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shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 10:54 PM
just had a really short session. still having some trouble with a few moves (btwist variations, cheat1080 and 1080 mainly....)

any tips for any of the moves would be much appreciated! i hate my btwists haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jD2-b3OhfQ

edit: oh and for tkd_andy i tried fixing my crapknife :wink: haha... still sucks

pete_man_man
Jul-26-07, 11:02 PM
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! your bkick is so fecking huge, it looks like your btwist should be ridiculous... delaying is your only problem with that move, seriously. it's the only thing stopping it from being the best btwist i have ever seen.

that first hyper 7 was just..... WHAT!?!?!??

how come your tricks are better on wet grass than on plyo?!?!? tell me your secret daffyd!!!!

shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 11:04 PM
hahahaha! iv always sucked at btwists.... sometimes i just cant delay em at all. i'll try though.

and there is so much more room on grass. =)

pete_man_man
Jul-26-07, 11:11 PM
hahahaha! iv always sucked at btwists.... sometimes i just cant delay em at all. i'll try though.

and there is so much more room on grass. =)

WET grass.:dead:

anyways, you are so close to that 1080, and the cheat 10... well that can only get better.

edit: i think i finally got "pumping" in cheat 7's down.

keep rocking downy!!!

simon
Jul-26-07, 11:12 PM
damn your 720s are goooooooooood.

y2kenb
Jul-26-07, 11:19 PM
GRRRR ARGGGHHH ERGGHHH

love the noises ur makin.. makes me think ur kicks are EXTRA powerful lol

wicked kicks man... i dont think u need tips, just keep drillin

Alexx
Jul-26-07, 11:24 PM
dude seriously. teach me the secret to 720's :agony:

shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 11:28 PM
hahaha the secret is: be crappy at most other stuff and just do 720s all the time. =)

maaaan i wanna be able to btwist like the rest of you. my leg wont fly up in the air like im telling it to haha

thanks guys =)

k-slash
Jul-26-07, 11:31 PM
You are seriously my hero man. Download PLEASE !!!
Your problem with b-twists isn`t stalling, it`s your upper body position on take-off. You need to pull it right up behind you as much as possible in b-twists, which makes them whip like mad. Right now your taking-off, facing too forwards. Dip, then pull your body right behind you, and feel the whip !!!!!!!

Edit: Actually, see on your b-kick. Notice how much further round your upper body is than your b-twists. Thats why it whips :smile:

Matt R
Jul-26-07, 11:32 PM
From what i can see, your illusion twistt and btwist double leg side is the best looking btwist side. More horizontal and looked higher.

Is this accurate? haha.

shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 11:35 PM
You are seriously my hero man. Download PLEASE !!!
Your problem with b-twists isn`t stalling, it`s your upper body position on take-off. You need to pull it right up behind you as much as possible in b-twists, which makes them whip like mad. Right now your taking-off, facing too forwards. Dip, then pull your body right behind you, and feel the whip !!!!!!!

Edit: Actually, see on your b-kick. Notice how much further round your upper body is than your b-twists. Thats why it whips :smile:
thanks man!! i hope this works, sounds good! =D
From what i can see, your illusion twistt and btwist double leg side is the best looking btwist side. More horizontal and looked higher.

Is this accurate? haha.

yes im truly crap! that was the way i first learnt to btwist haha.... the way i shattered my hand into pieces and broke my ankle a month later. funnn. =)

Zorilla
Jul-26-07, 11:37 PM
oooh i really like the pop9 after the loosion twist! i'm gonna give that a shot!

neways, i can give you a tip or two bout that "crap"knife hahaha
some say that i have a tad amount of experience with that kick... or maybe its just me hahahah

neways, theres too much of an emphasis on making the first kick pronounced. lighten up on the first kick, focus on turning your hips and getting the 2nd kick the crisp, clean, sexiness it needs! once you're able to consistently get the 2nd kick on spot, THEN try experimenting on how much power to add to the first kick to make it look nice

just start with a nice easy tap, or a bent knee-like pause to get the delay of throwing an actual first "kick" in. twist the hips hard, wrench that ish over and get the 2nd kick chambered, locked and ready... then BOOM baby

neways, when i get back to the states, find me on msn messenger (if youre still having trouble with the move) or just send me clips of your jacknives and ill help you out

much love homie

shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 11:42 PM
thanks victor =D

love your jacks <3

im actually used to really sacrificing that first kick and focusing on the hook (third move in my spring sampler from earlier this year is a jacknife kinda like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep1iXr6u4QA)

how you get both kicks to utterly destroy your target is beyond me haha. im inclined to think the first kick is my biggest problem.

