Simple modifications that yield significant results

[AdamSwaluk]

These two paragraphs are probably longer than necessary, so I'll leave a quick summary way at the bottom for those of you who have better things to do with your time, like flame new tricksters.

A couple days ago, after reading Juji's hypertwist tutorial over again, I realized the reason that I wasn't experiencing success with the move. Juji specifically mentioned the problem in his tutorial. The problem was that I was still twisting as if to do a simple btwist, which obviously isn't enough to get the extra rotation required to hyper it!

Now, to the point. I realized after reading that that I have found a comfortable twisting speed for my btwists, and probably for the rest of my twisting moves as well. So, tonight after my Tae Kwon Do class, I threw a btwist and twisted as hard as I could, as if to go for a double, but came out of it after one twist. It was most likely the single greatest btwist I had ever done.

Now, this discovery alone is not worthy of its own thread, so I'd like to call on the rest of you to tell us about any simple, perhaps painfully obvious, modifications that you've made to a trick (or tricks) that made a huge difference (positive or negative difference).





SUMMARY: I started twisting harder for my btwists, rather than twisting only as much as I needed, and my btwists got pretty "hella". Have you made any small changes to tricks that gave dandy-sauce results? Or maybe craptastic results?

[Skilzat85X]

Bend your lifting leg when you takeoff a hypertwist.

Lift your chest into the sky when you raiz (sideswipe, cheat720twist, etc).

Swing sideways when you aerial.

WRAP tightly in cheat 720s and jacknives.

Wrap during like everything that turns ahaha.

More to come! :good:

[*<User Name]

Leaving my head looking at the floor longer than necessary

Adding kicks to moves with no kicks

[Ambitrixterous]

'kicking' my leg into corks rather than just raising it up and jumping off of the other one moved my "almost!" doublecorks to doublecorks

I had always known to do that I just lost it somewhere along the way... haha

[Aahem]

Bend your lifting leg when you takeoff a hypertwist.

Hey Skilz, got any good tips for regular btwists? I want my standing ones to be as floaty as those great ones *thinks about Bubba (hyperhook, bitches!) and Marc C*... Mm... I just can't get that height for the life of me! Should post a vid prolly...

So ya, any pointers? Super stall, super something?

EDIT: Why would you bend your leg for htwist (?and btwist?)?


- Ade

[Skilzat85X]

Hey Skilz, got any good tips for regular btwists? I want my standing ones to be as floaty as those great ones *thinks about Bubba (hyperhook, bitches!) and Marc C*... Mm... I just can't get that height for the life of me! Should post a vid prolly...

So ya, any pointers? Super stall, super something?

EDIT: Why would you bend your leg for htwist (?and btwist?)?


- Ade
1st) Dip down like a vertical leap (only during a btwist setup ha), jump up with everything and especially lift your chest up.

2nd)
If you leg isn't bent it is much harder for it to stick the landing. You can't kick it out or let it cross over your other leg if it isn't bent. This was a problem for me because I usually do "straight" legged relatively speaking btwists.

For example, look at these two key points: first being a butterfly twist, second being a hypertwist.
http://www.justtheskills.com/guideimages/ButterflyTwist/Demo_ButterflyTwist_0009.jpghttp://www.justtheskills.com/guideimages/ButterflyTwist/Demo_ButterflyTwist_0010.jpg
http://www.trickstutorials.com/images/t_hypertwist9.jpghttp://www.trickstutorials.com/images/t_hypertwist10.jpg
Ok it's still sorta hard to make out in these frames haha.

But the point is, A bending your leg allows it to then shoot out fast into the landing, and B if your leg is straight it can't cross over your other one. In the top pictures the trailing leg that will come down and swing through blah blah blah is sorta bent but not fully bent. This means if I try to pull it down past my other leg, it just won't work. The bottom of my leg (the calf/shin section) will get "caught" on my leading leg. This means the only way to land on my "hyper" leg is to rotate all the way over on it, which is harder and less efficient.
But, if the leg is waaay bent like in bottom examples, the leading leg won't be in the way and the leg can simply shoot down and land for a quick and easy hypertwist!

[Aahem]

Lots of useful stuff

Thanks Skilz, you are teh hero. I have not yet even really tried any htwists, as I want to get an s/t btwist first... but this will surely come in handy when I finally do! :good:

EDIT:

1st) Dip down like a vertical leap (only during a btwist setup ha), jump up with everything and especially lift your chest up.
Wait what, ONLY during a btwist setup huh? What what? Why not for htwist? :dead:

Oh and... any notable differences between a b-twist s/t and a normal one?

EDIT2:
Oh and here's my tip! Don't think about your arms in aerials, especially in ax2aerials! They will fuck you up... especially in a2as! ESPECIALLY in them! I got my axe2a when I stopped forcing all kindsa weird arm movements in the equation. I stole this tip from TKD_Andy!

EDIT3:
Got around to checking your tutorials Skilz, really good stuff in there! Clean as hell as well! Keep them coming! :good:


- Ade

[Dave]

Wait what, ONLY during a btwist setup huh? What what? Why not for htwist? :dead:

In the context of what he was saying, that isn't what he meant. He simply mean dip as if you were doing a vertical leap [but instead of a vertical leap, you are doing a btwist].


Anyway, things which helped me considerably which were simple... it's not really what you meant but "drilling the basics" changed the way i thought about tricking and helped me a lot.

[Aahem]

In the context of what he was saying, that isn't what he meant. He simply mean dip as if you were doing a vertical leap [but instead of a vertical leap, you are doing a btwist].


Ah yes. I blame the fact I'm not a native English speaker for mah misinterpretation. Thanks for explaining!


- Ade

[Dave]

That's fine, I was going to flame you then i realised a lot of people on these forums do not know English as a first language so I figured I'd explain.

[Skilzat85X]

Haha ya Dave is right, I meant the whole "butterfly setup" deal, that you use for bkicks btwists htwists etc etc etc. :smile:

[Aahem]

Haha ya Dave is right, I meant the whole "butterfly setup" deal, that you use for bkicks btwists htwists etc etc etc. :smile:

Yo Skilz, when's the sampler due? :tongue:


- Ade

[Snoski]

Improved my 540 kick significantly by keeping my eye contact more up (about 45 degrees from horizontal).
My sideswipe lvld up when I tried to look straight up (instead of down to the ground which I usually do).
And got my first b-twist by trying to lick the ground in my dip :tongue:

[frankinstine]

Yo Skilz, when's the sampler due? :tongue:


- Ade

any earlier than 2012 would be a miracle.

[BoredArnold]

when i did a feilong kick, i forgot to unpoint my feet while they were coming down and landed on my toes. that hurt like crazy

[Birch]

frontflip. i had a session where i was tucking the opposite way, or arching my back and it was really rearded. and i got laughed at