Spiral Knuckle...a 3-part trick

[sesshoumaru]

Finally, a decent Spiral Knuckle!!! Most of the time I fudge it to the left side a little, and it gets confused with a Btwist...but not this time!

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RkcOCYROs)

[shengoikee]

oh noes! not available yet :agony:

i really wanna see this haha

[Starfoot]

Not available yet. Cant wait to see it

[Augenatic]

I don't understand this move :agony:

[poliver]

long time ago (2 years) long time before i started tricking me and mine friends were doin flips on our asses into snow - incuding spiral knuckles on stomach :D we we're calling it a kickflip back then. never thought it was landable :punched:

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Such a cool move, can't wait for ya to combo it!

Dublegtwist....


OMG is right.

[fusion]

haha thats a crazy move, look soo nice to combo with

[FatTricks]

That looks like my btwist but without a punch. I go head first in mine....just like a psycho crusher. Nice. I'll try adding the punch next time.

[Spiral]

You named a trick after me?!

Thanks man!

EDIT: i don't really like it, name it after someone else.

i'm kidding, by the way ahah,

[Skilzat85X]

So you're suppose to land into the cartwheel type move right?

[Andy R]

thats crazy!! sweet trick sesh!

[shengoikee]

haha nice sessh

i cant wait for another samp from ya man....

[TartanPajamas]

I don't get it...I thought there were supposed to be punches?

[Mateus]

bailed atwist with a punch? anyway it looks strange

[shengoikee]

I don't get it...I thought there were supposed to be punches?

he's punching forwards like a psychocrusher in street fighter haha

[sesshoumaru]

Yeah the trick breakdown would go like this:

Blitz --> Full Gyro --> msl "cartwheel oriented trick"

So you're suppose to land into the cartwheel type move right?I don't get it...I thought there were supposed to be punches?bailed atwist with a punch? anyway it looks strange

Basically, I lunge forward and punch...but as I punch fist goes from "knuckles up" in the chamber, to "knuckles down" in the extended punch. As that happens, my head follows suit and my body begins to twist. Since the lunge forward is so great, and there is no value in degrees for a flatspin, you must tumble out of the technique to stop within a reasonable distance.

[brandonn]

that dleg >last minute twist was ridiculous. so is a spiral knuckle basically a gainer btwist? who named it that?

[mogwai]

I first saw this way bak in a monkey kungfu form...
did not know the name...
its sick!

[Kaos]

that was crazy, I thought you had broken something when, he caution appear, warning use not to do it. But that was cool

[maxx]

omg the psycho crusher is actually possible?!

lol!!!

good god i better get to work on whirling bird kick

[TartanPajamas]

Care to put up a downloadable version? I'll need to put it in frame-by-frame to really understand it.

[sesshoumaru]

Sorry no DL version...

[TartanPajamas]

Fair enough, I'll see what me and youtube can work out together.

[garz]

please name this psycho crusher, no one can pronounce "spiral knuckle", at least the flow of this two words is more like a tongue twister. say "spiral knuckle" to someone and he will react like "what?? what did you say, please spell it!!", at least in germany plus it sounds and looks gay, it sounds like something from sonic the hedgehogs friend knuckles, that is absolutely not cool! psycho crusher is! it comes from m. bison, i can imagine something under this name and all other guys that know street fighter 2.

this move really looks so sweet, i like it much and its finally something new! LOVE IT!

SO PLZ SESS, TELL ME, YOU WONT NAME IT SPIRAL KNUCKLE!!!

tricking slang should be cool and easy going, gainer, webster, flash, rodeo, aerial....... spiral knuckle???? *puke*

edit: i dont want to insult, its just a little bit exaggerated =)

[Martialartsguyfl]

haha, everyone always asks me if i can do this move.

[Patrick Alessi]

This guy hypers it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

[kinetic]

Haha.
And argh i've been thinking about this move for a while too. hmm. Pretty coolId like to see it landed by itself though. Hah, how crazy are the combos gonna be with this.

[brandonn]

This guy hypers it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

hahah i remember when he posted that... i bet if he punched and really worked that move he could land it cleaner

[sesshoumaru]

This guy hypers it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

He's not doing the same thing...looks pretty dope though! Could make for a good "fake" in a combo.

[Ambitrixterous]

Haha look at this grown-ass man messin around throwin high level tricks over shit w/only one leg to use... jk man this was dope, spiral knuckle rules but its only for ninjas, regular joes like me don't do this move- maybe I'll go practice it?!?! Also you landed one almost that clean at TXT gathering last year!

[Duke_Hoff]

nifty punchy btwist!

[Yahtzee]

why the hell would you take the time to highlight your words in maroon

[Less than Dan]

Ummm...all it looks like to me is a b-twist spinning the oppisite direction :eh:

[sesshoumaru]

why the hell would you take the time to highlight your words in maroon

To put emphasis on certain points that I make, so that there is no confusion.

Alot of people could have progressed alot faster if only people were clear about what they say.

[poliver]

This guy hypers it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

No!!! Spiral Knuckle supposed to be hypered when landed on the fist :tongue: :punched:

[Patrick Alessi]

Damn.
I did not consider the fact that they are done in defferent direction!

Sorry guy... That was stupid!

[Yahtzee]

Alot of people could have progressed alot faster if only people were clear about what they say.


not really. people could just progress faster if they tried harder and weren't stupid

[Skippy]

not really. people could just progress faster if they tried harder and weren't stupid

Dont argue with the sesshmeister

[Augenatic]

This guy hypers it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

No, this guy does a bad 540 =P. Or a cheat hypertwist.

[Less than Dan]

Dont argue with the sesshmeister

Don't be such an asskisser. Yahtzee CERTAINLY is a man of worthy spoken word.

I'm so very tired of everyone being such a zealot for Sessh. He's a very revolutionary and well known trickster, but that doesn't make him the end all for anything. Everything is subjective.

Besides, I full-heartedly back Yahtzee on this one. I've been guiltly sometimes of what he's saying, honestly. No one is going to read a tutorial/tip online and suddenly be able to do the move: people have to put effort into the learning process in order to get a move. If someone cannot read a bit of text and pick out the key points, that's no one's fault but theirs, and trust me: a tip should be used to tweak the learning process, it shouldn't be what you base the entire learning process off of.

Everyone, stop kissing Sessh's ass. Please. Formulate your own opinions for once.

[Jon P]

Don't be such an asskisser. Yahtzee CERTAINLY is a man of worthy spoken word.

I'm so very tired of everyone being such a zealot for Sessh. He's a very revolutionary and well known trickster, but that doesn't make him the end all for anything. Everything is subjective.

Besides, I full-heartedly back Yahtzee on this one. I've been guiltly sometimes of what he's saying, honestly. No one is going to read a tutorial/tip online and suddenly be able to do the move: people have to put effort into the learning process in order to get a move. If someone cannot read a bit of text and pick out the key points, that's no one's fault but theirs, and trust me: a tip should be used to tweak the learning process, it shouldn't be what you base the entire learning process off of.

Everyone, stop kissing Sessh's ass. Please. Formulate your own opinions for once.

Oh, shut up.

Why do people insist on trying to create soap opera esque drama on this internet forum?

[Skippy]

Don't be such an asskisser. Yahtzee CERTAINLY is a man of worthy spoken word.

I'm so very tired of everyone being such a zealot for Sessh. He's a very revolutionary and well known trickster, but that doesn't make him the end all for anything. Everything is subjective.

Besides, I full-heartedly back Yahtzee on this one. I've been guiltly sometimes of what he's saying, honestly. No one is going to read a tutorial/tip online and suddenly be able to do the move: people have to put effort into the learning process in order to get a move. If someone cannot read a bit of text and pick out the key points, that's no one's fault but theirs, and trust me: a tip should be used to tweak the learning process, it shouldn't be what you base the entire learning process off of.

Everyone, stop kissing Sessh's ass. Please. Formulate your own opinions for once.


I did, I just coincedently whole heartedly agreed with sessh.

[Less than Dan]

I did, I just coincedently whole heartedly agreed with sessh.

...
Touche.

[sesshoumaru]

not really. people could just progress faster if they tried harder and weren't stupid

It's not about trying harder all the time. If you're given incorrect instructions on how to do a specific trick, and you spend a month trying to do it (based on the instructions given)...when you find out that it wrong, you'll have to break the habit of doing the wrong way, then re-learn the damn trick all over again. I'm sure this has happened to quite a number of people.

To me, that is a waste of time...in the process, you might have gotten a little more awareness; but it didn't give you the results you were looking for.

[Jon P]

Seriously, show a little appreciation. Sesh doesnt have to take the time to use tags in his posts, make super in-depth tutorials and walkthrus to help all of us does he?

I am not ass kissing but Sess has never attacked, spammed or done anything to deserve any sort of disrespect.

then again I may be reading to much into your posts; less than dan and yahtzee.

[TartanPajamas]

Don't argue with Less Than Dan, Sesshoumaru, or Jon P.

[TartanPajamas]

Don't argue with Juji, Anis, or me!

[Kyukodo Gaz]

Awwww. come on! we will have no one left to argue with if you carry on like that! what's the point in having the forum! :smile:

I like this technique, and as a previosu freestyle fighter I can definitely tell the difference between this and the btwist. The bwtist rotates laterally while travelling along a horizontal plane. I think this technique rotates laterally whilst the practitioner travels forwards. that's a whole new ball game!

[TartanPajamas]

To be honest, I just didn't see any of the punches I was told I'd see. The cartwheel thing was pretty sweet, though. On the forearm, too! Could you full outta that?

[Dragonic MiKe]

It's not about trying harder all the time. If you're given incorrect instructions on how to do a specific trick, and you spend a month trying to do it (based on the instructions given)...when you find out that it wrong, you'll have to break the habit of doing the wrong way, then re-learn the damn trick all over again. I'm sure this has happened to quite a number of people.

