how do you make a sessh sig?

[Vaughnya]

so how do i make one? with the green/ red bars and the precent thing....what is CCW or whatever it is?

boxcutter in class D and double cork in class F?????

[pete_man_man]

just copy and paste someone else's and replace the info with your's

[Vaughnya]

wow, thats easy....couldn't figure that one out myself haha.

thanks

[pete_man_man]

wow, thats easy....couldn't figure that one out myself haha.

thanks

:juji:

[Karate-Obi]

as for ccw and cw that means counter clockwise and clockwise (i hope)

[Vaughnya]

thanks

but wouldn't it be easier to say...spin:left/right

[Skilzat85X]

NOPE!

Because for instance once you get into windmills/air flares you're going over your LEFT side if you usually go over your RIGHT side when you do like 720's corks whatever.

Somebody should just paste the code lol.

[Vaughnya]

wait a minute!!!! i was just looking over the sessh list of tricks and he listed a boxcutter in class D and then listed double cork in class F...i thought boxcutter was a double cork with a hook? im i missing something?

[tompolo]

boxcutter is a cork with hook not dub cork with hook

[kinetic]

Its a hypercork with a hook.

[Swartz]

This is just another way of making a trick list in my opinion. Now it's just under sessh's trick classes with a bunch of bars representing percentage.

...

[Hez]

This is just another way of making a trick list in my opinion. Now it's just under sessh's trick classes with a bunch of bars representing percentage.

...

Why "in your opinion" haha, that's fact, it's just a trendy pimped out trick list.

[flipster]

i agree swartz... i think it's kinda lame and i don't think people will be interested in someone's trick/skill-class-completion percentages. At least i don't...at all

[Vaughnya]

boxcutter is a cork with hook not dub cork with hook

wow, well ive been wrong for a long time then and so is club540.com tricktionary. in that case.....i can do a boxcutter, sweet!

oh yeah, after i looked up the percent of tricks i can do using sessh's tricktionary thing, it made me feel like a noob and small. i can do tricks like boxcutter, swipeknife, gainer full and x-out full but that sig made me feel like a noob. so im not putting it up

[alpha7158]

here is the code copied from my sig. It is in a txt file.
http://www.divshare.com/download/363920-7d0

[cepopeye]

haha Ukrainian has a better gfull than dogen

[alpha7158]

wow, well ive been wrong for a long time then and so is club540.com tricktionary. in that case.....i can do a boxcutter, sweet!

oh yeah, after i looked up the percent of tricks i can do using sessh's tricktionary thing, it made me feel like a noob and small. i can do tricks like boxcutter, swipeknife, gainer full and x-out full but that sig made me feel like a noob. so im not putting it up

Lets get this straight, a boxcutter is a hyper corkscrew with a hook. because corks aren't supposed to be inverted in order to land one you should be spinning 540 degrees. In the case of a hyper cork the act of hypering usualy adds an extra 18 degrees of rotation onto the end of the move; so in that respect club540 is correct in saying you spin 720 degrees. A double cork is actualy 900 degrees of rotation.

[Vaughnya]

thanks alpha but im not making one anymore...lost intrest that fast, lol. and now i get it by what he means 720 spin.

thanks cepopeye for the compliment...i never used j-turn set ups until i watched his tut

[Vaughnya]

haha Ukrainian has a better gfull than dogen

if you wanna see it more clearly.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcj20Uhm_p4

[rocketbaz]

i agree swartz... i think it's kinda lame and i don't think people will be interested in someone's trick/skill-class-completion percentages. At least i don't...at all

I like em. fun to see how good ppl are and see them get better.

[Matt R]

not a gfull

[Vaughnya]

not a gfull

what do you mean?

[Matt R]

its not a gfull your not upside down

its a cork

[alpha7158]

its not a gfull your not upside down

its a cork

it is hard to judge due to the size of the avatar

[Matt R]

he posted a youtube link

[Vaughnya]

its not a gfull your not upside down

its a cork

what? you can clearly see that my body is completely flipping....legs over hips and hips over head. are you watching the same video? i can do g switch to cork too and they look nothing like my g switch to g fulls.

