Fear Help

[Sato]

I have serious problems with my fear with flips.
Backtuck's, wallflips etc.
I freeze when I starting this trick. Thinking of the injuries etc.

Do you guys have some advice. (except from a spotter.)

Tnx in advance

[Mrteddybearr]

A spotter

[Shelz]

just do it. Best way to get over fear is to face it =)

[jiayo-chris]

just do it. Best way to get over fear is to face it =)

QFT!

[JiayoJames]

A spotter.

[jiayo-chris]

A spotter.

[Skippy]

I can't backflip these days at all, but when I was in the process of learning them, I made sure I'd analyzed the technique down properly so I wasn't just hopelessly throwing for it, went into my back yard and put a few pillows down, and went for it.

First time was a throw for it to get over the fear, after that I done some honest attempts. I never landed it, but I know alot more about the technique now then I did back then, so I might attempt them again soon if I ever regain some interest in flips.

[Mrteddybearr]

Whats QFT?

[DraKe]

Skippy? Didn't you make that "Backflip of walls"-tutorial?
I got spotted on the backflip today, wasn't scary at all..
When I had one spotter (my dad), I was really afraid.
But with two friends I just went for it..

[Comatose]

Whats QFT?
quoted for truth.
and yeah, get a spotter :good:

[Gordi0075000]

well, i don't know where you live and all, but if you've got a gymnasium of sorts nearby i'd go there. they can teach you proper technique, so you won't be getting into the trick unprepared, they can spot you, and they can provide with mats and safety measurements to prevent injuries.
and i don't think you should be upset that you're scared.. your fear keeps you alive and well. get over it step by step, and don't go into something you're not prepared for. that's my advice to ya. g'd luck with those backflips!

[Mrteddybearr]

awww u ruined the fun in beeing mean to the kid :(

[Serial]

well, i don't know where you live and all, but if you've got a gymnasium of sorts nearby i'd go there. they can teach you proper technique, so you won't be getting into the trick unprepared, they can spot you, and they can provide with mats and safety measurements to prevent injuries.
and i don't think you should be upset that you're scared.. your fear keeps you alive and well. get over it step by step, and don't go into something you're not prepared for. that's my advice to ya. g'd luck with those backflips!

only problem with that is he'll won't learn to backtuck for a good while...they'll be teaching him to do rolls and all that (might be what he needs, maybe not). a gym would be nice if you can find one though. get a spotter and/or do it onto some mats. once you realize how hard it is to get seriously injured it isn't that bad.

[Charles B]

learn the moves your not scared to try first

[Mrteddybearr]

Actualy going to gymnastics , ull learn in first course hahaha, u just tell them what u wanna do n theyll help u with it xD

[Dragonic MiKe]

I didn't use a spotter, I used trampolines and mattresses cause I'm a faggot.

[Skippy]

Skippy? Didn't you make that "Backflip of walls"-tutorial?
I got spotted on the backflip today, wasn't scary at all..
When I had one spotter (my dad), I was really afraid.
But with two friends I just went for it..

Yes. My youtube front flip tutorial I'm more youtubey famous for though.

[sesshoumaru]

Regardless of athletic ability, or the having the necessary prerequisites for learning a new trick, if you allow fear to enter the equation...the trick won't happen.

Anytime you learn a trick that is outside of your tricking talent (ex. the practicioner is good at learning kicking techniques; but isn't good at twisting techniques, and want to learn a twisting technique), a certain level of trust (proportional to the amount of fear the practitioner has when attempting the desired trick) is needed to overcome the obstacle presented when attepmting something that is outside of his character.

Often times, simple logic can be used to combat the fear. Let's say that you want to learn how to Boxcutter, and you're not too sure when to kick out of the Hyper Cork...


Logical Breakdown (Q/A)

Q: What is a Boxcutter?
A: a Hyperhook from a Moon Kick set-up...

Q: What are the prerequsites for the Boxcutter?
A: Hyper Corkscrew

Q: Can you do a Hyper Cork? If so, what's the quality of it?
A: Yeah I can do it from time to time, and it's decent on average.

Q: Can you do the tricks that make up the Boxcutter?
A: I can Moon Kick (obviously), but I really can't Hyperhook too well; however I can ------.Hypertwist...

Q: Well since you can't Hyperhook, can you do the tricks that make up the Hyperhook?
A: I already stated I can Hypertwist, and I can Cheat 720 pretty good.

So: you have the physical ability to Boxcutter (A3), you know and understand what a Boxcutter is (A1,A2), you're not sure of the timing of the kick in the Boxcutter (A4)...but you are capable of kicking from that type of spin (A5)

In conclusion: even though you're not 100% sure of when to execute the kick within the Boxcutter, you do have the capability to do so. You might not be able to Hyperhook, but you can Hypertwist, Hyper Cork, and C720. Though the Boxcutter is a Hyperhook from a Moon Kick/Cork set-up, it is also a C720 out of a Corkscrew. You can C720 and you can Cork, so the only thing stopping you from doing a Boxcutter is your own uncertainty about the trick in general.

Once you understand this, you have to understand that your uncertainty doesn't make logical sense...cause you can do the prerequisites and you have an idea (though not a 100%) of when to kick. If you think about it, it doesn't make sense for you to be completely afraid of doing something you have a 15% uncertainty about. All it takes is some nerve & some commitment...