Haha, yup. Taigashi's (sp?) old aerial exampler. "It's all in the arms", lol.

Not having a dig at Taigashi or anything. >_>

Edit: Forgot to comment... Nice spiral knuckle!!

[Yahtzee]

Seriously, show a little appreciation. Sesh doesnt have to take the time to use tags in his posts, make super in-depth tutorials and walkthrus to help all of us does he?

I am not ass kissing but Sess has never attacked, spammed or done anything to deserve any sort of disrespect.

then again I may be reading to much into your posts; less than dan and yahtzee.

ehhh my original post was really just asking why he would take the time to highlight things that seem really pointless. hahaha

[TartanPajamas]

ehhh my original post was really just asking why he would take the time to highlight things that seem really pointless. hahaha

I can tell by your tone that you haven't sacrificed enough goats to Sesshoumaru lately. Perhaps that is why you don't truly understand his highlighting ways...

[Dragonic MiKe]

I like the way Sessh highlights the keywords in his posts. It displays creative style and a thoughtful, helpful outlook.


I believe my head is now firmly lodged between Sessh's powerful buttocks. :smile:

[jeff3]

i dont like it

[TartanPajamas]

What? Highlighting, or the move?

[jeff3]

the move

[JuGGaLoTricKsta]

Finally, a decent Spiral Knuckle!!! Most of the time I fudge it to the left side a little, and it gets confused with a Btwist...but not this time!

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RkcOCYROs)

okay...? so u did a shitty btwist. whoopdy fuckin do.

jk. nah. that was pretty tite.

[slik]

Uuuhhh totally new to me :tongue: Looked nice, and looked like I would fall on my face :good:

[rocketbaz]

whaat?! have to try it xD

[8-BIT Josh The Man Mod]

Awesomeness, but I could've sworn you did this at the Houston Gathering or atleast something damn near close.

[Patrick Alessi]

I'd like to know if this trick has to be executed from the "b-twist setup leg" or from "the other one"

I see that Sessh is doing it from his b-twist leg. Does that mean that this trick just is a straight forward b-twist with something like two punches in it?

What if you either changed the legs in the setup ore the rotation orientation.
So that the hip opens up instead of closes (Like in a sideswipe setup) but still forward executed. What trick would that be?

I hope I made my questions clear...



[Edit]
Sessh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RkcOCYROs

Other guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmFVV6oC5K4

The fact is that Sessh does a straight forward B-twist

And the other guy does as i mentioned earlier. He "opens the hip/chest"

They are both hypered as they should but executed very differently.
Is this why nr. 2 is called "reverse"? By the way he is changing the rotation orientation instead of setup...

In that case they are two VERY different tricks...

[sesshoumaru]

There is nothing Btwisty about the Spiral Knuckle, the only thing that make it remotely similar is the horizontal twist, but aside from that...it's completely different.

The Spiral Knuckle is a Blitz (a lunging punching sequence that is used in point sparring) with a Full Gyro and an added missleg technique. This technique is completely different than any other technique you've been exposed to.

Btwist-------------------------------------Spiral Knuckle

- there's a dip --------------------------- - there's no dip
- the back leg kicks up ----------------- - back knee drives forward as the punch chambers
- there's a "wrap" ----------------------. - back leg kicks back as the punch makes the twist
- there's a 180-degree flatspin ---------- there's no flatspin
- there's an available setup -----------. - there's no setup
- no additional tricks required to land_ - msl cartweel/Aerial is needed to land

From this you can clearly see that there is a big difference between the Spiral Knuckle and the Btwist.

The "so called" Reverse Hyper Spiral Knuckle that Inkrepid was trying to do wasn't a Spiral Knuckle at all. What he did was a laid back 540 on his opposite side from a Btwist-type dip. It created the illusion of a Spiral Knuckle, but it was far from it.

[mike111590]

OH SHIT!!!!
im gunna start to work on this. it is sooooo bad ass looking

[TartanPajamas]

I don't believe that anything should be called a trick if it requires more than one trick to land. A combo, yes, but definitely not a single trick.

I really like the idea of a btwist without a flatspin, though. I'll try that, and eventually get into doing the whole thing later if I happen to be successful.

[sesshoumaru]

Think of it like an Axe-Aerial...the Aerial isn't needed to finish the axe kick and the axe kick isn't needed to do the Aerial. The trick as a whole exist as two parts. Spiral Knuckle/Psycho Crusher exist as three...

[tracekillz]

...thats freakin hot. i wanna learn! haha..spiral knuckle to cart full sweep 2 scoot cork!

[TartanPajamas]

A snapuswipe is done in multiple parts, too, but it's still all in one jump. A trick, in my opinion, counts from when you leave your feet to when you land on them again.

[sesshoumaru]

I understand where you're going with this. The Psycho Crusher/Spiral Knuckle can be landed without the msl cartwheel, I just don't recommend it...it puts alot of stress on the body.

[TartanPajamas]

Interesting. How so? It seems to me that landing it with the msl cartwheel would kill my ankle. Hypering that into a missleg gumbi or raiz would be kickass, though.