Matt R
Jul-26-07, 11:45 PM
thanks man!! i hope this works, sounds good! =D


yes im truly crap! that was the way i first learnt to btwist haha.... the way i shattered my hand into pieces and broke my ankle a month later. funnn. =)



Okkkk if thats the good side, have you tried hypers/hooks on that side too?

+ Someone link me to a Zorilla jacknife, i have never seen itt.

shengoikee
Jul-26-07, 11:49 PM
Okkkk if thats the good side, have you tried hypers/hooks on that side too?

+ Someone link me to a Zorilla jacknife, i have never seen itt.

my btwist variations are kinda weird haha....

on the left: bkick, btwist, round, hyper, really crap and inconsistent hyperhook, iv tried doubles a coupla times but knee pain isnt fun.
on the right: illusiontwist, btwist dleg, shuriken twist, illusion feilong thing, hypertwist.

i think that's it.... i should probly work on each variation both sides. theyr equally bad but in different ways. left side is the good combo side.

victor has probly the best jacknife iv seen in person. check out the some of the TXT gathering sampsss or just their team samps. :good:

joepaxton
Jul-27-07, 12:11 AM
Oooo sick stuff there nice one, kicks are looking horny.

simon
Jul-27-07, 12:16 AM
no doubt it'll be in his bilang sampler.


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the best one i've seen was in jim and matt's excellent adventure part 1.

Zorilla
Jul-27-07, 12:25 AM
oh dear fellas...

im not loving my old samp too much... hahaha actually... i kinda hate it lol

ive gotta get a newer clip(s) of me sometime soon!

i also realize i dont think i have any clips of me doing jacknives that i think are my personal best

in a couple of weeks, i should be having a little sampler coming out soon made by cionn (leader of the austrian tricking group CAM)

in there should be some decent looking kicks

also, when seb releases his footage of txt 07, hopefully there should be a move or two in there (and one with jaime!!!)

oh yeah also dave, about that jack in your spring 07 samp (love the song btw) the way how you do it in there, thats what i'm talking about doing it with the bent knee way, it gives an actual appearance of the kick (and is most often done subconsciously when focusing on the 2nd kick) with its "pause", and is also easier to do.

its a slight emphasis on the first kick- practice it the way how you do it in your spring samp, then slowly progress with more and more oomph :)

much love guys

::edit:: actually, after watching my samp again... all the jacknives i do there are crappy... except the swipeknife where theres 22 secs left... that ones not bad

shengoikee
Jul-27-07, 12:30 AM
ok mang i'll keep drilling em like that =D

thanks for the advice

WilliamT
Jul-27-07, 12:56 AM
aCh my 7s have been shit lately, but I actually learned to jacknife like last week haha.

and I dont understand how you don't fall over on c10s, I always crash miserably.

I have no advice to offer, but seeing your vids makes me happy because we pretty much do the same tricks haha.

shengoikee
Jul-27-07, 12:59 AM
that's because we are teh koolest! *high five* =D

all my cheat10s tend to send me onto my face 180 degrees short haha.... i swear it's the hardest move so i wouldnt worry about not being able to do it haha

Shaolin.dk
Jul-27-07, 01:05 AM
Very nice Dave, I wish I was as good as you to pop moves, I always rotate off axis!

Sick pop 9 and the c1080 is close man, you may cheat it a bit more! I like how you fully extend the first kick in the jacknife, and manage to kick the second leg out a little bit!:smile:

brandonn
Jul-27-07, 01:11 AM
wow!!

that is all

WilliamT
Jul-27-07, 01:20 AM
currently uploading my best c10 attempt so far. be up shortly.

edit: sorry for ruining your thread, but here ya go:
c10 failure (http://www.divshare.com/download/1390005-311)

shengoikee
Jul-27-07, 02:03 AM
not my beautiful thread! haha

dude that was so similar to my bails. i feel your pain! :agony:

the ones i actually *land* (with a terrible kick) i think of a cheat900 where you think of a stepover hook on the end. weird but it kinda works.

WilliamT
Jul-27-07, 02:13 AM
I can never manage to stay on my feet, and when I focus on being upright i kick too early. fuck everybody who can do this trick propery. cuts self :agony: