji was never fat... unless he was an obese 8 year old

The Alien Elite
Mar-12-07, 01:50 PM
Careful about losing lean mass. If that's anything you worry about that is. Keep it up and come back in a month or two.

Btw, how do you know you've lost good amounts of fat?

Um, well this is pretty fucking pathetic, but my bitch-tits are shrinking fast hahaha.

Andy Longcat
Mar-12-07, 01:57 PM
I'm fat because I broke my ankle and coun't train.

I also just spent my whole ''rehab'' smoking weed and eating cheetos hahaha


I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT FOR THE WORLD


edit: and I can still trick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4acMbMK8bQ

Rahf
Mar-12-07, 02:46 PM
Um, well this is pretty fucking pathetic, but my bitch-tits are shrinking fast hahaha.

How long have you been on a calorie deficient diet?

kamikaze!
Mar-12-07, 03:08 PM
just eat more healthy shit you fat fuck and stop bitching about it on an internet forum


fuckin emo pussy animeholic sons of bitches

You have much anger in you my friend :smile:

Trickstar
Mar-13-07, 08:57 PM
I'm fat because I broke my ankle and coun't train.

I also just spent my whole ''rehab'' smoking weed and eating cheetos hahaha


I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT FOR THE WORLD


edit: and I can still trick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4acMbMK8bQ

Stupid Mexican. You can't be fat working for me on my farm.

Andy Longcat
Mar-14-07, 11:22 AM
*sighs*

You're an idiot.

Ashtar
Mar-14-07, 12:24 PM
P.S: While I'm thinking about it, I've been meaning to ask those who have naturally high metabolisms...why diet/eat healthy, if you never gain a pound anyway? Like, why avoid High Fructose Corn Syrup if you don't have a weight problem to begin with?Hm, high fructose corn syrup isn't really worse than white sugar I think. It's basically the same, the people who are all 'sugar's better' are probably just spreading propoganda from the islands they grow sugar cane on. They lost a hell of a lot of business when the companies switched to HFCS which was cheaper due to the subsidies american corn farmers got. There might be a slight difference since cane sugar is sucrose, a disaccharide, whereas the HFCS is already divided into fructose and glucose. Even so, how long's it take to split a glucose-fructose bond anyway? It takes water to do that too.

Oh, and people eat the healthy because of the higher nutrient content and in general good systemic health can help with long-term recovery for harder training and less illness and diabetes or whatever. Junk food can have a lot of useless stuff like food colouring and some forms of preservatives which can't exactly be good for you. Not deadly, sure, but by taking out excess strain on the system (strain that doesn't lead to improvement, like exercise) it frees up more energy and nutrients for other processes (like exercise).

The Alien Elite
Mar-14-07, 10:41 PM
hmmm very useful ashtar, thanks for the enlightment :good:

And ive been dieting for about 2 months now. ah, it's late, but feels reaaally good outside. Might go trick for a bit :wicked:

Lobo
Mar-14-07, 11:01 PM
No, please don't listen to Ashtar/tycoil, sigh.... It's happening all over again.

The Alien Elite
Mar-15-07, 12:04 AM
Care to elaborate on that?

Trickstar
Mar-15-07, 12:48 AM
He is joking. I hope.

Rahf
Mar-15-07, 02:31 AM
No, Ashtar is not joking. Lobo is dead serious as well.

Ashtar had another nickname here before but changed it to the current one so that nobody knew who he was. I'll let you figure the rest out.

cepopeye
Mar-15-07, 02:53 AM
EDIT: My current weight is 127 LBs, and 28% BF

are you like a foot tall?

Rahf
Mar-15-07, 03:21 AM
are you like a foot tall?

Hehe you haven't read the rest of the thread eh?

giovanni
Mar-15-07, 03:46 AM
Tabata sprint 3 times a week, that fat, like theres no tomorow.

anfeyd
Mar-15-07, 05:51 AM
Hm, high fructose corn syrup isn't really worse than white sugar I think. It's basically the same, the people who are all 'sugar's better' are probably just spreading propoganda from the islands they grow sugar cane on. They lost a hell of a lot of business when the companies switched to HFCS which was cheaper due to the subsidies american corn farmers got. There might be a slight difference since cane sugar is sucrose, a disaccharide, whereas the HFCS is already divided into fructose and glucose. Even so, how long's it take to split a glucose-fructose bond anyway? It takes water to do that too.

Oh, and people eat the healthy because of the higher nutrient content and in general good systemic health can help with long-term recovery for harder training and less illness and diabetes or whatever. Junk food can have a lot of useless stuff like food colouring and some forms of preservatives which can't exactly be good for you. Not deadly, sure, but by taking out excess strain on the system (strain that doesn't lead to improvement, like exercise) it frees up more energy and nutrients for other processes (like exercise).

In my Anthropology class, my professor told us HFCS was made from non-edible corn or something. I do not know to validity, but he was pretty negative about it.