mass system

[wonderboy]

have any of you ever used it? think it works?

[karatekid]

Hell yeah, I've just gained critical mass on my cock.

[Chuck The Truck]

Good products. NX Labs is a very reliable company, I trust them, but do not based your mass gain on supplements only. You'll be disapointed if you think you can gain 20 pounds of lean mass with this product. Supplements should only represent 10-15% of your dedication. Food, rest and training are, in my opinion, far more important.

[Kitosho]

NX Labs is complete shit and they make overpriced shit products

[Lobo]

I've never heard of NX Labs, but I still believe Kitosho is almost certainly correct.

[Grenkutzu]

Good products. NX Labs is a very reliable company, I trust them, but do not based your mass gain on supplements only. You'll be disapointed if you think you can gain 20 pounds of lean mass with this product. Supplements should only represent 10-15% of your dedication. Food, rest and training are, in my opinion, far more important.

NX Labs is complete shit and they make overpriced shit products

Hahaha

[Rahf]

If you have the money to spare and can't do without supplements then by all means.. I'd say it's unnecessary and a slight waste of money since there are cheaper products.

[Steve]

The fact that NX labs hires amateur body builders out of Quebec should be some indication as to the quality of their products (also that they release pseudoscientific nonsense like plasmavol, ha ha)

[Chuck The Truck]

NX Labs is complete shit and they make overpriced shit products

Can you tell us your experience with Nx Labs products? Just to know why you make such a negative comment about this company. Maybe you can tell us what supplements you use and which company?

Personnaly I've tried all their line, and I would say they make really potent products, that work really well. T3 is an exellent natural testosterone booster. Plasmavol, is probably the best one to date. The only negative thing I would have to say about this company is that their labeling on their isolate protein (Iso XP) is not quite accurate. We've tested it and they say it has 0 carbs in it, but the batch we tested gave us 10 g of carbs. Maybe it is just a mistake, but all I can say is that I went in contest using some of their isolate and it didn't slowed me to get shredded. I agree they are expensive products, but when you compare them to any other company it is in the same price range.

The fact that NX labs hires amateur body builders out of Quebec should be some indication as to the quality of their products (also that they release pseudoscientific nonsense like plasmavol, ha ha)

Steve, ever heard of glycerine? It's been known to bodybuilders for at least two decades. It has awsome vasodilation properties. Mix that with arginine and you got yourself a powerful blend. Actually it's the main ingredient in Plasmavol. How many kids know this...? Not a lot that I can say in my area. Personnaly I think NxLabs made a really good decision to bring this to the mainstream. No company was doing that kind of product. Maybe it is not very important for tricksters, but for bodybuilders, it his very useful. Plasmavol is expensive no doubt about it especially when you can get some glycerine in a pharmacy for 11$ a bottle, but you don,t get the creatine that's in it and the properaty blend with it that increases oxygen and blood flow into muscles. Personnaly I can say that plamavol gives me a better pump with arginine that glycerine and arginine alone. Best pumps I ever had was a mix of animal Pump and Plamsavol, but still I got to agree, it is a expensive mix.

[Chuck The Truck]

Also I just wanted to add that the fact that NxLabs supports amateur bodybuilders like Antoine is a great thing. I don't know a lot of big company who does that. NxLabs is a canadian company and I think it's only a natural thing that they support athletes from their country.

[James Branleur]

Fags...

[Chuck The Truck]

Fags...

I do now understand you nickname.

[Steve]

No Chuck, I have never heard of glycerine before in my life. Thank you for your advice.

[Chuck The Truck]

My pleasure man. Try the mix: glycerine (like I said 11$ in any pharmacy, you don't need any prescription) with your favorite pre-workout drink (make sure it has some arginine in it). You'll see, it's a lot of fun in the gym when the size of your arms doubles.

[Kitosho]

NX Labs sucks because their advertising is deplorable and their prices are atrocious. No I have never tried any NX labs stuff, I have to be careful about the way I spend my money so I buy things that have been empirically and experimentally shown to work, such as food.

[Kitosho]

but hey i guess if my credo was GET BIG OR DIE TRYING then i would spend my money on dumb shit like this too

[Chuck The Truck]

NX Labs sucks because their advertising is deplorable and their prices are atrocious. No I have never tried any NX labs stuff, I have to be careful about the way I spend my money so I buy things that have been empirically and experimentally shown to work, such as food.

