Is this the physique you are striving for?

[Rahf]

This is not for those who are already well underway in their development and already have set goals (Chicanerous, Steve, Compleks, Lobo etc.) but rather for those who have recently started lifting weights.

I reckon this is probably something you are aiming for in terms of looks?


http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/a7dd4-dagsform20070228-1.jpg

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/c14a8-dagsform20070228-2.jpg

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/bc2a1-morgon1706.jpg

Something like that maybe? I reckon that is more mass than you'll need anyhow if you aim to trick as well.

[fusion]

haha yeh man i would loooooooooooove to be like tht

[Casper]

mhm maybe a bit too much yet it looks fucking class A

[Fanya]

Not bad I suppose. I don't want to look like that though.

[jkarate212]

Yeah, but without some of the chest hair/tattoo

[free2moo]

What is the body fat estimate for that guy?

[SkyintheSea]

The body I'm currently striving for is similar to the Bruce Lee's one.

Definetly I don't want a body like this :D

[XArasX]

lol IF i was a guy pshh yea. but for guys i'd say thats somethin to strive for =P

[Rahf]

What is the body fat estimate for that guy?

I'd say his BF is around the 10% mark.

The reason I threw this picture up is because he is not as buff as your typical weightlifter with +7 years experience in the gym. Very lean and some amazing lats to say the least. Apparently he keeps his BF constantly around the 10 mark since he competes in fitness.

*Edit* And yer, he's a Swede.

[XArasX]

=/ i think he's pretty lean and all but its pretty unattractive when the guys bulk up so much its just to a point of being disgusting.

[Rahf]

=/ i think he's pretty lean and all but its pretty unattractive when the guys bulk up so much its just to a point of being disgusting.

Personal preference. You'll get the point in a few years.

[compleks]

You're 13, you shouldn't even be attracted to males yet.

[XArasX]

lol umm....yea i'm 13. Not 5 =P

[hamelkarl]

This guy need MASS!

[Benji]

I know I sound like a noob, but how would one go about getting a physique like that?

[skywalker]

Not bad at all, but his lats are way too out of proportion, it looks wrong.

Also if that's a case of hypertrophy, how is it going to help in tricking at all?!

I train in pure bodyweight and still notice a good improvement, just needs more work that's all.

[Karlnold]

ha ha, fitness is soo gaay...

[chicanerous]

You should post his legs; they're in the original T-Nation thread. The man gots some nice lats and pecs, but he needs to squat.

[Rahf]

Haha true I forgot to post those. Although I don't reckon he cares too much about it since he's in fitness. All he cares about are dips and pull-ups.

Also guys, he's 31 mind you, he's got muscle maturity going for him, and he's been training for the past 7 years or so. I'd still kill for that physique, that is my aesthetical dream look (with the exception of legs) and if tricking was possible with that bod.. Weee!

[Fanya]

Their fitness competitions include judging based on how many BW dips and pullups they can do, so it makes sense that he wouldn't focus as much on his legs. That said, he needs to squat :tongue:

[peterh]

maybe i LIL bit smaller

[Gusch]

lol umm....yea i'm 13. Not 5 =P

which is still pretty young. I don't know about girls.. but I don't know of even one guy who was attracted to girls at your age.

[skywalker]

Well as a an English person, I take pride in shagging the whole of my class by year six... Ok well just fancying a few people...

[peterh]

which is still pretty young. I don't know about girls.. but I don't know of even one guy who was attracted to girls at your age.

I'm attracted to girls her age! (damn i wish i was older, so this seemed creepier)

[Rahf]

This is not the Publicus so yeah.. Keep those thoughts to yourself.

Alternatively you could get her down there and then write out your fantasies :tongue:

[anfeyd]

No, that is not a physique I would strive for.

Then again, I already have a defined set of goals, I was just neglected because of my knowledge base compared to the members mentioned at the start of the post.

[Rahf]

No, that is not a physique I would strive for.

Then again, I already have a defined set of goals, I was just neglected because of my knowledge base compared to the members mentioned at the start of the post.

My apologies for leaving you out anfeyd. It's just that you're not as active/eccentric like the ones I added there.

[Syn]

I might take down the lats just a teen bit, but that's be all

which is still pretty young. I don't know about girls.. but I don't know of even one guy who was attracted to girls at your age.

you must've had known alot of late bloomers then...

[compleks]

I might take down the lats just a teen bit, but that's be all

No way, he needs those lats for gliding to earth from tall buildings/trees etc.

[dogzer]

In my personal opinon that guy's body looks kind of weird. I wouldnt want such big arms with such a little waist.
i'm aiming for something like this
http://www.lamuscle.com/img/dynamic/mens_health_july_2006.jpg

edit: wich i am soon to acomplish, I might add, i'm totally ripped

[Lobo]

It might seem an odd choice but I like Mike Mentzer's build; I'm not a huge fan of vascularity and extremely low bodyfat, and I like the stockiness - like his forearms being practically the same thickness as his upper arms. That said, I don't necessarily try to emulate anyone or strive for someone else's physique.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/LoboParamilitary/mm11.jpg

[Swartz]

Yeah I like Mentzer's build too. The forearms are excellent.

[Steve]

Weird waist haha

I just exercise for athletics but I'll probably end up with 500 pound chest and shoulders

Also Mike Mentzer's right shoulder is much larger than his left, therefore he fails

[Lobo]

I think him "running naked through the streets, directing traffic, telling prophecies about the end of the world" more than makes up for it though.

