Fishy Fishy!

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So I'm looking for a good, pre-cooked, canned fish to eat. I'm against tuna because it can contain some level of mercury.

Fish is great for you since it's high in protein and omega 3 acids.

Suggestions/favorites?

[Chase]

I'm against tuna


Suggestions/favorites?

Tuna

[compleks]

Tuna

[tricker_d]

Tuna

[Sakanem]

All fish are contaminated with mercury :-/

[Phil D]

captain birdseye fish fingers:good:

[Rahf]

All fish are contaminated with mercury :-/

This is the truth, all fish have some degree of hazardous chemicals inside them so don't worry. Just don't eat tuna 3 times a day.

My suggestion: Tuna or fermented herring (sic).

[Phil D]

tinned salmon, sardines?

[anfeyd]

I eat a can of tuna a day. If I die of mercury poisoning i'll let you know.

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I did some more research, and here's some information to consider:

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/sea-mehg.html
http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/fishadvice/advice.html

They mention canned "light" tuna.

From the table: (ordered by PPM)

SPECIES MEAN MERCURY CONCENTRATION (PPM)
TUNA (CANNED, LIGHT) 0.118
TUNA (FRESH/FROZEN, SKIPJACK) 0.205
TUNA (FRESH/FROZEN, YELLOWFIN) 0.325
TUNA (CANNED, ALBACORE) 0.353
TUNA (FRESH/FROZEN, ALBACORE) 0.357
TUNA(FRESH/FROZEN, ALL) 0.383
TUNA (FRESH/FROZEN, Species Unknown) 0.414
TUNA (FRESH/FROZEN, BIGEYE) 0.639

Do not eat Shark, Swordfish, King Mackerel, or Tilefish because they contain high levels of mercury.

My recommendation? Don't eat canned albacore tuna. Anyone able to offer any insight into the ambiguous "light" tuna?

[TimmyC]

Granted that information, you need to consider that those figures are in parts per million, so if you were to eat say, a can of albacore tuna every day [we'll say a can is something around 5 oz, or 140 grams], you'd need to keep that diet without fail for more than 7000 days, or 19 years to have .853 grams of mercury in your body. And .853 is the worst possible reading for "canned albacore tuna". Do you think you'll be eating tuna for 19 years continuously in order to maintain your nutritional goals? You'll be in your mid-thirties, and you'll probably have moved on.

If that doesn't convince you, having .853 grams of methyl mercury [organic mercury compound] in your system over 20 years is not likely to effect any noticeable damage to your central nervous system or other parts of your body. If you're really that worried about something as trivial as canned tuna, then I'd say your priorities are a bit skewed. There are things much more detrimental to your health in the environment than the possibly menial amount of mercury you'll get from eating a ridiculous amount of tuna. Before you supposedly die from mercury poisoning, you are much more likely to get all the benefits of omega-3 fatty acids.

In sum, I'd say you should supplement tuna into your diet, but if you are so wary of mercury poisoning, then just limit yourself to 2 or so cans per week, if that. If you want your omega-3's, then buy yourself some fish oil pills.

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5oz can = 140g
140 g * (0.357 ppm/1,000,000) = 0.00004998 g of mercury in 1 can of albacore tuna

Is that even accurate? Can you get the grams in one can like I did there?

That seems like a tiny tiny amount, but mercury is highly toxic... This page ( http://www.gotmercury.org/ ) says that I'm over EPA safety levels by eating just 1 can of albacore tuna a week.

you'd need to keep that diet without fail for more than 7000 days, or 19 years to have .853 grams of mercury in your body. And .853 is the worst possible reading for "canned albacore tuna".

....What? 0.853 ppm was the worst fish that they found, NOT grams!! I'm sure your numbers aren't accurate either.

Anyone ever had canned salmon? No detectable amounts of mercury.

Heh, I'm not totally anti-tuna, I'm just trying to figure it all out.

Edit: Oh, and here's some chunk light (http://www.starkist.com/template.asp?section=products/chunklight.asp) tuna for ya

[Rahf]

I eat tuna, I used to eat alot of tuna but I slowed down on it and have it maybe once or twice every few weeks. I'm not sick of the taste yet but I couldn't eat a whole can all by itself nowadays.

[PaRaSiTe_X92]

How is cod?

[Gazapo]

I hate most fish, but I'm a supporter of tuna.

[Dragonic MiKe]

Haha I just made a comment about mercury then read the thread and realised that it already came up.

... I have nothing to add. :punched:

[Syn]

tuna is fine... if it wasn't, bodybuilders wouldn't eat the shit all the time

[Rahf]

I like cod and salmon. Fresh salmon prepared and then oven baked is mighty fine my friends. I'll post a pic of a nice fishy dinner in the future.

[compleks]

Please do.

[-TM-]

Is tuna really that good for you? according to nutritiondata.com its better for wightloss than for packing on muscle?

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c214s.html

and.. why is it bad with to much sodium?

im sorry if my questions are stupid, but i dont know too much about nutrition..

[Rahf]

Tuna is a good and cheap way to get protein. The reason tuna isn't that good for bulking is because while it is a good stomach filler, it doesn't contain that much energy. This is true to most fish, at least in comparison to chicken and dairy (dairy being the most energy dense).

I have spontaneous thoughts about osmosis and blocked blood vessels with the sodium thing but I'll leave that to someone with more knowledge.

[-TM-]

ive heard something about tuna beeing high in cholesterol, and that you can block your bloodvessels.. you just reminded me of that:) what can i use instead of tuna that has the same effect?

[Rahf]

ive heard something about tuna beeing high in cholesterol, and that you can block your bloodvessels.. you just reminded me of that:) what can i use instead of tuna that has the same effect?

Don't worry too much about it, right now I reckon you're being abit to "anal" on your diet. Anything that is meat will contain alot of protein. As long as you keep a steady, clean and fresh diet you are bound to get between 1-2g of protein per kg bodyweight and that is perfectly fine, if you eat moderately well that is.

I also reckon you shouldn't worry too much about tuna and cholesterol my friend, it's a fish and fish aren't renowned for being bad for you.

Remember that almost every food source has some degree of protein in it, even pasta (yes, it is actually true kids).

[-TM-]

Rahf, you spund like a guy with knowledge about health and nutrition.. is it possible that i need only like 3700 calories a day when ima 83kg and 178cm high 17 year old? i excercise about nine hours a week..

[Rahf]

Rahf, you spund like a guy with knowledge about health and nutrition.. is it possible that i need only like 3700 calories a day when ima 83kg and 178cm high 17 year old? i excercise about nine hours a week..

Well it depends on your goals. You're a growing guy and to stay healthy without any major shifts in weight (apart from growing) I reckon between 3000-3500 kcal is a healthy balance for you. And remember, I'm no expert, I'm a regular bugger who happens to have picked up a few things.

[-TM-]

which kind of fish can i use instead of tuna? im beginning to get sick of the taste.. Salmon? Fish and Chips?:P

[Dragonic MiKe]

Salmon is nice. :)

Cod is overpriced and doesn't actually taste that great in my opinion.

Mackerel might be a good replacement, it has a distinctively different taste and you can buy it tinned or in pre-cooked fillets/strips. :good: