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The_Mayor
Mar-30-07, 12:41 PM
Hey, I've been lurking around here for the past 2-3 years and finally decided to register.
Anyway, I started bulking again this week and I'm currently eating around 2,500 calories a day, which I'll gradually increase, but I was wondering if I should decrease my calories on rest days (Saturday and/or Sunday) since I won't be doing much activity.
Yes. Decrease them slightly.
It shouldn't be a big problem since you won't be having serious food cravings after a workout.
Swartz
Mar-30-07, 12:55 PM
I'd probably just stay the same. Easier to keep it as a habit too.
Besides, even though you're not working out, you ARE recovering, so your body is still going to need shit to grow.
What Swartz said, although you could make a couple minor changes, like on your rest days you won't be taking any peri-workout shakes so that'll decrease your intake slightly, and the meal that follows your workouts will probably contain more carbohydrates than the corresponding rest day meal.
mr popular
Mar-30-07, 10:50 PM
FIRST OF ALL
WHY ARE YOU ONLY EATING 2500 CALORIES A DAY!?
That amount does not even qualify as the MINIMUM you should be consuming to gain weight. You should be eating AT LEAST 3200 at your weight right now if you want to make gains.
So the answer is, no you should not decrease calories, because (a) rest days are used for recovery so you still need the nutrients and calories, and (b) You aren't fucking eating enough to begin with
compleks
Mar-30-07, 11:51 PM
fuck!
Swartz
Mar-31-07, 01:11 AM
Haha it's wonderful to see such posts from you compleks. I remember when you were oh so patient with such questions.
compleks
Mar-31-07, 01:27 AM
Yeah, I should be stripped of my awards.
Swartz
Mar-31-07, 01:36 AM
Well if you are give them to me. I DESERVE them.
Give them to Chicanerous, he's been the most useful as of late. You could award Brian with "Most aggravated and argumentative person". :tongue:
*Edit* Btw Brian, he/she/it did mention that they're going to increase their caloric intake gradually. Whatever that means..
Swartz
Mar-31-07, 02:29 AM
Give them to Chicanerous, he's been the most useful as of late. You could award Brian with "Most aggravated and argumentative person". :tongue:
*Edit* Btw Brian, he/she/it did mention that they're going to increase their caloric intake gradually. Whatever that means..
Chicanerous hasn't done SHIT! I've done EVERYTHING.
compleks
Mar-31-07, 02:49 AM
I'm keeping them, because they make me happy.
But, here is a template for the rest of you moochers:
HEY *insert name here*!, I'm hacking your signature to say you're a *insert complimentary characteristic here* person! I reward you with "The *insert complimentary characteristic here* person award", enjoy it friend! - *Insert awarder here*
Swartz
Mar-31-07, 03:04 AM
Yeah seriously I could and should do that. That's why your sig is such a joke! haha!
compleks
Mar-31-07, 03:11 AM
Too bad mine is legit!
Here you go.
HEY SWARTZ!, I'm hacking your signature to say you're a funny person! I reward you with "The funny person award", enjoy it friend! - Compleks
Swartz
Mar-31-07, 03:18 AM
Yeah that's a start.
Unfortunately for you there's no proof of yours being legit, except I sort of remember the whole bullshit from Juji hahaha. Just kidding buddy.
The_Mayor
Mar-31-07, 04:40 AM
FIRST OF ALL
WHY ARE YOU ONLY EATING 2500 CALORIES A DAY!?
That amount does not even qualify as the MINIMUM you should be consuming to gain weight. You should be eating AT LEAST 3200 at your weight right now if you want to make gains.
So the answer is, no you should not decrease calories, because (a) rest days are used for recovery so you still need the nutrients and calories, and (b) You aren't fucking eating enough to begin with
I wasn't sure how many calories I should be consuming and I didn't want to overeat so I was just going to start at 2,500. I'll start eating more then. Thanks everyone for the replies.
rock_ten
Mar-31-07, 05:06 AM
starting at 2500 is fine. You risk gaining a lot of fat quickly if you jump in with a high calorie intake. Back in the day I was eating about 2500-2700 and gained about 35lbs, mostly fat. Everyone on BB.com was like BRO YOU GOTSTA EAT MORE MAN, MORE !!!!11111
If you don't gain weight at 2500, then increase it. Wait to see how you respond to this amount of food first.
compleks
Mar-31-07, 05:18 AM
HEY ROCK_TEN!, I'm hacking your signature to say you're a most unusual person! I reward you with "The most unusual person award", enjoy it friend! - Compleks
compleks
Mar-31-07, 05:19 AM
Report here to receive your awards.
limited to one per person.
rock_ten
Mar-31-07, 06:31 AM
HEY ROCK_TEN!, I'm hacking your signature to say you're a most unusual person! I reward you with "The most unusual person award", enjoy it friend! - Compleks
it didn't work - I think you accidentaly typed that in a post instead of hacking my signature with it.
you are not leet hacksaw.
Where the hell is Juji anyway
mr popular
Mar-31-07, 07:14 AM
I wasn't sure how many calories I should be consuming and I didn't want to overeat so I was just going to start at 2,500. I'll start eating more then. Thanks everyone for the replies.
You didn't want to overeat?