[Pananaue]

im aiming for a physique more or less (probably less) like ryan reynold's from the third blade movie.

530

[Lobo]

That's easy.

[Pananaue]

That's easy.

*cries*
haha says you :wink:

[cepopeye]

I'm just psyched that i finally, finally aquired 8 package. not that it was terribly difficult once i started trying, it only took about a month or two. It just involved a lot more commitment to running and dieting than i'd preivously had

[skywalker]

I got a 9 pack. Fuck knows how but it's amusing.

[dogzer]

i have an 8 pack, but they are all on the right side

[Steve]

I have a 6 pack but can do infinite weight on any ab exercise you could imagine

[eliscool]

No way, he needs those lats for gliding to earth from tall buildings/trees etc.

That was LOL

[Scott]

I have a 6 pack but can do infinite weight on any ab exercise you could imagine

Dragon flags with 666 kg strapped to your ankles!

[Steve]

Yes.

[Scott]

Hardcore.
But I bet you're not as incredibly muscular as Bruce Lee! Ho ho ho ho hoo

[abdominable]

I personally don't like this physique... it's too big in some parts and too undeveloped in others.

[Rahf]

Hardcore.
But I bet you're not as incredibly muscular as Bruce Lee! Ho ho ho ho hoo

I reckon the only reason that is so is because Bruce used Plasmavol!!!!@!@!! While Steve doesn't.

[Wesker]

This is my ultimate goal, as of now. It's only about asthetics, not performance.
Though with better proportions between triceps/biceps

http://xc2.xanga.com/10ba415669c3072785222/b49025403.jpg

[Karlnold]

This is the mental state of mind I'm striving for...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/Drillborrkiller/sacrifice.jpg

[Scott]

Hardcore.
But I bet you're not as incredibly muscular as Bruce Lee! Ho ho ho ho hoo

Hahaha yeah probably

[TKD_Lee]

http://www.aumania.it/fa/kelly/140.jpg

[Ashtar]

The OP is great, I'd be pretty satisfied looking half that good.

Still, Conan is a badass, and Mentzer. Before he died didn't Mentzer go batty or something?

[Lobo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/LoboParamilitary/00057935.jpg

[Lobo]

The OP is great, I'd be pretty satisfied looking half that good.

Still, Conan is a badass, and Mentzer. Before he died didn't Mentzer go batty or something?
I already mentioned that. Just fuck off again, tycoil.

[Andy Longcat]

Not me, I'd go for a physique like that of Spider-Man's

:good:

[Rahf]

Not me, I'd go for a physique like that of Spider-Man's

:good:

Hehe that must be one of the most proportionate physiques ever. Depending on if you mean Tobey Maguire or the comic book version that is.

Conan looks like he would have a distended stomach if he relaxed and slumped down abit.

[Andy Longcat]

Comic book Spider-Man ofc.

he pwns

[Rahf]

Hell yeah. That's an awesome physique right there!

Get to it Andy! Pics in a few years when you realise it's impossible :tongue:

[Andy Longcat]

huge shoulders ftw

[Ashtar]

I know in the movie he got pumped up all of a sudden, but I can't remember, in the comic did he become instantly muscular after getting bit or did that just generally happen after a long career of fighting other super-strength villains?

[Rahf]

Instantly muscular. It all varied with the artist though but generally he had a wicked physique.

[mattt]

http://jayfrench.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hulk.jpg

[chicanerous]

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5504/stickandlogowe1.gif

[kristo]

Their fitness competitions include judging based on how many BW dips and pullups they can do, so it makes sense that he wouldn't focus as much on his legs. That said, he needs to squat :tongue:

What are these Fitness competitions? ALL they do is dip and pullup? Why is he so huge then?

[chicanerous]

What are these Fitness competitions? ALL they do is dip and pullup?
If I remember the thread correctly, it was a physique competition, dips and pull-ups competition, and rowing competition all in one -- aesthetics, "strength," and endurance. Some weird Swedish thing, in any case.

[compleks]

Haha, fitness competition.

[TKD_Lee]

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5504/stickandlogowe1.gif

STICK STICKLY!

[Rahf]

If I remember the thread correctly, it was a physique competition, dips and pull-ups competition, and rowing competition all in one -- aesthetics, "strength," and endurance. Some weird Swedish thing, in any case.

It was Norwegian.

[chicanerous]

It was Norwegian.
I'm American. All your countries are ostensibly the same place. :wicked:

[Rahf]

I'm American. All your countries are ostensibly the same place. :wicked:

Wait.. Would that mean I'm down by Australia? Somewhere around those parts?

[kristo]

Where's the thread on T-nation that those came from?

[TKD_Andy]

does anyone want to look like this?

http://www.ndown.com/images/pg2/20060602121029_1.jpg

[Karlnold]

Ha ha, this is the physique I'm avoiding, he has no symmetry... (about the fitness dude)

[TKD_Andy]

but he's big and black!

[Karlnold]

Oh, ha ha... I was referring to the fitness guy...

Nah, I'd rather just look as I do now except bigger...

[Rahf]

Black?

*Edit* Nevermind! I saw it now.

[TKD_Andy]

heres the link for the pic

http://www.ndown.com/images/pg2/20060602121029_1.jpg

its bobby lashley. He's a fucking unit!

