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Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 08:18 AM
im raging in anger because im so close to landing this shitty trick all the time but i just never can! anyway i need discriptive tips and im pretty sure im lacking in the twist (my legs?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO0q3UxBavg

btw i landed my first shuriken cork that same day!!! :juji:

Dragonic MiKe
Sep-22-07, 08:28 AM
Yeah, you don't apear to spin as quickly as people who can land who can land them. I think this probably has more to do with your arms (shoulders) which uaually generate the twist.

Other than that you have masses of height and a pretty onorthadox setup. :tongue:

Munks
Sep-22-07, 08:30 AM
you delay the spin a bit too much, spin as soon as theres air between ur big toe and the floor

+ the 1st spin is so slow, and the 2nd is very fast, try equal them up > tuck in faster

Dragonic MiKe
Sep-22-07, 08:34 AM
you delay the spin a bit too much, spin as soon as theres air between ur big toe and the floor

+ the 1st spin is so slow, and the 2nd is very fast, try equal them up

Yeah, I was gonna suggest sacrificing a little height for rotation but then I didn't cause I suck. :ouch:

Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 08:36 AM
but thats how i get my height, by stalling the twist.

i use the gswitch set up because i feel like it get more height...and when i try just a double cork then i screw up even more, weird

alpha7158
Sep-22-07, 08:36 AM
easy to fix. At the moment you spin and you are looking over your shoulder. Change it so that you are spinning with your head pointing into body (side of chin on chest towards the shoulder)

Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 08:39 AM
awww, scalco told me that tip a few months ago but i forgot it! i have tryed corks that way and it felt faster, i have to write this down so i wont forget it. thanks guys

Duke_Hoff
Sep-22-07, 08:59 AM
That is the nicest g-switch to double everrrr, and you didn't even land it!

kamikaze!
Sep-22-07, 09:11 AM
I agree with Sir Duke.
Fucktastic gainer switch.

Andy R
Sep-22-07, 09:20 AM
how the hell do you go so high

NOT Muscle Man
Sep-22-07, 11:04 AM
how the hell do you go so high


gravity is his bitch

cepopeye
Sep-22-07, 11:11 AM
Yo! John, i'd say that theres a few ways yo could go about this! the first is changing you cork technique to be less perfect in a gymnastic sense, and look more like other trickers. BUT! fuck that i think, since you already have yout intensely perfect gainer full!

INSTEAD:

makes sure you can do a roundoff doublefull, i'm not sure if you can or not right now, but the way you're doing you're gainerfull right now is so gymnastically perfect that if you can't do a gymnast doublefull i have serious doubts that you'll be able to get the spin fast enough from the gainer. Work the doublefull until its perfect and easy, and for you this should mean it looks exactly like a gymnast's doublefull!! If you can't do this yet, i have complete faith that with your skill and power you'll get it in a matter of weeks if not days or hours or minutes, since its not THAT hard a move! Get its eventualy so that you can essentially get the flip and both twists done with good height and slatt and either miss your feet entirely or overrotate past them just tapping them onto your but. This will help you generate the extra torque needed for a doublecork over a doublefull. then, combine your gainerfull and your doublefull and do a gainer doublefull!

crazyhalfasian
Sep-22-07, 12:34 PM
be less awesome.

Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 01:12 PM
haha, thanks guys! and cepopeye thanks for the tips...but the thing is i haven't been working on my gfulls and im slacking on those :sad: but i can do a ro doublefull on a running tramp, dont have the balls to try on floor yet :eh: so ill work on that.

Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 01:14 PM
be less awesome.

oh yeah Evan, i landed a shuriken cork yesterday!

Siphin
Sep-22-07, 01:15 PM
try it without the gainer swtich 1st

Vaughnya
Sep-22-07, 01:17 PM
i have but the gswitch only powers me up

Augenatic
Sep-22-07, 01:41 PM
i have but the gswitch only powers me up

That does not suprice me.

cepopeye
Sep-22-07, 01:55 PM
haha, thanks guys! and cepopeye thanks for the tips...but the thing is i haven't been working on my gfulls and im slacking on those :sad: but i can do a ro doublefull on a running tramp, dont have the balls to try on floor yet :eh: so ill work on that.

haha, it shouldn't be a whole lot scarier than the doublecork! and seriously, your cork are still gainerfulled to the max, so don't sweat whether or not you've been working on them!

broertjetim
Sep-22-07, 02:51 PM
such a nice gainer switch without using your arms
weird but impresive.

crazyhalfasian
Sep-22-07, 03:45 PM
oh yeah Evan, i landed a shuriken cork yesterday!

Oh shit dude!!! NICE!! Thats funny cuz i was tryin them the other day but i busted my @$$!

You should release some more Paramax-OHIO footy dude:wicked:!!

johnnyg42
Sep-22-07, 03:49 PM
its actually pretty easy to tell. On the double cork your not using your arms enough to generate torque. You have to literally punch your right arm across your chest and use your left elbow to jab behind you. Watch Dave C's newest, samp he seriously throws diesel punches before he twists :tongue:

k-slash
Sep-22-07, 04:59 PM
bend your knees of the first rotation, straighten them on the second.

ramtin
Sep-22-07, 05:00 PM
your hands mannn..use your hands..throw them in a hard an big motion you know..dont wrap up so soon..if you do that you'll twist faster...

Vaughnya
Sep-23-07, 07:01 PM
yeah, my arms are quit gay sometimes...i even tell myself that at times to use my arms for spin or lift but once im about to jump i forget or just dont do it, blah. well ill really drill these tips into my head so this friday when i land one, ill post it!

thanks!

Rudy
Sep-23-07, 08:00 PM
so...kgb...can you gainer quad flash?

Vaughnya
Sep-24-07, 04:56 AM
so...kgb...can you gainer quad flash?

never tryed

sounds interesting, i will next session

im sure if i had shorter legs like terada it would be easier

alpha7158
Sep-25-07, 04:26 AM
gainer quad flashes look no way near as nice as gainer triples

Kaos
Sep-25-07, 04:30 AM
gainer quad flashes look no way near as nice as gainer triples

Depends on how nice your Quads are, If my quads were as good as my triples, I'd think you'd say different. I mean, 4 Kicks High and floaty? What would you say then?

alpha7158
Sep-25-07, 04:36 AM
put it this way (as said on msn lol)

the best triple flash in the world > the best quad flash

flipkicks150
Sep-26-07, 03:50 PM
i have nothing to contribute here but i cant get over how high you get on your gainer switchz

AdamSwaluk
Sep-26-07, 08:02 PM
You don't set, which is kill your backwards rotation (your flip), and, as Munks previously stated, you should twist as soon as you are off the ground.

Incredible transition, by the way.

Vaughnya
Sep-27-07, 06:30 AM
ive tryed twisting off the ground before and it kills my hight vasely so i just said screw it and always did corks after a long stall. ill try it again, but i think if i threw my arms up and then behind myself i could get a faster spin....right? at least thats what it seems like when Teddy does them.

pete_man_man
Sep-27-07, 09:05 AM
ive tryed twisting off the ground before and it kills my hight vasely so i just said screw it and always did corks after a long stall. ill try it again, but i think if i threw my arms up and then behind myself i could get a faster spin....right? at least thats what it seems like when Teddy does them.

that just makes him invert.. you need to get into a tighter position and just wrench the twist round. your legs are a mess

pete_man_man
Sep-27-07, 09:06 AM
twist with your shoulders not your lats

Hez
Sep-27-07, 11:35 AM
I'm working on double cork atm as well. Well I tried one. Couldn't really get into the spin, arched my back and fucked stuff up. YOu should totally go for double fulls, they are absolute piss and you are so evidently capable.

And your gainer switch is without a doubt the best I have ever seen, by such a huge degree.

EDIT: Ok get your arms in way tighter, and probably slightly towards your spinning shoulder too