toning, not myth?

[Kon-El]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ivan2.htm
heres an article on bb.com about back training, at some pt he details a 'regimen 2' which is essentially what we all know and hate as toning. the funny part is that the article had good citation throughout except at that point, so I decided to email the author and ask him why a learned man spreads such a fallacy, here was his reply:

"Anecdotally, high rep schemes work.. I should have cited Stallknect et al's 2007 on spot-lipolysis resulting from high rep and tension time... Logic is based on increased blood flow to worked musculature, thus the likelihood of fat being selectively mobilized from that area.. The EPOC effect from such a high volume from high reps should also increase fat oxidation... Remember, I mention high reps only for a few sets... The bulk should be to maintain muscle strength and size... I appreciate your comment and reading my article... A study by Lambert et al. in Sports Medicine titled Macronutrient Considerations for the Sport of Bodybuilding also alludes to that fact that higher rep schemes don't tone muscle.. Well, new research from Stallknecht is disproving that notion...

Ivan"

so wat say u oh knowledgeable training and conditioning dwellers?

[Steve]

The best method for toning is to put the lime in the coconut and drink them both up.

[chicanerous]

The effect is negligible.

[compleks]

It depends how you use the word tone. What he should be saying is 'definition'.

Nothing special there.
Doing high reps is basically a cardio exercise, which may oxidize fat (blah blah. EPOC etc...) and therefore reduce bodyfat, increasing muscle definition - Not muscle tone.
You know what would also do this? A calorie deficit, which seems to have been neglected a mention.

[Rahf]

Spot lipolysis can be achieved but the effect is mostly measurable and hardly mentionable. The fact that he is using the word tone makes me sad.

[Pesante64]

The best method for toning is to put the lime in the coconut and drink them both up.

Then call the doctor and wake him up.

[Kon-El]

alright fair enough.
compleks: i have to admit he uses the word ripped, not toned in his article, however he still implies the spot-reduction thing more so than high reps as cardio, serisouly can 30 reps get anyone breathing heavy?... then again, dont answer that.

thanks all

[Steve]

She said, "Doctahhh, ain't there nothin I can take,"

[chicanerous]

alright fair enough.
compleks: i have to admit he uses the word ripped, not toned in his article, however he still implies the spot-reduction thing more so than high reps as cardio, serisouly can 30 reps get anyone breathing heavy?... then again, dont answer that.

thanks all
Haha. Weight-lifting is a great way to do cardio. Try thrusters, snatches, cleans, squats, deadlifts, or any single leg variation of the exercise for high reps and you'll be breathing like a maniac. Or combine exercises to make exercise complexes to make it really brutal. Three factors that determine how hard the exercise is going to be is the amount of muscle involved, the distance the weight moves, and what the weight actually is.

[Pale Nimbus]

Haha. Weight-lifting is a great way to do cardio. Try thrusters, snatches, cleans, squats, deadlifts, or any single leg variation of the exercise for high reps and you'll be breathing like a maniac. Or combine exercises to make exercise complexes to make it really brutal. Three factors that determine how hard the exercise is going to be is the amount of muscle involved, the distance the weight moves, and what the weight actually is.

Tabata thrusters = cardio hell

[compleks]

Tabata thrusters = cardio hell

Tabata Thrusters = Actual Hell.

[Pesante64]

She said "Doctah, to relieve this bellyache?"