::::::::::::::NEWSFLASH::::::::::::::
You cannot build muscle without overeating!!! Did you think it just magically wafts down from heaven onto your body if you wish hard enough?
I believe I already stated that you should be eating at least 3200 calories to start, at your bodyweight right now.
After 4 weeks of doing that consistently, see how much weight you've gained.
If you have gained 4-5 pounds, then good. Up your caloric intake by 100 and keep going!
If you have only gained 1-3 pounds, then up it a little more for the next 4 weeks.
The key here, is that you have to be giving your muscles enough stimulation to actually be using all the extra fuel you are giving it towards synthesizing new muscle.
Just monitor your progress visually, as well as on the scale... If you want to gain the optimum amount of muscle in the least amount of time, you will have to accept a slight fat gain. However, by gaining muscle at the same rate, your bodyfat % won't necessarily change at all, even if you do gain some fat!
But you have to make sure that your muscles get enough volume, and enough progress in load to actually be forced to grow.
~Brian
Juji is still discovering himself.
Or you could be like Valentine Michael Smith and think all your muscles into place
anfeyd
Mar-31-07, 09:29 AM
You didn't want to overeat?
::::::::::::::NEWSFLASH::::::::::::::
You cannot build muscle without overeating!!! Did you think it just magically wafts down from heaven onto your body if you wish hard enough?
I believe I already stated that you should be eating at least 3200 calories to start, at your bodyweight right now.
After 4 weeks of doing that consistently, see how much weight you've gained.
If you have gained 4-5 pounds, then good. Up your caloric intake by 100 and keep going!
If you have only gained 1-3 pounds, then up it a little more for the next 4 weeks.
The key here, is that you have to be giving your muscles enough stimulation to actually be using all the extra fuel you are giving it towards synthesizing new muscle.
Just monitor your progress visually, as well as on the scale... If you want to gain the optimum amount of muscle in the least amount of time, you will have to accept a slight fat gain. However, by gaining muscle at the same rate, your bodyfat % won't necessarily change at all, even if you do gain some fat!
But you have to make sure that your muscles get enough volume, and enough progress in load to actually be forced to grow.
~Brian
If you go from eating less than 2000 kcal (i'm assuming he was because he thinks 2500 is a lot), then jumping 1200 calories immediately is begging for disaster.
2500 calories is roughly what a normal person should eat if they have a boring ass deskjob and lurks on TT during their free time. If you train, then you're going to need alot more. Use the Harris&Benedict equation if you want a somewhat of a nice figure. There are other methods of calculating intake as well.
Remember to not measure your intake on just a daily basis but on a larger scale. Think weeks instead of days and months instead of weeks. That's when you'll get surprised at good gains.
The_Mayor
Mar-31-07, 02:33 PM
2500 calories is roughly what a normal person should eat if they have a boring ass deskjob and lurks on TT during their free time. If you train, then you're going to need alot more. Use the Harris&Benedict equation if you want a somewhat of a nice figure. There are other methods of calculating intake as well.
Remember to not measure your intake on just a daily basis but on a larger scale. Think weeks instead of days and months instead of weeks. That's when you'll get surprised at good gains.
Yeah, according to that I'm around 3,000. Since I have football practice, mainly consisting of agility/conditioning drills, in addition to working out, should I just go for 3,500?
Yeah, according to that I'm around 3,000. Since I have football practice, mainly consisting of agility/conditioning drills, in addition to working out, should I just go for 3,500?
Don't count them. Counting is overkill and something you should do in a cut if you're not losing weight.
Eat more food and monitor your weight every week. Eat 5-6 times a day, this makes it easier to get more calories in.
compleks
Mar-31-07, 04:23 PM
Browsing TT usually burns alot of calories.
Karlnold
Mar-31-07, 04:48 PM
Because of the screaming?
The_Mayor
Mar-31-07, 04:56 PM
It could also be the overabundance of branling.
shengoikee
Mar-31-07, 05:04 PM
Because of the screaming?
hahaha!
Ashtar
Apr-04-07, 07:05 AM
The reverse of 'you cannot build muscle without overeating' would be 'you cannot lose muscle without undereating' right?
Hmmm. I think the missing component here is exercise. Caloric balance generally describes it, but since things are added in spurts and phases, it doesn't do it entirely. Otherwise it would be impossible to keep muscle it undereating.
mr popular
Apr-04-07, 09:17 PM
What? I'm not sure if that actually made sense...
If you want to put on muscle (or fat haha), you must overeat (or rather, eat the appropriate amount of excess calories in order to gain weight consistently)
If you want to lose fat (or muscle..) you have to undereat, or consume less than you are burning so that your body relies on it's own resources for energy.
And of course fat gain can be minimized when gaining muscle, but I believe that it should be accepted to a certain degree because that will allow to the fastest muscle gains.
And muscle loss can also be minimized by being sure to eat enough protein and exercise intelligently so that your body understands it must not use the muscles for fuel.
Lowering calories on a rest day is a bad idea because you cannot predict when any given muscle at any given time will grow, so what if your muscle was primed to grow on one of your rest days, but it didn't have the fuel necessary to do so?
You would simply be limiting your results.
But that seems to be the popular thing to do nowadays... limiting your results.....
~Brian
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