[Vaughnya]

it is hard to judge due to the size of the avatar

i posted the link on page 2

[Matt R]

you saying your upside down?

[Vaughnya]

im not saying, im showing you...i dont get it how you cant not see it. im completely upside down

[Matt R]

lol your body is horizontal

you legs are sticking up and your body is horizontal

cork

[alpha7158]

I'd say it is inverted enough to be a gainer full.

[Matt R]

if you look properly, halfway through the trick his body is horizontal

+ i only count gfulls as upside downnn

[rocketbaz]

here is the code copied from my sig. It is in a txt file.
http://www.divshare.com/download/363920-7d0

thx alpha :)

[Vaughnya]

if you look properly, halfway through the trick his body is horizontal

+ i only count gfulls as upside downnn

of course its horizontal, then it flips vertical then horizontal again then on my feet. i still dont get it how you think its a cork...everyone has told me its a gfull. your the only one.

[Matt R]

a gainer full should be upside down the whole time

you just said yourself its horizontal

whatever i dont care that much

[shengoikee]

your avatar is freakin hawt matthew :shocked:

[skywalker]

What defines a trick as being in Class A? And Class B? etc.

[Rain]

Read Sesshomaru' "Tricking Bible"

[SickPanda]

matt r strikes again!

i think that the sessh sig idea is bad simply because it doesn't allow for how good your execution is, it's impossible to list out every trick & variations, and it implies that you can always do any of those tricks that you've "marked off." it's silly and nonconducive to forward progress to try and keep all your tricks all the time (at least after you have progressed past a certain level). juji is totally spot-on (at least for anyone who doesn't trick like 12 hours a day) about periodization of tricks that aren't part of the "main arsenal" you like to always be able to do.

[Swartz]

matt r strikes again!

i think that the sessh sig idea is bad simply because it doesn't allow for how good your execution is, it's impossible to list out every trick & variations, and it implies that you can always do any of those tricks that you've "marked off." it's silly and nonconducive to forward progress to try and keep all your tricks all the time (at least after you have progressed past a certain level). juji is totally spot-on (at least for anyone who doesn't trick like 12 hours a day) about periodization of tricks that aren't part of the "main arsenal" you like to always be able to do.

Yeah exactly what I was trying to make a point of earlier. I'll quote myself too:

This is just another way of making a trick list in my opinion. Now it's just under sessh's trick classes with a bunch of bars representing percentage.

...
So yeah I totally agree.



Why "in your opinion" haha, that's fact, it's just a trendy pimped out trick list.
Yes of course but you know how people get their panties in a twist about comments like these around this place. I just find it funny to see so many people using this

GLORIFIED TRICK LIST

when they themselves have continually bashed lists in the past. I can't believe this level of hypocrisy.

[TartanPajamas]

Yes, it's a tricklist. The only reason you make a big deal about it is because it's Sessh. It is, however, a less irritating tricklist, because he doesn't name off a thousand different moves!

[Swartz]

Wrong. The only reason everyone is using it is because it's from sessh, haha.

As if his way is the one and only way of doing things.

I respect sessh's abilities. Let's make that clear. However, the way everybody is following him is ridiculous to me.

When I see people who claim to hate trick lists using this all of the sudden, it just augments it.

[TartanPajamas]

The way I see it is, if you can count your tricks, you can't trick.

Sessh's way of making a "tricklist" doesn't list all his tricks, just gives a percentage of a certain list. It saves space and looks cool.

I like it, I doubt I'll use it anytime soon (if ever).

[Reim]

The way I see it is, if you can count your tricks, you can't trick.

Sessh's way of making a "tricklist" doesn't list all his tricks, just gives a percentage of a certain list. It saves space and looks cool.

I like it, I doubt I'll use it anytime soon (if ever).

What level trickster are you?

[sesshoumaru]

You know what I don't like about "the sig" that I can forsee happening?

Big debates over whether "noobs" should take advice for a Gainer from a person who has no Class B tricks [in which a Gainer is listed] accomplished. Then we'd have to go into arguments explaining the already obvious...not being able to do it, doesn't always mean that you don't know how to do it...it just means you can't do it.

