My Bugly Twist

[FatTricks]

Please help!!!!!
It's utterly ugly and inefficient. I can't impress anyone with it, and I can't even swing thru.
I know all the steps, and I've read all the tutorials, but the proper way just elludes me. And trust me this move is not new for me....I've been trying since 1996.

Any tips please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDDGw_XDp2w

[Karate-Obi]

your front foot thats planted. You have it pointing forwards point it sideways instead you should find that you twist into it sideways

[Scott]

You don't stall at all, you try to twist right off the ground from an awkward angle which means you get zero height. To swingthru, you'll need to get comfortable doing it nice and high (stall, THEN twist), and learn to turn your body in the air so that you land facing the direction from which you came, so your momentum can travel in a nice efficient straight path.

[Less than Dan]

your front foot thats planted. You have it pointing forwards point it sideways instead you should find that you twist into it sideways

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong times one thousand.

Think of this in this way: the b-kick take off is just about the same as the aerial take off. The same mechanics are applied: the front leg is bent and punched off of, the back leg is raised as hard as possible. Now, if you were to plant your foot sideways in an aerial, what would happen? Planting your foot sideways in the b-twist seriously gimps your ability to punch off the ground, and the control of the lift.

Hold on, my friend. Let me further analyze your video...

First thing I notice, is that you're FORCING yourself to twist as soon as the leg is lifted. Now, it's not just the fact that you're not lifting your leg enough, but you're tampering with the rhythm of this move by forcing yourself to twist (note your arms) as soon as you leave the ground.

Two, take note of your dip. Your dip needs to be deeper on the vertical plane. Why? Notice your front leg. Without a deep dip, your front leg isn't fully capable of getting it's full bend, and eventually, punch. Try a deeper dip.

Three, you need to learn that move relies heavily on a "rhythm". It's a very harmonious trick, really. Everything has a set time and pace, this move is like a machine. Think of it this way...

The dip is "1"
Then, the kick up and punch off is "2"
The twist is "3"
The kick out to land and landing is "4"

Count aloud.

1, 2...3, 4.

Develop a sense of rhythm for this move. It will help give your leg time to travel farther up, help your punch fully extend, and help your body set for the twist.

1, 2...3, 4.

Hmm...

The reason you're diving straight into it, is because, as mentioned before, you're not dipping down enough vertically. You're treating this move as a "up and forward move", rather, the b-twist idealy should travel very little and go up as much as possible. On your next b-twist, dip down more and think UP with your whole body. OPEN AND LIFT THE CHEST (but not your head).

How are your b-kicks? If you feel you get much more height out of them, then do a few before attempting your b-twist. It will help your body adjust to kicking up as hard as you can.

I hope this helps, sir :)

[MasterSword]

nice analyzation dan... it was deep

[FatTricks]

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong times one thousand.

Think of this in this way: the b-kick take off is just about the same as the aerial take off. The same mechanics are applied: the front leg is bent and punched off of, the back leg is raised as hard as possible. Now, if you were to plant your foot sideways in an aerial, what would happen? Planting your foot sideways in the b-twist seriously gimps your ability to punch off the ground, and the control of the lift.

Hold on, my friend. Let me further analyze your video...

First thing I notice, is that you're FORCING yourself to twist as soon as the leg is lifted. Now, it's not just the fact that you're not lifting your leg enough, but you're tampering with the rhythm of this move by forcing yourself to twist (note your arms) as soon as you leave the ground.

Two, take note of your dip. Your dip needs to be deeper on the vertical plane. Why? Notice your front leg. Without a deep dip, your front leg isn't fully capable of getting it's full bend, and eventually, punch. Try a deeper dip.

Three, you need to learn that move relies heavily on a "rhythm". It's a very harmonious trick, really. Everything has a set time and pace, this move is like a machine. Think of it this way...

The dip is "1"
Then, the kick up and punch off is "2"
The twist is "3"
The kick out to land and landing is "4"

Count aloud.

1, 2...3, 4.

Develop a sense of rhythm for this move. It will help give your leg time to travel farther up, help your punch fully extend, and help your body set for the twist.

1, 2...3, 4.

Hmm...

The reason you're diving straight into it, is because, as mentioned before, you're not dipping down enough vertically. You're treating this move as a "up and forward move", rather, the b-twist idealy should travel very little and go up as much as possible. On your next b-twist, dip down more and think UP with your whole body. OPEN AND LIFT THE CHEST (but not your head).

How are your b-kicks? If you feel you get much more height out of them, then do a few before attempting your b-twist. It will help your body adjust to kicking up as hard as you can.

I hope this helps, sir :)


Oh shit. You've made me a happy man! Rhythm? Well, I've never thought of it like that! 1,2,3,4. I think this is going to help me shitloads. I'm excited to give it a go. I guess I'm just gonna have to suck it up and do my highest Bkick EVERRRRR and at the peak, just roll it over.

I'm just really terrified of getting another injury. I've put on alot of mileage(14 years) in my tricking journey, and the warranty has run out. 245 lbs is too much weight to just callously toss around. Not to mention I don't have the luxury of mats, or plyometric floors (on which I've only been on 5 times!).

Waaaah waaaah, Boo Hoo! *cues pity party*


NOW with this newfound knowledge bestowed upon me by the MIGHTY LessthanDan.....I shall conquor this beast.

As soon as I get a chance to trick....I'll let you know the results!

Thanks dude.:wicked:

[aboyandhisrobot]

Hey Fattricks, I feel your pain. I'm sittin at about 235lbs and I just started to get my btwists back after 3 years off and the addition of 35lbs (hooray for getting married).

One cool thing is watching all the skinny people's eye get wide when they see me doing things they cant.

For what it's worth, I haven't been able to really hurt myself trying a btwist at my weight.

[Shido]

Your just not throwing your back leg up enough carson! Once you do that, it will all come together. :good:

[FatTricks]

Hey Fattricks, I feel your pain. I'm sittin at about 235lbs and I just started to get my btwists back after 3 years off and the addition of 35lbs (hooray for getting married).

One cool thing is watching all the skinny people's eye get wide when they see me doing things they cant.

For what it's worth, I haven't been able to really hurt myself trying a btwist at my weight.

But my ankles.....*shudders with a cold sweat* *sHiFty eYes*

Your just not throwing your back leg up enough carson! Once you do that, it will all come together. :good:


Yo son that cement Btwist after Ihop was the shit!!!! The funny thing is that, I know I should throw the back up....but I cant seem to. It's weird....it's like my body takes over and doesn't let me kick up-----BUT THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE----I think I've set up the WORST of all the bad habits of what NOT to do in a btwist. I've been doing it this way since '96. Although, it took me until 2006 to finally start landing them....I think my body just adapted to all these "bad" habits and i started landing these btwist imposters.

The weirdest of all is that I can do okay Bkicks - anytime-anywhere-Trickster-aerials (inverted bkicks)- and on a GREAT day a gymnast aerial. I dont get it. I think the culprit is years of improper practice drilled into my body.

Okay.....enough rants. HahaaaPuahahhahaahahee