[Rahf]

He looks like someone that you could ask to ram through a door, or a brick wall. And he would turn it into splinters/dust without flinching

[Karlnold]

I guess there's no really good example of what I'm striving for. But if I had to give an example of what I think is good symmetry it'd be Gary Strydom... ha ha, he's a veteran by now... he's like almost 50 but in great condition, he's kinda even better now than when he was younger. His physique reminds somewhat of Arnold's, except he has better legs.

http://www.benchpresschampion.com/PHOTOS/MENBODYBUILDING/GaryStrydom.jpg

[jan]

http://www.frankzane.com/images/FZbeard.jpg

Here you go. This guy looks awesome.

[Karlnold]

http://www.frankzane.com/images/FZbeard.jpg

Here you go. This guy looks awesome.


Ha ha, Frank Zane, "Mr Symmetry"... I never liked his physique and I really don't see how he could win three consecutive "Mr Olympia"...

Ha ha, his posing routines were great though, and he always looked as if he was on crack when performing them...

[jan]

Haha. I just like the whole "strong legs, wide lats" kind of thing.

[Phil D]

http://www.frankzane.com/images/FZbeard.jpg

bulge report!!!

[D4damage]

I'm not sure what my goal is. Maybe increase mass, bring out vascularity and keep symmetry.

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/17/f_Image633m_962726e.jpg

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/17/f_Image635m_19f052e.jpg

My bf% needs to come down and my calves are lagging behind (no pictures).

[skywalker]

That's pretty hot... For a guy...

[peterh]

..or a girl

[peterh]

i wanna get this strong. and change my skin color. but seriously, does anyone on this forum want to become this muscular. because i think i'd much rather have a sleeker build.
http://www.vicrichards.com/images/VR_most_muscular.jpg

[Karlnold]

There's no such thing as "Too muscular"...

[skywalker]

Imagine having muscle that's so big, you looked like a big plodgy ball.

I wish I had a bodybuilder gf like that.

[D4damage]

This one was taken January 2006
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/17/f_alexjan06m_d831d4f.jpg

[Karlnold]

your nipples growed...

[TKD_Andy]

are you a giant or is that a really small cam D4Damage?

lol heres a body shot from about 4 months ago or something.

http://myspace-889.vo.llnwd.net/01322/98/88/1322768889_l.jpg

that was before i started training properly back at uni. I might take another one tonight to see where i'm at.

[jan]

Only picture I have atm:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/jan_1080/Picture377.jpg

[D4damage]

your nipples growed...

Ha, never noticed before, but your right. Must have something to do with my pecs getting bigger.

are you a giant or is that a really small cam D4Damage?


Yea, sony cyber shot, it was my favorite cam until it broke. I got a new one (T9), but always go back to the phone for convenience.

It looks like I've turned this into a post your improvements thread.

[Antoine]

good stuff Jan!

[pete_man_man]

Only picture I have atm:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/jan_1080/Picture377.jpg

this is quite strange... i see something very similar to this when i look in the mirror..... i do body weight exercises. do you? cos that would explain it.

[compleks]

this is quite strange... i see something very similar to this when i look in the mirror..... i do body weight exercises. do you? cos that would explain it.

Yes, that would probably explain all of life's mysteries.

[Steve]

No the reason you look the same is because you are both lean with nearly no muscle, haha.

[wakka2nice]

There's no such thing as "Too muscular"...

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/steroids.bmp

what?




http://www.frankzane.com/images/FZbeard.jpg

Here you go. This guy looks awesome.

WOAH!!! FREAKING ACE!!

now i have a pic when people ask me what i wanna look like.

man he looks freakin awesome.

[skywalker]

Last picture is photoshopped... But it freaks the hell out of me... what sort of sick twisted individual could do that to a human being? *Shudder*

[jan]

I have little upper body musculature, because I just recently started working out my arms. I've always focused somewhat on my triceps but yeah, I have little muscle in my upper body. ... I'm happy I can bench 255 though. It's not much, but it's improving:) For some reason though, my trapezoids have always been disproportionate to the rest of my upper body. It must be because of all the handstand pushups and stuff I used to do.


Steve: Pictures!


Edit: No, I don't do bodyweight exercises. I lift heavy weights, focusing on explosiveness and strength more so than size. It works really well.

Thanks Antoine:)

[Scott]

I have little upper body musculature, because I just recently started working out my arms. I've always focused somewhat on my triceps but yeah, I have little muscle in my upper body. ... I'm happy I can bench 255 though. It's not much, but it's improving:) For some reason though, my trapezoids have always been disproportionate to the rest of my upper body. It must be because of all the handstand pushups and stuff I used to do.


Steve: Pictures!


Edit: No, I don't do bodyweight exercises. I lift heavy weights, focusing on explosiveness and strength more so than size. It works really well.

Thanks Antoine:)

Fuck! You're 5 lbs ahead of me again! I will crush your skull!

[Fanya]

Haha benching. I put up just under two plates on each side and I'm a scrawny motherfucker. By looking at me one wouldn't guess I can put up more than a buck fifty.

[Steve]

No matter what the time I am always exactly as strong as Jan

[jan]

We are linked.

[Nabil]

arent trapezoids shapes?? :P

[jan]

I meant trapezius.

