One handed cartwheel help

[Joshua]

Ok, I actually feel like a fucking tool and probably am one for asking for help with this. I cant do a one handed cartwheel. Whenever I try to do it I land on my ass. Like I dont get enough momentum i think. O, the only reason I am trying to learn this is because a fellow trickster told me that it would be better if I were to learn it first. Thanks.

[Matt R]

I suggest you leave the forum.

And then visit a doctor, as it is clear your limbs do not work.

[Bryanimay]

I would suggest you drill some basic kicks and shizz first .

[thereid]

I suggest you >insert dumb joke here<

But really, make sure your back leg goes up fast and drill your regular cartwheels, if your really having trouble there is something physically wrong with your body.

[|thomas|]

make sure your kicking your leg straight up and over and throw that other arm up and around as if you were doing an ariel.

[Dragonic MiKe]

If you can't do a fucking one handed cartwheel then fucking do some more fucking normal fucking cartwheels!

fucking

[Andy Longcat]

do you has a vid?

[johnnyg42]

do lots of fast cartwheels. kick that first leg straight over your head as hard as you can. one handed cartwheels are allllll first leg. pretty much

[Aahem]

I suggest you leave the forum.

And then visit a doctor, as it is clear your limbs do not work.

Even though you were relatively non-hostile in this particular post... Were you serious about what you said? If you were, then I just have to ask you, and I don't really even want to hear the answer...

How can you be such an arrogant asshole? The dude is 15, just starting out and asking for advice, and you're telling him to leave? What the fuck? Shit like that might put him off. You seriously are an immature bitch. "BOOHOO i dunt care i didnt readz cuz im a rebelz" is what I expect you to answer.

That's only if you were, as I think is the case. And even if you weren't, he might not find that very funny, nor do the nicer people in TT, I bet.


To the original poster:
Yeah, you have to learn them. Posting a video of your attempts would help us to locate the problem and give some constructive advice! If you can't film one, then try to describe what you're doing, what it feels like and at what point are you falling.

And by 'us' I mean the people who are actually willing to help instead of just flaming you like the immature asses they are. Don't agitate them by replying to their posts.


Props to Andy le Mexican :good:

EDIT: I'm having a bad day, hence the aggression.


- Ade

[short gorilla]

Make sure you lead into it with your shoulders squared. If they aren't, and you go sideways, you are failing.

[Joshua]

Ok, I'll get a vid up later on today. Thanks

[Matt R]

Even though you were relatively non-hostile in this particular post... Were you serious about what you said? If you were, then I just have to ask you, and I don't really even want to hear the answer...

How can you be such an arrogant asshole? The dude is 15, just starting out and asking for advice, and you're telling him to leave? What the fuck? Shit like that might put him off. You seriously are an immature bitch. "BOOHOO i dunt care i didnt readz cuz im a rebelz" is what I expect you to answer.

That's only if you were, as I think is the case. And even if you weren't, he might not find that very funny, nor do the nicer people in TT, I bet.

- Ade

Oh pleese, come on. Hes asking for help on a one handed cartwheel for fucks sake.

It does not require any brain power to understand that to do a one handed cartwheel you need to at least have a mediocre cartwheel, the a one handed one is an instant transition

The fact that he is actually asking for help on this instead of figuring it out himself shows, to me anyway, that he is the type of person who is going to be lead by hand all the way through tricks, and by tricks i mean Bkick, Tornado kick and 360, as he probably wont try any real tricks soon.

And to be honest im not very fond of those types of people.

+++ Your 19, lighten up for fucks sake.

[Fin]

The reason we have a forum is so that people can ask for help on ANYTHING.

I mean it wouldn't be a helpfull forum if people who have just started out were ignored; and we only helped people who were attempting triple fulls and double corks.

People start tricking knowing absouloutly fuck-all, we just have to accept that, move on, and help them to have more understanding of what their doing.

If you were self-suffiecent training wise in your early years then thats fantastic. But you can't expect everyone to be as fast a learner as you.

[k-slash]

Hey, I need help on my forwards roll. I can`t quite seem to go straight over, it kinda turns in2 a sort of squint tucked sideways thing ? Do you have any tips on conditioning or stretches I might need to do for this, ade ? Thanks.

[Joshua]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yk8dM5oHt9U theres the vid. the second attempt is my attempt at the one handed one. Do i need more momentum or wa?

[Skilzat85X]

Learn proper cartwheel technique.
http://www.justtheskills.com/index.php?act=show_guide&v_id=6

Do not do it any other way.

[k-slash]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yk8dM5oHt9U theres the vid. the second attempt is my attempt at the one handed one. Do i need more momentum or wa?

What the fuck, are your arms that weak that you can`t support your own waight for a split second ?

With cartwheels, you need to reach out further, try and split your legs as much as possible on the way over, push with yourleading leg and you kick your back leg up. Don`t collapse in feebleness. Don`t try 1 handed, untill you can regular cartwheel properly.

And I reccomend holding handstands against a wall, and working up2 handstand pushups against the wall aswell. It`ll help with powerufll roundoffs and such later on.

Search youtube for "cartwheel tutorial" or soemthing, and see if anything comes up. If you really need that lol.

[Skilzat85X]

Holding handstands isn't going to help with crap when it comes to cartwheels. You don't need to support the weight of your body. Your body weight is moving and thus it isn't going to all be pressing onto your arms unless you stop moving or move really slow.

The only thing you need is proper technique, not strength. When it comes to cartwheels, anyways.

[k-slash]

Holding handstands isn't going to help with crap when it comes to cartwheels. You don't need to support the weight of your body. Your body weight is moving and thus it isn't going to all be pressing onto your arms unless you stop moving or move really slow.