Commitment - an agreement or pledge to do something in the future, the state or instance of being obligated or emotionally impelled, a consignment to a mental cause (being it a charge or trust)

In other words, it's all mental. If you don't trust yourself (skills & talent), then you won't be able to attain the things that are normally tough for you to acquire. In the same way, if you aren't willing to lose something, you won't gain anything. Both of these factors determine your willingness to try more advanced tricks. Hopefully, the first factor will determine it more than the latter...

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For example, I am confident in a wide assortment of elements found within tricking (kicking, spinning, twisting, etc.). It isn't my aquired tricks which determines what I'm capable of...it's a mixture of my experience, acquired tricks, and confidence.

Just because you can C900 Double & C720 Twist; doesn't exactly mean you can C900 Double > C720 Twist. The more you become familiar with every "trick-type", the less limitations you'll have when doing combinations...this is because your attitude towards the tricks change (you begin to take the them less seriously, and you can manage them easier).

If you're hesitant to learn a trick, try to logically break that trick down. Think about the risks and the rewards. If the rewards outweigh the risks, and you are physically capable of doing the trick...then do the damn trick.

"You shouldn't be afraid of tricks that you're capable of doing...they should be afraid of you."

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[TKD_Andy]

*sessh's post*

no offense sessh, but 'breaking it down' doesnt really apply to the fear of learning back tucks. If anything, it makes it worse, especially for a n00b.

eg:

"ok right ill break it down"
"all ive got to do is jump up, trying to look forwards then bring my knees up to my face like a tuck jump, then somehow that'll rotate me over my head and then ill just untuck and land on my feet"
"ok right... so ive got to get my feet OVER my head.."

do you see what i mean? I know what you mean about breaking it down etc and it really does help, but its application to simple moves to new trickers is very limited.

[sesshoumaru]

Yeah you may be right since he's ultra-new at this. He has no "real" prerequisites to base his experience off of. He'll have to rely on commitment and just chucking the move to make any "real" progress.

[shengoikee]

the first steps are always the hardest for any variation

[Marcusmo]

I have serious problems with my fear with flips.
Backtuck's, wallflips etc.
I freeze when I starting this trick. Thinking of the injuries etc.

Do you guys have some advice. (except from a spotter.)

Tnx in advance
I had ur same problem, but then I got a spotter to help me. First, if ur afraid, it's good to learn correct form, so using a trampoline will help. If u dont have a tramp, do backflips into a pool while trying correct form. It's easier to do a correct backflip when u know it wont hurt. U must get over the fear to have a comfortable flip. O, by the way, I'm sooooo glad I took the time to learn a backflip. I thought I would never get it cause once u get over the fear, u have to face the difficulty of doing it. IT TAKES EFFORT!!! Use all ur power to thrust urself straight up once u get over the fear. Height is essential. Fear is the hardest part though. I say use everything u have to find a spotter. U MUST GET ONE! Remember, I've been in this exact position, askin others, and they kept saying spotter. FIND ONE SOMEHOW! How u do it I cant help u with, but I bet u can find a way. Trust me and do what I say. Message me with anything else is a problem comes up.:wink:

[Sato]

Started in my school gym with back tucks. Going better. First doing it with 2 spotters

[Marcusmo]

Started in my school gym with back tucks. Going better. First doing it with 2 spotters
Ur doin them now?! GOOD! Do them a lot and u will get better. Dont force urself though or u will get tired and something weird might happen. O, by the way, roundoff backflips are easier then standing backtucks and backhandsprings do more than roundoffs. It might take awhile, but learning them will make backflip practice easier for u. U dont have to try as hard to get the height. Learn what blocking is if u havent already. Get 1 spotter on a padded mat (or something soft that doesnt take away ur jump) and if u feel confident and trust ur spotter, u will do it. For wallflips, all I needed was someone to stand there even though he said he wouldnt really be able to help much. Helped with fear and the rest was easy. O.K. I'm gonna end this with one word. PRACTICE.

[Walttu]

Get a crashmat and do some weird over-shoulder stomach-land things and then build up your self-confidence and try a backflip. My dad bought me a crashmat, now I'm waiting till it stops raining.

[daviddalo]

teh Help :good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JPBB3yRBuw&mode=related&search=

[kamikaze!]

Get a crashmat and do some weird over-shoulder stomach-land things and then build up your self-confidence and try a backflip. My dad bought me a crashmat, now I'm waiting till it stops raining.

Yeah, those "over shoulder type backs" can really help to reduce your fear.
Crashmat is fantastic and should be used at the first few times for SHO.

[Sebasabi]

Tricks to help you get over your fear.
-A slap in the face.
-Make a bet with someone. Tell someone you'll gve him 20 bucks if you don't do the trick. (Thats kinda how I got over my backflip fear.. :tongue:)
-Multiple slaps in face. :smile:
-Spotters. (of course)

[Siphin]

for the fear of going backwards i just go offto the side 1st
like not directly straight back and i keep werking my self more and more until before i even realize it im going straight back
its honestly the best way i swear to u because it gives u confidence and helps u go backwards even put ur hands down and land on ur knees who cares side ways and backwards at the same time good luck