[TKD_Andy]

I've always focused somewhat on my triceps

Triceps ftw! I really enjoy working my tri's, probably because im stronger at them that the othe people i work out with. Apart from the cable machines we use keep fucking breaking :eh: Thinking about it now, doing a pulldown of 48kg doesnt sound that much though :sad:

[Rahf]

Triceps ftw! I really enjoy working my tri's, probably because im stronger at them that the othe people i work out with. Apart from the cable machines we use keep fucking breaking :eh: Thinking about it now, doing a pulldown of 48kg doesnt sound that much though :sad:

If it breaks at 48kg you need to seriously tell the cables to stop being so pussy-like.

48kgs btw? Does it measure in lbs or something? All the cables at my gym only go in 5-10kg increments.

[TKD_Andy]

its a brand new machine we have to use now, the old one that kept breaking (cable popping off the wheel at the bottom) we had no idea what we were lifting, it just had numbers on it, but the new one has really weird increments, it starts 8, 11, 13.5, 16 etc, pretty weird.

48kg on that machine is the stack btw.

[shengoikee]

if that guys legs look like a sack of bricks then yes! sick :good:

[Casper]

Jan is so sexy
and I mean this is a none gay way

[shengoikee]

In my personal opinon that guy's body looks kind of weird. I wouldnt want such big arms with such a little waist.
i'm aiming for something like this
http://www.lamuscle.com/img/dynamic/mens_health_july_2006.jpg

edit: wich i am soon to acomplish, I might add, i'm totally ripped

men's health ahahahahahaha!!!

[Rahf]

"Get a beach body" people read it and think "ooo.. Sounds good." Open the mag and see that it takes at least a year to accomplish anything even close to that.

[shengoikee]

"PUNCH LIKE ROCKY!"

[Theomacho]

Wtf.. I do have goals like these, but I don't prioritize them at the moment. This is probably as far as i got before injuries and depression made me a sissy.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/Theomacho/misc/haha009.jpg

[anfeyd]

Nice delts.

[compleks]

Nice delts indeed.

[Steve]

Haha his avatar is DEATH DEALER, he has to be strong

[TJ_Strong]

My own physique just 75lbs heavier

[G-sus]

THREAD REVIVE!

[Zeff]

Jan beat me to it.

http://www.davedraper.com/frank-zane.jpg

With slightly bigger legs though.

[Steve]

EW THAT'S TOO MUSCULAR

[Zeff]

LOL, I WANT A PHYSIQUE LIKE BRAD PITTS FROM FIGHT CLUB.

[Tony Nguyen]

nah.

[DraKe]

Here's my goal:
To look like spidey in the second movie!!

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/6347.jpg















The physique Zeff posted is great!

[Kitosho]

I don't really care what I look like, I only work out because I get to scream and spit and eat a ton of food

[Honken]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/254034201_37641475ee.jpg

Minus the facial expression, cow legs and huge clean grip.

[DeeJay]

Man Frank Zane is hot. I bet he got all the chicks.

[Bboy_Jon]

haha spiderman!

I want my abs to be huge and pop out real good!

[Zeff]

Take a closer look at "spider mans" crotch. You can see the outline of his pre-pubescent cock!

[frankinstine]

Haha true I forgot to post those. Although I don't reckon he cares too much about it since he's in fitness. All he cares about are dips and pull-ups.

Also guys, he's 31 mind you, he's got muscle maturity going for him, and he's been training for the past 7 years or so. I'd still kill for that physique, that is my aesthetical dream look (with the exception of legs) and if tricking was possible with that bod.. Weee!

i dont see why you couldn't trick like that. i see lots of cirque guys who look similar to this, and do tricks like a muthafucker.

[frankinstine]

does anyone want to look like this?

http://www.ndown.com/images/pg2/20060602121029_1.jpg

gaymax.:eh:

[Rahf]

i dont see why you couldn't trick like that. i see lots of cirque guys who look similar to this, and do tricks like a muthafucker.

The guy is huge. Pictures never make big people justice. He competed in Classic Bodybuilding and taking home 1st place. He weighs about 90kg and going down to 84ish on 182cm when competing. Granted you can trick effectively at that weight range but it's not optimal.

http://www.t-nation.com/avatar_images/49b5c-tnavatar.jpg

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/mytphotos/fullSize/647aa-

[compleks]

No worries. 84kgs at 182cm isn't even considered big these days.

[rock_ten]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5522/9847761143131797883ddbifv8.jpg

I wish I was that girl

[Rahf]

No worries. 84kgs at 182cm isn't even considered big these days.

At competition weight, it's pretty big. It still doesn't look that way until you actually see the person live infront of you.

[Theomacho]

I can't believe this. I posted here and ppl said nice things about my deltoids. And what do I do? I get a job, overturn while driving a 5500 lbs forklift, manage to make it crash on my knee, giving up on life and loosing 13 lbs while getting loads of acne. Luckily I'm dieting and training again. I'm small right now, but the gains are great.

Anyway here's my contribution to this thread:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w209/Theomacho/misc/WilliamsUlissesJr.jpg

[Steve]

Ulysses is gay mack, I want to have large blocky obliques (like the black man but more defined)

[hamelkarl]

I see too much bodbuilder who looks gay in here!

[540Ninja]

he has digustingly huge lats

[Final Prophecy]

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3107/photo6fy1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This picture was taken in shitty lighting conditions, only place i could get to a computer camera....cant see abs and obliques that well in this picture.

I'm gonna start bulking soon, I don't really give a shit about learning new tricks much anymore

[Shear]

Final prophecy u look a lot like me except you have more defined pecs

[Zeff]

You look like me when I was 12.

[Zeff]

But aren't you still 12? Ho ho ho.

[Scott]

This picture was taken in shitty lighting conditions, only place i could get to a computer camera....cant see abs and obliques that well in this picture.

I'm gonna start bulking soon, I don't really give a shit about learning new tricks much anymore


Lats lats lats jesus christ lats!
And shoulders. Start doing some deadlifts, pullups, and military press. And since your back is nonexistant I'll assume your legs are too, so start doing some squats and lunges. Your pecs are looking disproportionately good, well done. Judging by the size of your pecs and the veins in your biceps (which might just be the result of having no fat), I'd assume you're a "bench and curls" guy. DO EVERYTHING ELSE, IT WILL MAKE YOU MORE BALANCED/MUSS/DASHING!

[Ashtar]

I would be most content with such a physique. Then again, not that picky. All of these are great.

[Rahf]

Shear is sitting on what is normally called a "disco-physique". The difference would be that he lacks the real volume. More variation in your training damnit! Your whole body shall be included in the future.

[Honken]

Jesus christ that kid was born without a set of latissimus dorsi(s).

[Kitosho]

He's just skinny. My lats didn't really grow until I started gaining really significant weight; I had barely any lats until I got to around 170.

[Kitosho]

Also, the only aesthetic value I want is enormous forearms. And a beard.

[Birch]

Haha that post looks like you said you didnt grow lats until your 170th birthday lol

[540Ninja]

Can you work lats with a standing military press?

[Itachi]

never

[Rahf]

He's just skinny. My lats didn't really grow until I started gaining really significant weight; I had barely any lats until I got to around 170.

Still, there's not even a hint at V-shape as well as no visible lats at all. Also considering the "pose" he's throwing would bring out the lats at least abit.

540ninja, no. it's a press. Lats are worked with pulling exercises.

[Kitosho]

I actually dont care about his lats

[Skippy]

http://b8.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01321/82/69/1321559628_l.jpg
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2337833/2/istockphoto_2337833_men_s_body.jpg
http://a450.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/23/l_9aad49c3018a0b150bb6ae12415e68e1.jpg

Realistically along the lines of this. Not big, but noticeably in better shape than your average guy you see in the street. I really admire body builders and love the sport, but huge physiques aren't the kinda body I'd want.

[Kitosho]

i want to look like brad pitt in fight club

[Zeff]

Haha, that guy has demonic arms while the rest seems just above average.

[skywalker]

Haha Skippy... I was like... BOBBY!!!!

I so want to have Bobbys fitness, his muscles are like 100% power.

[Rahf]

Skippy, what would you guess the weight of the model in your picture at?

[Bboy_Jon]

his traps are huge

[Skippy]

I reckon he's about 165-170 lbs

[Scott]

That guys body is no bigger than mine, he just has more pronounced veins in his biceps, which I pwn by having hyooge shoulder veins.

[Final Prophecy]

Lats lats lats jesus christ lats!
And shoulders. Start doing some deadlifts, pullups, and military press. And since your back is nonexistant I'll assume your legs are too, so start doing some squats and lunges. Your pecs are looking disproportionately good, well done. Judging by the size of your pecs and the veins in your biceps (which might just be the result of having no fat), I'd assume you're a "bench and curls" guy. DO EVERYTHING ELSE, IT WILL MAKE YOU MORE BALANCED/MUSS/DASHING!

Pretty much everything you said is true. WOW. When I lift at home I just do bench, curl, abs. In the past I overtrained my legs and now it looks like its the other way around. :dead:. But yeah thanks alot for the advice.

Do handstand pushups help with shoulders by the way, and would they help with what you've told me?

[anfeyd]

Pullups.

[Scott]

Yes, they do. If you do them away from a wall, they'll also work your stabilizing muscles in your abs and lower back, and to an extent your traps and forearms since they have to keep you balanced. Your pecs look good man, but you don't want to neglect the muscles that you can't see in the mirror. They're your biggest/strongest ones.

[Final Prophecy]

Pullups.

Yes, they do. If you do them away from a wall, they'll also work your stabilizing muscles in your abs and lower back, and to an extent your traps and forearms since they have to keep you balanced. Your pecs look good man, but you don't want to neglect the muscles that you can't see in the mirror. They're your biggest/strongest ones.

Alright thanks for the advice

[Ashtar]

Can you work lats with a standing military press?
http://www.ironyoga.com/images/index_02.gif
http://www.ironyoga.com/images/index_06.gif
http://www.ironyoga.com/images/index_15.gif
Yes... but only if you use the secret art of IRON YOGA. Check your local library and read it.

[Zeff]

And Final Prophecy, if you don't mind, take some pictures now, and then take some in like 4 months. I'm sure you'll be impressed and the rest of us here wouldn't mind seeing your progress either. :good:

[Scott]

LEGZZZZZORZZZZ

[rock_ten]

In the past year I've had half a million calories of eggs.

[rock_ten]

whatever. if this was Antoine you'd be all over him

[Casper]

whatever. if this was Antoine you'd be all over him

but your not so you fail

[rock_ten]

but your not so you fail

*you're

[Skippy]

That guys body is no bigger than mine, he just has more pronounced veins in his biceps, which I pwn by having hyooge shoulder veins.

