Standing Flashkick Help

[Matt K]

After getting some balls and learning a backflip, I decided to give flashes a try. I was talking to Neil (Kinetic) and he told me to go about getting it gradually. By doing normal backflips, not using hands for the tuck, whip-back, and finally flash. I can't seem to get a proper whip-back or flash kick down. I've almost landed a flash, but I didn't get my leg enough under me. I just need some advice on what to do for both whip-backs and flashes.

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http://www.divshare.com/download/993043-606

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tro8rglbc-c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tro8rglbc-c

[alpha7158]

you should look forwards to delay a flash kick. look athe the sky when doing up. try and lead with your hups as much as possable. at the peak of your jump you should arch as hard as you can, this is when the kick should come out.

[Dylon Dilanger]

first of all you flash isn't horrible put needs some work. when doing a wip back think bhs without hands and less like a back tuck no hands. you need to jump back more then you would for a back tuck. Now on to the flash, your kinda doing a back tuck then kicking out a leg. you need to kick sooner.

hope that helped abit

[Phil D]

thers no 'kick' in your flash kick, think about kicking someone under the chin as you backflip and just arch your back and whip the leg over.

[Dingo]

This thread is not supposed to teach those who cannot Flash Kick, how to Flash Kick. This thread is intended to help those who struggle with the mechanics & timing of the actual kick within the Flash Kick.

Having a nice "standing" Back Tuck is essential for this trick, but what's even more needed is the ability to do a "standing" Whip Back. This is due to the nature of the Flash Kick itself...

In a Flash Kick, you're attempting to hit the head of an opponent (preferably the chin) with a stretch kick (a type of front kick), while doing a backwards flip. The problem with the concept of the Flash Kick is that it's difficult to generate enough power to kick a "live" target and still retain enough momentum to make it back to your feet.

- If this is true, then why does the Whip Back technique improve your chances?

This is why...

When the Whip Back technique is used in conjunction with the Flash Kick, it ensures that the difference between your hips and your target (x) is at its greatest when flipping backwards. The greater the difference is, the further your kicking leg's foot can travel to the target (r). The further your foot has to travel, the more top speed it will have by the time it get's to the target. More speed, more power...

Also, the Whip Back technique gives greater leverage to the force of the Flash Kick. This is because the point of rotation/center of gravity (hips) is below the target that's being hit. This leverage makes it easier for the target to be driven back, which also makes it easier to land the Flash Kick after it has hit it's target.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/iganinkuten/opt.jpg

Basically...the greater the value of (x), the greater the value of (r)...which means more power. However, you do not want the value of (x) to be too high...if it is, then you run the risk of not being able to land the Flash Kick.

Remember: though you are whipping back, you still want to jump up as high as you can. This way, the the body is providing additional follow through by adding more body weight behind the kick. Perfect example: Ben Brown

Ben Brown's "standing" Flash Kick
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/iganinkuten/ben.gif

Here, you can see how he whips the Flash Kick back. Notice that when he pulls his arms back and jumps, his feet doesn't "flash" immediately. It's not until he can see the back wall, that he "flashes". At that moment, you can see that his hips are about "head-level", and that his kicking leg is chambered...leaving the actual foot below his target (almost level with where his head currently is). From there, he uses his abdominals to pull the kick up and through the Flash Kick. While he does this, his arms come backwards as his kicking leg comes over. Watching carefully you can see that his arms are suspended in their rotation as he kicks the "flash" over. This action adds balance to the Flash Kick, making it easier to manage the landing.


This post was originally intended for Less than Dan, I merely thought that it would be best for my reply to be seen publically than in a PM. If this helps anyone, thank Less than Dan...


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[Matt K]

you should look forwards to delay a flash kick. look athe the sky when doing up. try and lead with your hups as much as possable. at the peak of your jump you should arch as hard as you can, this is when the kick should come out.

I've tried this, and the kick really doesn't come out. I seem to be arching too late when I do this. I'm now really used to looking forward for a back-tuck, and I find it awkward to arch. I probably have to work on my whip-back a lot more.


All his not mine

Haha, thanks. I saw this when it was first posted. I used Ben Brown's example to try figure out how to do a flashkick. His are incredible!

Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm still working on them, but I'm sure I'll figure it out fairly soon.