Wrapping PLEASE REPLY

[cyber360]

I see people doing these 900s and double gainers and etc. but how do they get the momentum for example on a gainer full I try swinging my arms by I cant get that split second super fast spin

[alpha7158]

practice practice practice

[cyber360]

I HATE that tip even though its true

[cyber360]

Anyone got tips on spinning faster

[*<User Name]

practice practice practice

[simon]

without a video no help.

[Skilzat85X]

Just wrap in tight, and look over in the direction.

A gymnast friend of mine said good rotation is all in the hips. Can't argue with that!

Don't be confused by looking at peoples arm motions, I realized they're mostly meaningless. The majority of good rotation does in fact come from the head and hips (since your hips join your upper and lower body, obviously turning them is going to rotate the entire dang thing! If you only twist with your upper body, then your legs are going to be dragged along.)

Wrapping just helps in coordination and in keeping you tight instead of random arms flailing everywhere slowing down the rotation.

[Matt R]

Be me.

[WilliamT]

Oh god that is totally going in my sig :good:

but I'm going to actually be helpful so:
For Spins (vertical):

1.) You want to approach the take-off at a slanted trajectory by skipping into your jumping position.

This will off-set your momentum, which will make the effect of any rotational force more dramatic.

2.) When performing the skip, the first step out of it should be longer than the rest...this type of step is called a "penultimate stride".

The "penultimate stride" is used to lower your center of gravity while maintaining speed, which is essential to any type of jump whether it be high or long.

3.) Immediately after the "penultimate stride", there is a final step in the approach, which is smaller than the rest. During this step, the body is pivoted 180-degrees and the feet are brought within a shoulders-length from each other. Also, the arms are gathered just below the navel and to the opposite side you intend to spin (left side of the body if you spin right, right side of the body if you spin left).

The "gather" is an important part of spinning and vertical jumps...it requires great strength of the related muscle groups. This includes a lowering of the center of gravity, a momentary bracing of the legs at a proper angle against horizontal momentum (blocking), and an effective use of the arms and lead leg in achieving the take-off.

4.) Once properly "blocked" into the jump, violently rip your arms across your body in the direction you want to travel (up and to the left/right), and literally try to shove your feet though the ground. At the same time, move your head so that you're facing in the same direction of the spin.

It's all about the torque...just rip into that shit. You really have to commit to giving it your all, you can't be worrying about injuring yourself...it's all or nothing!

5.) While spinning, keep your head facing in the direction of the spin, and squeeze your thighs & ankles together. When you torque with your arms upon take-off, bring them in tight, and keep them close to your body throughout the spin.

From here on out it's all about staying rigid (all point's within the body remain the same distance from each other). You don't want any members of the body flailing about uselessly...this creates "drag" or wind resistance, and will slow your rotational forces down!

6.) Landing, this all depends on what trick you're doing...but whatever you do, you do not "stomp" the landing!!! You don't want to land with your legs "locked" at all!

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For Twists (horizontal):

In the torquing department, it's all the same...no matter what orientation you are in the air, the same technique can be used to initiate and maintain a spin. The only thing that changes is the set-up (save Doubleleg Twist variations).

You can ask anybody here for tips on twist types moves, but I recommend that you go out and experiment more with things. If you can't optimize your performance, then ask around a bit, or PM "twisters" like JKT or cyber360

By: WilliamT :tongue:

[Dragonic MiKe]

Here's and example of some good wrapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNfXGXzQQY

[Ambitrixterous]

Be me.

Oh Matt R, you are so great, can you help everyone become as good at tricking as you are???


Cyber360: WilliamT's tips are pretty good, just remember that there's a big differnece between bringing your limbs in during a spin and PULLING them in, keep abs flexed etc

[WilliamT]

Oh Matt R, you are so great, can you help everyone become as good at tricking as you are???


Cyber360: WilliamT's tips are pretty good, just remember that there's a big differnece between bringing your limbs in during a spin and PULLING them in, keep abs flexed etc

haha, dude I didn't write that sessh did :tongue:

although I did alter the end slightly

[Crazy Max]

but I'm going to actually be helpful so:
For Spins (vertical):

1.) You want to approach the take-off at a slanted trajectory by skipping into your jumping position.

This will off-set your momentum, which will make the effect of any rotational force more dramatic.

2.) When performing the skip, the first step out of it should be longer than the rest...this type of step is called a "penultimate stride".

The "penultimate stride" is used to lower your center of gravity while maintaining speed, which is essential to any type of jump whether it be high or long.

3.) Immediately after the "penultimate stride", there is a final step in the approach, which is smaller than the rest. During this step, the body is pivoted 180-degrees and the feet are brought within a shoulders-length from each other. Also, the arms are gathered just below the navel and to the opposite side you intend to spin (left side of the body if you spin right, right side of the body if you spin left).

The "gather" is an important part of spinning and vertical jumps...it requires great strength of the related muscle groups. This includes a lowering of the center of gravity, a momentary bracing of the legs at a proper angle against horizontal momentum (blocking), and an effective use of the arms and lead leg in achieving the take-off.

4.) Once properly "blocked" into the jump, violently rip your arms across your body in the direction you want to travel (up and to the left/right), and literally try to shove your feet though the ground. At the same time, move your head so that you're facing in the same direction of the spin.

It's all about the torque...just rip into that shit. You really have to commit to giving it your all, you can't be worrying about injuring yourself...it's all or nothing!

5.) While spinning, keep your head facing in the direction of the spin, and squeeze your thighs & ankles together. When you torque with your arms upon take-off, bring them in tight, and keep them close to your body throughout the spin.

From here on out it's all about staying rigid (all point's within the body remain the same distance from each other). You don't want any members of the body flailing about uselessly...this creates "drag" or wind resistance, and will slow your rotational forces down!

6.) Landing, this all depends on what trick you're doing...but whatever you do, you do not "stomp" the landing!!! You don't want to land with your legs "locked" at all!


What I'm about to ask probably sounds pretty basic, but when I go to use any runup into a pop I end up fucking up and losing all of my momentum (I also can't block worth shit). Right now I'm hitting 900 on and off on grass from standing with no run up or step over (I just need to really extend and jump up and torque the ever living shit out of it. Feels like my legs end up catching up, so I'm probably fucking those up too).

I have mad problems with skipping into it. I usually start with my right leg first, and then power into the skip with my left leg out and then quickly step with my right and try and get my left leg out to block and get into the setup. But at that point I lose all of the power and I get fuck all out of my pop. Anyone have a good example of a simple and effective pop setup?

Also, target spotting...The first 540 is a complete blur. I can't see a damn thing till I hit 720, and it's like my target comes up out of nowhere. How can you guys keep your eyes on the target with that much torque...

So many things I need to try: gathering with the arms below the navel, bracing the abs, squeezing the limbs together instead of just bringing them together, and pushing through the ground..