How much do you weigh Scott? also, how tall are you =P Just so I can get an idea of how about much you would weigh in proportion to my height incase you're super tall haha, that way I can work towards a goal =]

I found out in school today, I weigh 142lbs, before my shoulder injury I weighed 154 =[

Super gayz

[Casper]

*you're

i just got outta the gym my brains still dead cut me some slack :tongue:

[rock_ten]

i just got outta the gym my brains still dead cut me some slack :tongue:

I will if you acknowledge my heroic egg consumption.

[Ashtar]

Standing lat pulldown with dumbells. Focus on your lats! It's totally not a military press.
http://www.ironyoga.com/images/description_01.gif
Or just do this, because that's totally what the warrior is all about. Like, don't extend your back arm or anything, even if you're extending the front one. Don't be consistant or anything.

[JacktheHero]

super lean (bf <8%) and a weight of 70kg+ [155lb+] @1.75m [5''9'] is what I strive for.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Christiebiog.jpg

christie: 1.89m [6''3'] @ 84kg [185lb], bf 6-8% (?)

[Casper]

I will if you acknowledge my heroic egg consumption.

deal

HALF A MILLION

OH EM GEE MOFO!!!!!!

[rock_ten]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1001/10705351148068494539sbtat1.jpg

perfection


Rather plain and normal

[frankinstine]

haha. i lol'ed at that. not the pic, but the caption.

[Scott]

How much do you weigh Scott? also, how tall are you =P Just so I can get an idea of how about much you would weigh in proportion to my height incase you're super tall haha, that way I can work towards a goal =]

I found out in school today, I weigh 142lbs, before my shoulder injury I weighed 154 =[

Super gayz

I'm around 190 at 6'. Currently more like 186-187 actually, but that's my completely-empty-dehydrated-hungry weight.

[Honken]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg

Now that's an ideal physique. Olympic weightlifting ftw.

[Kitosho]

ZOMG who is that? is that dimas?

[Kitosho]

http://www.usa-gymnastics.org/events/2001/reeses/sw16.jpg


jordan jovtchev in clown pants FTW

[Birch]

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dar2.jpg
http://static.zooomr.com/images/516042_65a2aaf6d8_o.jpg
NO ONE CAN COMPARE WITH DAR!!!!

[Casper]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg

Now that's an ideal physique. Olympic weightlifting ftw.

he just won his weight class didnt he???

he does look amazing man

[Yuri]

that guys legs are monstrous

[Scott]

I like that you can see the vascularity in his quads through the fucking pants. Awesome. Today is leg day!

[JacktheHero]

Now that's an ideal physique. Olympic weightlifting ftw.
wow, awesome. so who's that? pyrros dimas?

I like his legs, even though to most people they must look disgusting.

[Skippy]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg

Now that's an ideal physique. Olympic weightlifting ftw.

Fuck me now that is a top class physique, not too big, cut to hell.
Jesusssss.

His quads are just....you could feed all of africa with one of those quads

[Kitosho]

He has quads like Simon Belmont.

[Kitosho]

SPROOIIIINNGGGG *grabs floating turkey leg*

[Yuri]

i bet dimas has to specially custom order pants because there are none that fit his legs

but what about the physique of an old time strongman like sandow:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Sandow,_Eugene_-_1889_by_Henry_Van_der_Weyde_(1838-1924).jpg/453px-Sandow,_Eugene_-_1889_by_Henry_Van_der_Weyde_(1838-1924).jpg

or maybe maxick, the master of muscle control:
http://www.maxalding.co.uk/colourmax-small.jpg

[rock_ten]

Georg Hackenschmidt, this a valid pic:
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1627/3e10bhackenschmidtdj8.jpg

[rock_ten]

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6853/e8af7869256113622130992rz8.jpg

[anfeyd]

I don't know--that doesn't look like Dimas to me. However, I'm no expert.

[Trickstar]

http://www.worldsstrongestman.net/images/pic6.jpg

This is the look every man should be going for. THE WIN!!!

[Rahf]

Pudzianowski is a beast. A strong man with a low BF is pretty awesome. Too bad he got busted on doping during one of the championships.

[acidhell1]

this Ol. weightlifter's physique is cool! he's not that big, but he has very dense muscles for his light bodyweight.. most strength/power athletes are this way, except bodybuilders.

heres me, @ pardoxically only 75kg ±~10%bf. (5"9') coming off multiple injuries (2 strained hamstrings, lower back injury)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2038/photo6sp7.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo6sp7.jpg)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7903/photo7dg3.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo7dg3.jpg)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7854/photo11tj2.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo11tj2.jpg)

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/166/photo10qf5.th.jpg (http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo10qf5.jpg)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2065/photo13yx4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo13yx4.jpg)

I dont like bodybuilders' physiques. Too big.
Look at some sports like OL lighter classes (77-94), or track and field (60-100-200m sprints, long jump etc) and u ll see plenty of athletic physiques who perform equally impressive.

[anfeyd]

this Ol. weightlifter's physique is cool! he's not that big, but he has very dense muscles for his light bodyweight.. most strength/power athletes are this way, except bodybuilders.

Maybe that is because bodybuilders are not strength/power athletes.

[Trickstar]

Strongman physique is the best.

[compleks]

Physique and performance are two different things.

