Backflip vs. Flash kick

[FKA]

Ok I'm writting this, because I want to know the differences in tehnique.

I know how to do both of them but I guess I could improve my flash kick.

I know, that with backflip, you are to jump straight up, use your arms, tuck and rotate (my backflip is fine, I land on the same spot, and my height is sufficient).

As for the Flash kick...should you also jump as much as with backflip, or you should use tehnique similar to backflips done from height, when you arch more and jump more backwards?
And about the kick, should I kick immidiately when I take-off, or wait any longer?

Thanks for replies, FKA.

[Dingo]

This might help you out

http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/t_flashkick:tongue:

[FKA]

This might help you out

http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/t_flashkick:tongue:

Didn't help me, actually...

[Birch]

juji has a narrated exampler of this

[Dingo]

Oopsie. bad link, try this one::tongue:
http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/t_flashkick

[Dingo]

Eureka!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdyyZ7xn3Y0

[TKD_Andy]

backflip and flashkick techniques are vehery different.

[sesshoumaru]

This thread is not supposed to teach those who cannot Flash Kick, how to Flash Kick. This thread is intended to help those who struggle with the mechanics & timing of the actual kick within the Flash Kick.

Having a nice "standing" Back Tuck is essential for this trick, but what's even more needed is the ability to do a "standing" Whip Back. This is due to the nature of the Flash Kick itself...

In a Flash Kick, you're attempting to hit the head of an opponent (preferably the chin) with a stretch kick (a type of front kick), while doing a backwards flip. The problem with the concept of the Flash Kick is that it's difficult to generate enough power to kick a "live" target and still retain enough momentum to make it back to your feet.

- If this is true, then why does the Whip Back technique improve your chances?

This is why...

When the Whip Back technique is used in conjunction with the Flash Kick, it ensures that the difference between your hips and your target (x) is at its greatest when flipping backwards. The greater the difference is, the further your kicking leg's foot can travel to the target (r). The further your foot has to travel, the more top speed it will have by the time it get's to the target. More speed, more power...

Also, the Whip Back technique gives greater leverage to the force of the Flash Kick. This is because the point of rotation/center of gravity (hips) is below the target that's being hit. This leverage makes it easier for the target to be driven back, which also makes it easier to land the Flash Kick after it has hit it's target.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/iganinkuten/opt.jpg

Basically...the greater the value of (x), the greater the value of (r)...which means more power. However, you do not want the value of (x) to be too high...if it is, then you run the risk of not being able to land the Flash Kick.

Remember: though you are whipping back, you still want to jump up as high as you can. This way, the the body is providing additional follow through by adding more body weight behind the kick. Perfect example: Ben Brown

Ben Brown's "standing" Flash Kick
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/iganinkuten/ben.gif

Here, you can see how he whips the Flash Kick back. Notice that when he pulls his arms back and jumps, his feet doesn't "flash" immediately. It's not until he can see the back wall, that he "flashes". At that moment, you can see that his hips are about "head-level", and that his kicking leg is chambered...leaving the actual foot below his target (almost level with where his head currently is). From there, he uses his abdominals to pull the kick up and through the Flash Kick. While he does this, his arms come backwards as his kicking leg comes over. Watching carefully you can see that his arms are suspended in their rotation as he kicks the "flash" over. This action adds balance to the Flash Kick, making it easier to manage the landing.


This post was originally intended for Less than Dan, I merely thought that it would be best for my reply to be seen publically than in a PM. If this helps anyone, thank Less than Dan...


:: Original Thread :: (http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20815&highlight=refining+flash)

[*<User Name]

I'm glad you save your posts Sessh... actually i hope you have saved them in word or whatever just in case the forum fucked up again...

[FKA]

Yeah, and thank you very much Sessh and Less than Dan too. That is all I wanted to know ;)

[Dingo]

:sad:What about me?

[FKA]

:sad:What about me?

Thanks to you too, of course :wink: The point is, I already saw Juji's tutorial (dOh?:tongue:), and Sessh wrote the exact things I wanted to know ;)

Cheers.

[Dingo]

Yay whoope! I feel better now. :tongue:

[FKA]

Yay whoope! I feel better now. :tongue:

Then we are all happy now :) Enjoy!