A: Their advertising is deplorable. Your first point here is about their advertisment and seems to me very week. It's PUBLICITY, marketing, meaning is to sell the products. Every company does that. Even food companies. Maybe you should critique every supplement companies out there. I'm pretty sure Muscletech is a lot better, or Universal Animal too. Wow!

B: Their prices are atrocious. Yeah it is expensive, but in the same range of price than any other major labels. It is called following the market.

C: No I have never tried any NX labs stuff How can you says so then? Seriously, how can someone critique someting he never experienced or tried?

D: I buy things that have been empirically and experimentally shown to work They have been showed to work in clinical testing I can assure you. You can always ask the company for their data and they have the obligation to give their results to you. Maybe you are satisfied and you have good result with food only. Unfortunatly it is not the case for everyone and some people wants to get that little extra that will help them to achieve their goals . God bless you, you have the best genetic on earth, you get all the sleep, the food you need and you're training session are getting better everytime you go at the gym. Awsome!


but hey i guess if my credo was GET BIG OR DIE TRYING then i would spend my money on dumb shit like this too


Man I don't want to create any drama here, but if you can't deal with a simple joke here, you have a serious issue with yourself.

[Takpapp]

halleluja

[Kitosho]

A: Their advertising is deplorable. Your first point here is about their advertisment and seems to me very week. It's PUBLICITY, marketing, meaning is to sell the products. Every company does that. Even food companies. Maybe you should critique every supplement companies out there. I'm pretty sure Muscletech is a lot better, or Universal Animal too. Wow!

Muscletech and Universal are shit too. And I HAVE used their products. They suck. But neither of them are nearly as lame as NX (Animal comes pretty close though). Also, the thread is ABOUT NX PRODUCTS. If it was about Labrada products I would be talking about what a gigantic faggot Lee Labrada is. Nearly every "major label" produces 99% shit or stuff that works but at horrendous prices designed to trick skinny teenagers out of their allowance money. I work in a vitamin shoppe and i am surrounded by this crap nonstop. Trust me, I bear the same issues with just about every supp company in the spotlight right now.

Also, I rarely, if ever, see advertising for eggs, organic meat, fruit, and whole grain bread. Strange, huh?

B: Their prices are atrocious. Yeah it is expensive, but in the same range of price than any other major labels. It is called following the market.

I get 200 servings of creatine for 15 bucks. I get a month's supply of fish oil for 28. Those are two things that actually work. It's not about following the market, it's about producing overpriced, overhyped bullpoop.

C: No I have never tried any NX labs stuff How can you says so then? Seriously, how can someone critique someting he never experienced or tried?

Because nearly every "pump" supplement on the market is essentially the same formula with a couple useless filler switches. If glycerol is so fucking special and you can get a bottle for 11 bucks at a pharmacy, and you can get Arginine AKG for relatively cheap off of the internet, what is the point of spending so much money on NX's shit?

D: I buy things that have been empirically and experimentally shown to work They have been showed to work in clinical testing I can assure you. You can always ask the company for their data and they have the obligation to give their results to you. Maybe you are satisfied and you have good result with food only. Unfortunatly it is not the case for everyone and some people wants to get that little extra that will help them to achieve their goals . God bless you, you have the best genetic on earth, you get all the sleep, the food you need and you're training session are getting better everytime you go at the gym. Awsome!


Yeah, I am pretty great.

Man I don't want to create any drama here, but if you can't deal with a simple joke here, you have a serious issue with yourself.


Yeah, I should really learn to deal with simple jokes

[THE 0NE]

hey kitosho its funny because since you are saying the products are shit and everything then fuck off and work out on your own the way god intended it, ok? now why dont you talk your nerdy skinny ass down to the gym and try to lift some 5 pounders k?

[Kitosho]

hey kitosho its funny because since you are saying the products are shit and everything then fuck off and work out on your own the way god intended it, ok? now why dont you talk your nerdy skinny ass down to the gym and try to lift some 5 pounders k?




: (

[Lobo]

Yeah, Kitosho!

[Kitosho]

Thanks to Plasmavol i can now "[Take my] nerdy skinny ass down to the gym and try to lift some 5 pounders."

Thanks, Plasmavol!

[Pale Nimbus]

hey kitosho its funny because since you are saying the products are shit and everything then fuck off and work out on your own the way god intended it, ok? now why dont you talk your nerdy skinny ass down to the gym and try to lift some 5 pounders k?