[Kon-El]

and yet performance + physique = win!

(yes yes i know, it depends ultimately on what you're performing, i doubt sumo wrestlers can fit into the above equation)

[chicanerous]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg

Now that's an ideal physique. Olympic weightlifting ftw.

Ivan Stoitsov?

[Honken]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg
Ivan Stoitsov.

http://www.greece-2004.com/Pyrros-Dimas/pic3.jpg
Pyrros Dimas.

There aren't many (if any) physique pictures of Dimas, but if you watch him lift you can tell that he's extremely 'fit'.

[Steve]

An olympic lifter's physique would be good except that I like to be able to run long distances without burning my nuts off

[Ashtar]

Avoiding the thigh chafe yes?

[Honken]

I can see what you mean... even though elite OL'ers are world class sprinters and jumpers they still have better nuts than bikers.

[Theomacho]

or maybe maxick, the master of muscle control:
http://www.maxalding.co.uk/colourmax-small.jpg

You mean the man without a torso?

[Karlnold]

Pudzianowski is a beast. A strong man with a low BF is pretty awesome. Too bad he got busted on doping during one of the championships.

Shocking, wasn't it?

[Rahf]

Shocking, wasn't it?

I've never been so sad in my life.. Suicidal is more like it. I mean wow.. I mean.. What the hell am I meaning?

Nah not really, wouldn't matter if he was on anything or not I reckon. He's still a beast.

[JacktheHero]

In my opinion Max Alding's body is really ugly..
some of his exercises are quite sick:

http://www.maxalding.co.uk/mc-book-photos/fig16.jpg

[Karlnold]

In what way are they sick?

[Kitosho]

o noes mariuzzuzusususz why did you use the bad drugs wrryyyy

[Kitosho]

Drugs are awesome, especially performance-enhancing drugs. I think everybody should use steroids.

[JacktheHero]

In what way are they sick?
sick as in crazy :smile:
what he does with his muscles looks kinda abnormal

[Kitosho]

He's doing an abdominal vacuum, you buffoon.

[rock_ten]

Drugs are awesome, especially performance-enhancing drugs. I think everybody should use steroids.

but injecting is scary

[Steve]

but injecting is scary

That's what she said

[Fanya]

I can see what you mean... even though elite OL'ers are world class sprinters and jumpers they still have better nuts than bikers.

Not world class. Sprinting requires more than acceleration through 30 meters and jumping requires more than a fast-twitch posterior chain. Granted, the skills of sprinting and jumping go hand-in-hand-in-hand with OLing, but to say that that OL lifters are world class in those categories is absurd.

[Honken]

Not world class. Sprinting requires more than acceleration through 30 meters and jumping requires more than a fast-twitch posterior chain. Granted, the skills of sprinting and jumping go hand-in-hand-in-hand with OLing, but to say that that OL lifters are world class in those categories is absurd.

No it's not.

In the Mexico City Olympic Games (1968) a study was conducted where it was stated that olympic weightlifters outjumped the longjumpers in standing and running longjumps and outran sprinters in the 25m and 50m dash.

And I didn't say weightlifters in general, I said elite (by that implying world class lifters).

Some weightlifters in the 105kg class have verticals ranging up to 42".

[Steve]

Ha ha, as if long jumpers' verticals do no exceed 42 inches

[Fanya]

No it's not.

In the Mexico City Olympic Games (1968) a study was conducted where it was stated that olympic weightlifters outjumped the longjumpers in standing and running longjumps and outran sprinters in the 25m and 50m dash.

And I didn't say weightlifters in general, I said elite (by that implying world class lifters).

Some weightlifters in the 105kg class have verticals ranging up to 42".

So what are some names of olympic lifters who have competed in world-class competitions in sprinting and jumping?

I am not trying to deny that they don't have good verticals, or sprint [extremely] short distances well, but your posts make it seem as if you believe that olympic lifting is the solution to all the problems in the world.

[Ashtar]

The man without a torso, awesome :)
sick as in crazy :smile:
what he does with his muscles looks kinda abnormal
That's because they are abnormal. People do not normally do them. They are indeed awesome.

I believe some people have actually surpassed what Maxick was capable of doing. I won't say for sure since we don't totally know, just what was illustrated in his books or television. If Maxick had a YouTube, we might have possibly seen things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sldbsAzqf8

[Honken]

Ha ha, as if long jumpers' verticals do no exceed 42 inches

But long jumpers don't weigh 105kg. I don't know what vertical the 69-77 or so have, but I've seen some bulgarians do box jumps way over their own head level.

So what are some names of olympic lifters who have competed in world-class competitions in sprinting and jumping?

None. Why? If you're a weightlifter you're a weightlifter, but I can tell you this that the majority of world-class sprinters and jumpers have good O-lifts (weight wise).

but your posts make it seem as if you believe that olympic lifting is the solution to all the problems in the world

Isn't it?

[Casper]

honken your post just gave me an erection

[hamelkarl]

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/308000/308047NTvS_w.jpg

I wish I could be like that!

[Skilzat85X]

In the Mexico City Olympic Games (1968) a study was conducted where it was stated that olympic weightlifters outjumped the longjumpers in standing and running longjumps and outran sprinters in the 25m and 50m dash.

Well, who the heck are these long jumpers and who are these sprinters.