[FatTricks]

You know what I don't like about "the sig" that I can forsee happening?

Big debates over whether "noobs" should take advice for a Gainer from a person who has no Class B tricks [in which a Gainer is listed] accomplished. Then we'd have to go into arguments explaining the already obvious...not being able to do it, doesn't always mean that you don't know how to do it...it just means you can't do it.

Good Point Sessh.....I'll elaborate.

Not all boxing trainers were world champs. Hell, some of them are even out of shape. That does'nt mean they can't train you to be world champ. It's not neccesarily what you can and can't do. But more to the tune of What you know and don't know.

[Snejk]

I use it because it's a nice when people a lot of people use the same thing. I don't care if it was made by Sessh, Juji or Michelle Pfeifer.. Also it's a great way of showing everyone just about how much I suck.

Rocketbaz; How can you have 2% missing on your class A tricks? Either you can do a trick or you can't.. :p

[Swartz]

LISTEN

I was going into the whole sessh thing because he's apparently the one who made it. To deny the fact that he's the one behind it encourages people to use it would be stupid. He has status as a well known trickster in the community.

However, I don't care for the idea and like I've said multiple times already, it's a trick list, nothing more. People defend it because it's "different." So what? The concept behind it is still there, and that's why I labeled it a "glorified" trick list. Nobody can deny it, that's all it is.

I don't care if it it had been done by anybody else too. My opinion would remain the same.

For the longest time trick lists have been frowned upon. Why? Because it's just people listing what they claim they can do. Even if they can do such skills, it does not reflect how well they do them either. No detail to consistency, cleanliness and numerous other factors that people could argue based on personal preference.

That's why trick lists or sessh's more elaborate percentage bar sig fail. Those things aren't taken into account. We have to SEE it. If you want to show who you are as a trickster, you're going to show it VISUALLY, not display your "level" in the form of percentages to everyone. Obviously for many it makes this whole thing even more ridiculous because people already know what others can do, and if they can't, these percentage bars, honest or not, are of no value unless they are SEEN.

People are eating this up, people who claim to hate trick lists, and all I can do shake my head and laugh.

[Snejk]

You all read too much into it.. It's for fun..

[FatTricks]

LISTENBecause it's just people listing what they claim they can do.

I disagree wholeheartedly! Nah, I'm lying!
Puahahaha Muahahaah HooAhuahahahaah!:punched:

[alpha7158]

Wrong. The only reason everyone is using it is because it's from sessh, haha.

As if his way is the one and only way of doing things.

I respect sessh's abilities. Let's make that clear. However, the way everybody is following him is ridiculous to me.

When I see people who claim to hate trick lists using this all of the sudden, it just augments it.

It's different to a tricks list, it is more aesthetically pleasing and looks like a level up bar from an RPG. :good:

edit: it is good because it provides measurable objectives in tricking, it provides something extra to strive for in tricks sessions. This is regardless of if it is being displayed in a sig or not.

edit: and yes I did copy it off sess because i thought it looked cool. Is that a crime?

[Alexx]

swartz, here's the answer to all your problems

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5480/swartzcl1.jpg


That's why trick lists or sessh's more elaborate percentage bar sig fail.

judging by the amount of people who have it... this most recent trick list doesn't look like it's been failing does it...

[Dragonic MiKe]

It's different to a tricks list, it is more aesthetically pleasing and looks like a level up bar from an RPG. :good:

edit: it is good because it provides measurable objectives in tricking, it provides something extra to strive for in tricks sessions. This is regardless of if it is being displayed in a sig or not.

edit: and yes I did copy it off sess because i thought it looked cool. Is that a crime?

I agree. I've actually started thinking about tricks that I otherwise would have disregarded. :smile:

Edit: and if Snapdrive would send me my friggin confirmation email then I could share something mildly useful with everyone.

