Movement Analysis - Aerial

[Shikayo]

Move

Aerial, standing.

Problem

Although I can land it, it isn’t as smooth as I would like it.
The hips need to turn to create a path for the leading leg to land underneath you. In order to turn the hips, one needs to: look in the direction of the movement, and turn the shoulders in the direction of the movement. This turns the hips.

However, after close examination I have realised that I do not turn my hips fast enough. I turn my hips toward the end of the movement, at which point I only just make the landing in time: by bringing my leg down underneath me.

You are probably thinking:

“Okay, so he understands his problem. Why doesn’t he go outside and do what he’s said he’s not doing?”

I am thinking exactly the same thing. But I'm having difficulty turning my hips sooner. All I am asking for is advice on how to go about correcting my problem.

1. Can anyone suggest new techniques I could employ, etc?
2. Has anyone else had the same problem?
3. Are there any other areas I could improve on?

Video

Eu5ohszta5c

Filmstrip

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i166/Shikayo/FilmstripI.jpg

I have numbered the slides to make reference easier.

Thank you in advance.

:swashy:

[Augenatic]

Wow, I was just going to make a thread about something like this (About other techniques that turns around your body around in the aerial), haha! Good timing.

[Shikayo]

Haha, maybe I'm not the only one who'll benefit from this thread then.

^_^

[Augenatic]

Haha, maybe I'm not the only one who'll benefit from this thread then.

^_^

Hopefully not! :tongue:

[ShuFFs]

Hmm.. maybe try bringing your right arm down in front of your leg instead of behind it when you take off. This will turn your hips over like this:

http://www.justtheskills.com/index.php?act=show_guide&v_id=20

I'm going to go experiment with this. =O

[Skilzat85X]

You are a very, very beautiful man for making a thread such as this.

It is great how you have already analyzed this yourself and have diagnosed your own problems, and are still asking for more technique tips from others.

Ok, two big pieces of advice that helped me much, and one small one:
1) First, try to position the leg you jump off of under your chest more, as opposed to farther behind you.
2) Approach the move as if you're swinging into it. That helps a looot. It's one of those things that you can't notice in others aerials you can only feel it for yourself. Basically, think of it like this.
Do an outside crescent or something into an aerial. So you're basically doing it sideways (keeping proper aerial form still, takeoff foot pointed in the direction you're going). Since you're going sideways you sort of have to swing your upper body from facing the front to the side and up. Swing your upper body! I used to really on just going straight forwards and forcing my arms and shoulders to turn over. But just swinging the whole dang thing to turn over really helped a lot. It's sort of hard to explain, but basically mimic the motion you do when you aerial after a crescent.
3) This may or may not help, play around with the above advice first. But anyways, note where you're swinging your right arm. You pull it behind your legs. This means to turn over to the front, your arm is going to have to come from back there and cross over the "line" or the path you're traveling on (since an aerial travels in one straight direction.
You could alternatively try pulling your right arm up but in front of your legs. So basically from that angle we're seeing it the view of your right arm wouldn't be blocked by your leg.
Or perhaps, you could try just turning your head over sooner. When you takeoff you sorta look at your foot, instead try to look forwards the whole time.
Look at Juji here:
http://www.trickstutorials.com/images/t_aero5.jpghttp://www.trickstutorials.com/images/t_aero6.jpg
Already looking forwards before his foot even leaves the ground.

Play with that advice, start off moderately at first so you don't screw yourself up. But I'm sure at least one of those pieces of advice will help lol.


EDIT: Woooo go ShuFFs same advice as me haha.
After studying more I think bringing your arm up behind your leg isn't too much of a problem if you turn over and spot the landing early and fast, like Juji. But bringing it up in front can be beneficial in both cases. It's all about preference and what's comfortable to you.

[Bertie]

Btw guys...I noticed...quite a few people hardly swing their arms at all in an aerial and it looks like their just using their feet. Does that only come after a lot of aerial practice?

[Shikayo]

You are a very, very beautiful man for making a thread such as this.

It is great how you have already analyzed this yourself and have diagnosed your own problems, and are still asking for more technique tips from others.

:smile: Thank you!

Ok, two big pieces of advice that helped me much, and one small one:
1) First, try to position the leg you jump off of under your chest more, as opposed to farther behind you.

I have just attempted a few cartwheels/one-handed cartwheels employing this tip: it appears to work extremely well! Unfortunately it is 21:10 right now here, and the grass is extremely slippy, but I shall employ the technique next week.

:]

2) Approach the move as if you're swinging into it. That helps a looot. It's one of those things that you can't notice in others aerials you can only feel it for yourself. Basically, think of it like this.
Do an outside crescent or something into an aerial. So you're basically doing it sideways (keeping proper aerial form still, takeoff foot pointed in the direction you're going). Since you're going sideways you sort of have to swing your upper body from facing the front to the side and up. Swing your upper body! I used to really on just going straight forwards and forcing my arms and shoulders to turn over. But just swinging the whole dang thing to turn over really helped a lot. It's sort of hard to explain, but basically mimic the motion you do when you aerial after a crescent.

I understand you perfectly. I'll have a play with different 'swinging' kicks to find something that feels smooth and easy to go straight into an aerial with.

3) This may or may not help, play around with the above advice first. But anyways, note where you're swinging your right arm. You pull it behind your legs. This means to turn over to the front, your arm is going to have to come from back there and cross over the "line" or the path you're traveling on (since an aerial travels in one straight direction.
You could alternatively try pulling your right arm up but in front of your legs. So basically from that angle we're seeing it the view of your right arm wouldn't be blocked by your leg.

I attempted a one-handed cartwheel with my right arm swinging down infront of the leg, as you and ShuFFs said, and it does improve the speed at which my shoulders turn. I've seen your videos before and it does add a certain edge to the move: so I'll try it with an aerial next week.

Or perhaps, you could try just turning your head over sooner. When you takeoff you sorta look at your foot, instead try to look forwards the whole time.
Look at Juji, already looking forwards before his foot even leaves the ground.

I didn't notice that he is already looking before his foot leaves the ground: Thank you for pointing it out.

:smile:

Thank you for your advice Skilzat99X - thorough and thoughtful, and I really appreciate it. However, I'm off on my travels tomorrow (holiday - just to the coast), so I wont be able to access a computer for about a week. But I've written your advice down in a little trickbook of mine (I is proud of my trickbook! :smile:) and shall experiment.

:smile:

I shall let you know how it goes. The tip about the chest seems like a perfect idea!

Btw guys...I noticed...quite a few people hardly swing their arms at all in an aerial and it looks like their just using their feet. Does that only come after a lot of aerial practice?

I've always pondered about this too... :wonder:

[Cicero]

Jump higher and spin faster.