Are they WORLD class long jumpers and sprinters? I mean, you're comparing different degrees of skill per sport. They could be mediocre sprinters and elite o-lifters. To properly compare, you'd need to compare basically the best of both categories.

[chicanerous]

So what are some names of olympic lifters who have competed in world-class competitions in sprinting and jumping?

I am not trying to deny that they don't have good verticals, or sprint [extremely] short distances well, but your posts make it seem as if you believe that olympic lifting is the solution to all the problems in the world.
He's only been saying that the power output of elite level weightlifters is comparable to or greater than elite level sprinters and jumpers over short distances and that they have comparable or greater vertical leaps.

If I remember correctly, Honken was wrong to say in the long jump because I don't believe they were tested in it, as it involves considerable technique, which would have skewed the results of the tests. And, this statement should be qualified by saying "at the Mexico City Olympics." I'm not aware of any more recent studies, though I don't doubt that the athletes would still at least be comparable in these tests.

Well, who the heck are these long jumpers and who are these sprinters.

Are they WORLD class long jumpers and sprinters? I mean, you're comparing different degrees of skill per sport. They could be mediocre sprinters and elite o-lifters. To properly compare, you'd need to compare basically the best of both categories.
No, they mean Olympic level sprinters and jumpers. Supposedly, a bunch of scientists gathered up Olympic athletes at the Mexico City Games from many different sports, tested them, and compared results. The weightlifters had the fastest sprint times over short distances (25 m sprint) and the highest verticals among all athletes (including the sprinters and jumpers). That's not to say that there weren't some Olympic sprinters and jumpers that could best them, but that overall weightlifters won out.

[Fanya]

He's only been saying that the power output of elite level weightlifters is comparable to or greater than elite level sprinters and jumpers over short distances and that they have comparable or greater vertical leaps.


I'm familiar with the studies that were performed and I'm not arguing against them, but I don't know if Honken realizes the differences between power output and actual competition. For example, a 105kg powerlifter may have a 40in vert, but he's not going to pwn Stefan Holm in the high jump, as much as he may dream about it. Pie eating contest, that's another story.

[anfeyd]

http://inno-sport.net/Why%20do%20coaches%20use%20olympic%20lifts.htm

[Ashtar]

At first I was going to shout 'well then why aren't the olympic lifters taking these events and winning them'.

Then I realized: they're not being tested in the olympic events.

There is no 25m sprint. There's I think, the 60m and the 100m as the shortest sprints. I think similar things about sprinting have been said about football linemen too.

With vertical jump, they're likely talking about moving the whole mass, and not the feet. Most likely, doing the thing where you reach and touch overhead, and then jump again and measure the difference.

This is very different from the high jump where you don't just jump, but you lift your feet up over the bar as well, in either a flop or scissors. I doubt they were testing that. It is a very complex skill compared to just jumping straight up.

[Kon-El]

no one does scissors anymore, just so you know..

[Steve]

But long jumpers don't weigh 105kg. I don't know what vertical the 69-77 or so have, but I've seen some bulgarians do box jumps way over their own head level.

It's not like it's particularly impressive for someone who's been training for years either, I am 190 pounds and I have a 36 inch vertical

[Fanya]

At first I was going to shout 'well then why aren't the olympic lifters taking these events and winning them'.

Then I realized: they're not being tested in the olympic events.

There is no 25m sprint. There's I think, the 60m and the 100m as the shortest sprints. I think similar things about sprinting have been said about football linemen too.

With vertical jump, they're likely talking about moving the whole mass, and not the feet. Most likely, doing the thing where you reach and touch overhead, and then jump again and measure the difference.

This is very different from the high jump where you don't just jump, but you lift your feet up over the bar as well, in either a flop or scissors. I doubt they were testing that. It is a very complex skill compared to just jumping straight up.

Yes, thank you Tyciol.

[Never thought I'd say that]

[rock_ten]

That's what she said

My dreams last night included someone injecting into their quad, and me being scared by it.

[Honken]

For example, a 105kg powerlifter may have a 40in vert, but he's not going to pwn Stefan Holm in the high jump, as much as he may dream about it.

Who said anything about powerlifters? I wasn't comparing the heavyweights with the mexico city study, the study doesen't tell which weight the lifters were in, just that they outran and outjumped the other athletes (which were all competing at the games making them world class).

It's not like it's particularly impressive for someone who's been training for years either

You don't consider a 5'8-5'9" or so box jump impressive?

[Vik]

http://goldsea.com/Personalities2/Shourobin/robin2.jpg

[Bboy_Jon]

i never noticed how thick the dude from mortal kombat was

i would like to look like him

[Yuri]

robin shou's nipples look like milk duds

[short gorilla]

robin shou's nipples look like milk duds

Hahaha... I'll never look at him the same way again.

[Ashtar]

i never noticed how thick the dude from mortal kombat was

i would like to look like him

It's because you can't help but look at anything besides his hair, it's so soft.

[kamikaze!]

http://www.boxingdaily.co.uk/wp-content/img/notasixer.JPG

[Final Prophecy]

I am 190 pounds and I have a 36 inch vertical

Woah.

[Karlnold]

http://www.patrikiden.com/images/sergio.jpg

[shengoikee]

http://www.zoobooks.com/newFrontPage/animals/virtualZoo/animals/g/gorillas/images/gorilla.gif

[Karlnold]

That is a physique worth striving for, what a muss magnificent animal!