Re-Edit: Screw it. it's on yousendit. :P

Trick Class Percentages For All!!! (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=42F0608453ED5116)

[alpha7158]

I agree. I've actually started thinking about tricks that I otherwise would have disregarded. :smile:

Edit: and if Snapdrive would send me my friggin confirmation email then I could share something mildly useful with everyone.

you could use divshare.com

[Alexx]

mike that was cool, i was wondering when somebody would get round to doing that, although i was expecting someone to do like a programme that calculates it for you on all the tricks you tick and then writes the sig for you. haha, god i'm so lame...

[Dragonic MiKe]

Yay. A happy customer! :tongue:

*giggles*

[Alexx]

haha i was actually very dissapointed at how i rate percentage wise =( haha oh well, combos ftw ! i'll let my tricks do the talking when i release a samp at some point. haha i know my trick type would be the same as yours if i got around to doing one, hmm i'll think about it :P

[Swartz]

judging by the amount of people who have it... this most recent trick list doesn't look like it's been failing does it...

Alexx, you have NO idea what I meant by that and are taking it your own way. By failing I wasn't referring to how popular it is, but why it's really no different than a trick list, and it just "looks" different.

Oh and Andy the fact that it looks like a level for some character in an RPG just makes it that much more silly to me, not cool. It has the same childish aspect I saw in the original trick lists.

Obviously you guys can do what you want. I wasn't posting to make you guys change it, haha. That's not up to me.

However, I have the right to state my opinion just like everybody else. So deal with it.

[Dragonic MiKe]

haha i was actually very dissapointed at how i rate percentage wise =( haha oh well, combos ftw ! i'll let my tricks do the talking when i release a samp at some point. haha i know my trick type would be the same as yours if i got around to doing one, hmm i'll think about it :P

Yeah. All the moves I can do are pretty clean and consistent. And some I can do ambidextrously. I just lack diversity.

[Alexx]

Alexx, you have NO idea what I meant by that and are taking it your own way. By failing I wasn't referring to how popular it is, but why it's really no different than a trick list, and it just "looks" different.


so you meant failing, because it fails to portray an accurate display of the level of the tricker at that moment ?

[Skilzat85X]

I think he meant it fails because it's just stupid.

[RandyMintz]

matt r....your new avatar is not a real twist dl. the double leg should start when your back is facing the ground. just because you put your feet together at the end doesnt mean its a double leg. sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

[RandyMintz]

so dont split hairs in the details of tricks if the ones you put on display aren't what they claim to be either

[Vaughnya]

so dont split hairs in the details of tricks if the ones you put on display aren't what they claim to be either

well thank you good sir!

[Dragonic MiKe]

LOL!

[Rook]

ahaha, my sig is depressing.

lol

[Swartz]

so you meant failing, because it fails to portray an accurate display of the level of the tricker at that moment ?
No. Alexx, if you had read my first posts in this thread I answered all this already. I'm not going to repeat myself, just learn to read more.

I think he meant it fails because it's just stupid.
Yes.

[kinetic]

OH MY GOD. ITS NOT A GLORIFIED TRICK LIST. ITS THE OPPOSITE OF A TRICK LIST. ITS COOL.

[Swartz]

kinetic, why don't you actually explain yourself a little? I mean, how it is the "opposite" of a trick list exactly? You meant this being cool and the old ones not?

If that's all you have, you're just another one arguing about it's appearance rather than what actually matters, it's concept, and it's concept for people who still don't get it, is the exact same thing as a normal trick list.

[SickPanda]

so dont split hairs in the details of tricks if the ones you put on display aren't what they claim to be either

"are you actually inverted or not" isn't very hair-splitting to me, since it's hard to "split hairs" on an absolute yes/no question; for example, someone may be white and you're like "you're not black" and they're like "but i'm hella tan!" well that's nice, but they're still not black. a very inverted cork, that's nice, but still not gfull. but that's just me.

also the "double leg" part of matt r's avatar starts exactly where hans effing wikkeling looks like he starts his. and where did you come up with that precise requirement? a gainer with a fulltwist, taking elements from a non-cheat gainer and a back full, very clearly should be fully inverted. whereas a twist-dleg, just a twist ending with a doubleleg, has a lotta leeway stylistically on where you want to turn it into a dleg.