You go girl!

[kevinhimself]

13 yr old ATTACK!!!!!!

[Chuck The Truck]

Hey it doesn't matter guys, don't waste your time here. kittieoshito has right to his own opinion. I just have a request for him. Can you send us a picture of yourself? I just would like to know how you look. You can hide your face if you want to. Thank you.

[kevinhimself]

I smell a challenge

[Kitosho]

http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~higu/doraemon/images/dorabros1.gif

[Rahf]

Why would he need to send a picture? Does it make him less credible if he isn't insanely buff?

[Gazapo]

My pleasure man. Try the mix: glycerine (like I said 11$ in any pharmacy, you don't need any prescription) with your favorite pre-workout drink (make sure it has some arginine in it). You'll see, it's a lot of fun in the gym when the size of your arms doubles.

Will let you know :good:

[Gazapo]

http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~higu/doraemon/images/dorabros1.gif

hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pale Nimbus]

Kitosho weightlifts to supplement his slapstick comedy routines.

[Chuck The Truck]

Why would he need to send a picture? Does it make him less credible if he isn't insanely buff?

insanely buff...no. Don't misunderstand me here, on this forum every trickster is not a bodybuilder or maybe doesn't want to be hudge like a bodybuilder. We might not have the same goal. Tricking is not bodybuilding. But if a speaking broomstick comes to me, saying some stuff is shit, with poor arguments, saying he didn't even try it and that his stuff is better, when I've seen tremedous amount of people having awsome results with NxLabs products, including me and that I can't see any result on him, actually yes his credibility would take a shot.

It's the same exemple for me when I talk to anyone in the sport who have accomplished a lot more than me. When I talk to Antoine or I have the chance to talk to Mr Canada, I tend to listen to him more than critizising the way he took to get where he is. Usually I will try the advice he gave me, and if it doesn't work on me, I will try something different. I'm not saying that Kithosho is an asshole or anything (sorry I misspell your name in my last post), I'm just glad we can have a good discussion. I'm just saying he should watch what he says if he doesn't bring any good arguments on the table.

[Lobo]

Kitosho is an established member and generally knows what he's talking about though. And you really are a fucking retard if you actually think NXLabs products (or like 95% of other proprietary supplements) are worth buying, ha ha.

[Chuck The Truck]

Who talked about buying it? I tought we were having a review about the quality of NxLabs products. I never said it wasn't expensive. All I said is that they make quality products and that they are in the same price range than any other companies. I don't know where you guys get your supplements, but I've been manager for Gnc and if you get your stuff there or any in other store chain you guys have down there, of course it's expensive. Remember that it's not the company that make the product expensive, it's all the hand to hand between dictributors and stores. A 15$ 2lbs high quality Isolate protein can easily get to 40$ in a store. Personnaly I do business directly with the NxLabs distributor and NxLabs products are little bit more expensive than regional companies, but I think that the difference is worth it.

And no lobo I'm not retarted. I was on this forum long time ago. I've spent a lot of time giving advice and I earned my reputation. I don't value number of post but more the quality of each one.

[jan]

I prefer sticking to Proteinfabrikken and Danlab's stuff.


... though, those are close to the only companies I can buy stuff from without paying a bigass 25% customs tax for importing stuff worth more than $30...

[Rahf]

I prefer sticking to Proteinfabrikken and Danlab's stuff.


... though, those are close to the only companies I can buy stuff from without paying a bigass 25% customs tax for importing stuff worth more than $30...

I've already made a try but none in my social network seem to be heading for Norway anytime soon, otherwise I'd slip some EAAs with them.

Don't you know any Swedes that can send you that shit? Are they asstwats in customs if there's an international package within Norden?

[Chuck The Truck]

I got to agree that for people in Norway and Sweden, NxLabs, wich is company from canada (where I'm from), might be quite expensive to order. For me, it's really easy to get the stuff. No custom, no hand to hand, direct to me fomr the distributor and I pay cost price.

[jan]

I've already made a try but none in my social network seem to be heading for Norway anytime soon, otherwise I'd slip some EAAs with them.

Don't you know any Swedes that can send you that shit? Are they asstwats in customs if there's an international package within Norden?

Customs are generally asshats. I paid 200 extra NOKs for a hoodie, a t-shirt and a CD from the Machinae Supremacy store, which is Swedish. Reason: They cost more than 200 NOK all together.