The only thing you need is proper technique, not strength. When it comes to cartwheels, anyways.

I said it will help for roundoffs and such. And it might help him right now anyway, he seems to have no balance at all.

I gave him other advice anyway, I just said it might help :good:

[Skilzat85X]

Yea I agree with your other advice.
Buuut, it won't help for roundoffs either cause for them you should be moving even faster than a cartwheel haha.
Neither of them require any significant amount of balance.

However, practicing handstands is good just for overall conditioning and athleticism anyways. :good: But it won't have an affect on your cartwheels/roundoffs/handsprings to any significant extent. Unless of course, you are just so weak that you can't even support those, in which case you probably couldn't carry around groceries either.

[k-slash]

Yea I agree with your other advice.
Buuut, it won't help for roundoffs either cause for them you should be moving even faster than a cartwheel haha.
Neither of them require any significant amount of balance.

However, practicing handstands is good just for overall conditioning and athleticism anyways. :good: But it won't have an affect on your cartwheels/roundoffs/handsprings to any significant extent. Unless of course, you are just so weak that you can't even support those, in which case you probably couldn't carry around groceries either.

I only said handstands so I could say to do handstand pushups. Which will improve your roundoffs/backhandsprings lol.

[saunders]

this is one of the few times i agree with aahem, people should be able to ask about beginner moves too without getting flamed, not just about corks and fulls and whatnot. i remember about 2,5 years ago there were shitloads of kipups help threads, and no one bitched about those. in fact it surprises me that i see so much helpthreads about 'advanced' moves, those threadstarters should be the ones to figure shit out themselves. newbies need to be guided into tricking, and asking for help is not a bad thing. :good:

anyway, Joshua: your cartwheel is going pretty slow, while if you are planning to learn one-handed, and in the future aerials perhaps, they should be hella fast. as skilzat said, cartwheels don't rely on strength or w/e (those who say 'your arms are too weak' should be punished). cartwheels rely on speed. what you need to do in order to achieve maximum speed is to drive that swinging leg up real hard and fast, and push off that take-off leg. make it a real whippy motion, almost as fast as if you don't even need to put your hands down.
then when your cartwheels are nice and fast, move on to one-handed, and you'll see that those need little tweaking to learn.

peace

[Skilzat85X]

No they wont haha.

Dude, you're not supposed to lower and push on any of those. If you lower your head that close to the ground it's just stupid and will kill your power/momentum/speed/block. It's just...common sense.

If you watch professional gymnasts, who do handstands and various handstand pushup variations, you'll see they don't push down during a roundoff or a back handspring, they remain at full momentum which is the BEST unarguable way to do them.

Handstand pushups are completely irrelevant to any of these techniques.

Seriously.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXOuSTYIZW8
Try doing that but instead bending your arms as far as you bend them during a handstand pushup. It won't happen.

[k-slash]

No they wont haha.

Dude, you're not supposed to lower and push on any of those. If you lower your head that close to the ground it's just stupid and will kill your power/momentum/speed/block. It's just...common sense.

If you watch professional gymnasts, who do handstands and various handstand pushup variations, you'll see they don't push down during a roundoff or a back handspring, they remain at full momentum which is the BEST unarguable way to do them.

Handstand pushups are completely irrelevant to any of these techniques.

Seriously.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXOuSTYIZW8
Try doing that but instead bending your arms as far as you bend them during a handstand pushup. It won't happen.

I know, but the majority of people do bend their arms on roundoffs. Tho I have no idea why I said backhandsprings, cause ben`t arms = :agony:. I take that back, I`d never bend my arms on backhandsprings haha. But I do on roundoffs, tho I know it` s not proper tech :smile:

Edit: Actually, for rondsoff>backhandsprings, locked arms. Roundoff>back whatever, bent arms. For me anyway (doesn`t go in2 detail why).

[Skilzat85X]

Hahaha ok. I suppose until you find whatever works for you better it's ok.

But....back to the topic....haha
I don't think handstands would help, at all. In regards to this, at least. They would help with other things, like not being weak etc.

[Joshua]

Learn proper cartwheel technique.
http://www.justtheskills.com/index.php?act=show_guide&v_id=6

Do not do it any other way.
Thanks. I'll get that now in a few mins and I'll try to nail the one handed one by the end of the day.:smile:

[k-slash]

Hahaha ok. I suppose until you find whatever works for you better it's ok.

But....back to the topic....haha
I don't think handstands would help, at all. In regards to this, at least. They would help with other things, like not being weak etc.

lol thats what I was saying to him, it looks like he can`t support his weight in a cartwheel for some reason lol.

[saunders]

btw, if you still find yourself leaning on your arms too much, remember to locks those arms! bent arms cost more energy (since you use both your triceps and biceps, while in locked you only use your triceps), and besides bent arms look ugly

[redbarron]

try doing a regular cartwheel, and mid-cartwheel, lift one of your hands off the ground, since youve already got your one hand planted, your weight wont be transfered to your one hand instantly....plus the momentum should keep some weight off your hand, and once you get the hang of the one hand, switch off to your other hand, you'll get it in no time!! ^_^

[Dragonic MiKe]

Or just cartwheel faster so you don't have any weight on your hands. :/

[searchsoul]

when i do one handed cartwheels, i land so early i din feel like i could read Deathly Hallows like i could when i do a normal cartwheel

so in conclusion, i think my one-handed cartwheels look awful ugly or smth, but i've nvr captured myself doing it..

anyway~~

TRY putting the hand which usually goes over the top at your back, thats how i do them and thats probably why they're ugly from my thoughts and picturing of me doing it xD

[Augenatic]

Your other hand should sling over the top and turn your torso around..