[TartanPajamas]

What level trickster are you?

Higher than you. What's your point?

[Final Prophecy]

I made one of these sigs. Check it out.

[sesshoumaru]

Why are y'all still arguing about a thing that takes up 2 inches on the screen? There are people starving and stuff, and y'all are bickering about a damn list that doesn't even concern you. Granted, we don't talk about super important, pulitzer prize type things...but we can do better than this.

By the way, saying you have a trick in a list, without having proof showing the quality of that trick...is the same thing as doing a not-so-great quality trick in an avatar, and saying it's the "Real McCoy"...you don't have to have it perfect to say that you can do it...it just means it's something you have to clean up.

[Final Prophecy]

Sesshoumaru, does a cartwheel count as a Class A trick? If not I should change this 1% to 0%.

[Less than Dan]

LOL!

Mike, you win this thread. "Grandmasterswipe...vinewhip."
Hahahahahahaha.

[TartanPajamas]

Read T101, he's using that list.

[Final Prophecy]

Read T101, he's using that list.

Well the fucking link has expired, check it out for yourself:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=32F3912647A7AEC0

[TartanPajamas]

Check fucking Bilang.com

[Final Prophecy]

Check fucking Bilang.com

No.

Is a cartwheel a class A trick or not?

[TartanPajamas]

No, it's B.

[Final Prophecy]

No, it's B.

Okay fixed my sig.

[Alexx]

i think that the sessh sig idea is bad simply because it doesn't allow for how good your execution is, it's impossible to list out every trick & variations, and it implies that you can always do any of those tricks that you've "marked off." it's silly and nonconducive to forward progress to try and keep all your tricks all the time (at least after you have progressed past a certain level). juji is totally spot-on (at least for anyone who doesn't trick like 12 hours a day) about periodization of tricks that aren't part of the "main arsenal" you like to always be able to do.

Yeah exactly what I was trying to make a point of earlier.


Sounds similar to what i said earlier.

so you meant failing, because it fails to portray an accurate display of the level of the tricker at that moment ?

[Rook]

I just think it's kind of snazzy to have a standard means of comparison.

but whatever.

[Matt R]

"are you actually inverted or not" isn't very hair-splitting to me, since it's hard to "split hairs" on an absolute yes/no question; for example, someone may be white and you're like "you're not black" and they're like "but i'm hella tan!" well that's nice, but they're still not black. a very inverted cork, that's nice, but still not gfull. but that's just me.

also the "double leg" part of matt r's avatar starts exactly where hans effing wikkeling looks like he starts his. and where did you come up with that precise requirement? a gainer with a fulltwist, taking elements from a non-cheat gainer and a back full, very clearly should be fully inverted. whereas a twist-dleg, just a twist ending with a doubleleg, has a lotta leeway stylistically on where you want to turn it into a dleg.

hahahaa <3

pwnd duders

[Jwizzman]

hmmm...I think the whole sessh sig thing is alright but I'd rather spend my time looking at people's avatars.
If you claim to be able to do a Class F move atleast have it as an avatar or any other move that's your favorite for that matter.

[Vaughnya]

i know im not perfectly vertical but ive been working on my gainer fulls to make them perfectly vertical and its very hard...but ill get

[Matt R]

lol changed your story haha

now it isnt vertical?

hha kayy

[TKD-Man]

Just way to compare trickers, this sig...

[niodman]

mine is very impresive

[Vaughnya]

lol changed your story haha

now it isnt vertical?

hha kayy

i knew the whole time it was not completely vertical but just enought to call it a gfull, in my opinion

[Less than Dan]

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/ca/SnorlaxChef.jpg

[kinetic]

kinetic, why don't you actually explain yourself a little? I mean, how it is the "opposite" of a trick list exactly? You meant this being cool and the old ones not?

If that's all you have, you're just another one arguing about it's appearance rather than what actually matters, it's concept, and it's concept for people who still don't get it, is the exact same thing as a normal trick list.

I was kidding. Sorry i thought it was obvious haha.