[Gazapo]

Customs are generally asshats. I paid 200 extra NOKs for a hoodie, a t-shirt and a CD from the Machinae Supremacy store, which is Swedish. Reason: They cost more than 200 NOK all together.

Customs fucking blows.

[Honken]

You can get most brands here in Sweden, even NxLabs. I didn't know the customs were that high inside Scandinavia?

[jan]

The customs tax thing is only 7.5% in entire Europe (I think), except in Norway. Ours is 25%.

[Martialartsguyfl]

just for the record, i have a bottle of NX care, VASO right next to me and its insaneeeeee the pump hits me within about 20 minutes because of the capsule delivery and a low bf percentage. Increases endurance, muscle development, and alot of other good stuff, so im betting their mass system is pretty good too.

[Kitosho]

One time a really incredibly huge buff guy came into the vitamin shoppe i worked at and told me to eat a lot of balogna sandwiches. True story.

[jan]

One time a really buff guy came into the gym I work out at and told me to start drinking more beer, as it was rich in proteins, and would increase my testosterone.

True story.

[Kitosho]

Oh really?

[Lobo]

Who talked about buying it? I tought we were having a review about the quality of NxLabs products. I never said it wasn't expensive. All I said is that they make quality products and that they are in the same price range than any other companies. I don't know where you guys get your supplements, but I've been manager for Gnc and if you get your stuff there or any in other store chain you guys have down there, of course it's expensive. Remember that it's not the company that make the product expensive, it's all the hand to hand between dictributors and stores. A 15$ 2lbs high quality Isolate protein can easily get to 40$ in a store. Personnaly I do business directly with the NxLabs distributor and NxLabs products are little bit more expensive than regional companies, but I think that the difference is worth it.
Considering almost every supplement company is running a borderline scam, it hardly matters that NXLabs are around the same price as their competitors. As for the quality of their products... I mean, Christ, all these fucking companies buy their ingredients from much the same manufacturers (dairy producers, Chinese labs), bottle it, and stick a different label on it. If you really believe that supplement company x's product is significantly superior to supplement company y's comparable product (i.e. comparing like for like, and not an isolate whey to a concentrate one) then you have no idea how the industry even works.

And no lobo I'm not retarted. I was on this forum long time ago. I've spent a lot of time giving advice and I earned my reputation. I don't value number of post but more the quality of each one."Earned your reputation"? No-one even knows who the fuck you are. And you're spouting drivel anyway, so I doubt your previous advice was particularly useful either.

[Lobo]

just for the record, i have a bottle of NX care, VASO right next to me and its insaneeeeee the pump hits me within about 20 minutes because of the capsule delivery and a low bf percentage. Increases endurance, muscle development, and alot of other good stuff, so im betting their mass system is pretty good too.
Urgh. Go and do some coke or something then come back and try to describe the effects of a nitric oxide supplement as "insane" without sarcasm (which of course Chuck would be utterly oblivious to anyway).

[Kitosho]

the pumps were iINSNSNNANANSNENEENENNE

he sounds like the dude who writes for the Animal Pak website rofl

[Lobo]

Some dumb kid is liable to read the shit spewed over this thread then waste their parent's money on crap like Plasmavol and see zero difference in terms of results, possibly while falsely perceiving some effect (like Martialartsguyfl) due to weakness of character.

[Takpapp]

Lobo wins.

[jan]

Indeed so.

[Kitosho]

Hey guys, I bought (stole) some plasmavol from work yesterday. I'm going to try it before my high-volume back workout today (along with a can of redline). Report to follow.

[Steve]

So I guess you could say that you were the only person that was not expressly sponsored by NXLabs who got a free sample of Plasmavol.

[Kitosho]

Yes.

Anyways, here was the workout. It had a crappy start but ultimately wasn't too bad:

Deadlifts: 315x5/335x2/355x2/375x2/395x2/415x1/455x1 (Grip is really starting to become a limiting factor here)
Pullups: 30x5, 0x5,5,5,5,5
Some more random pullups/negatives and shit
Lat pulldowns: Drop sets(100x10, 90x10, 70x10, 50x10, 30x10)x2, 120x5

THE RESULTS:

I got a pump from the pullups and lat pulldowns (amazingly enough). Then I took a huge shit. I did not notice anything out of the ordinary.

PLASMAVOL RATING: 1/5 (gets 1 point for being green which is neat)

-Kevin