Trying to gayner flash

[kamikaze!]

So I was trying to gainer flash today and this turned out.
It looks more like a slanted gainer :sad:
Im trying to go over the head but Im tilting to the left too much : (
How can I turn into a TRUE gainer flash.:worry:
Any tips ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBKC6LMHjgE

[jiayo-chris]

You need to try and kick straight over your head, at the moment you are kicking over your shoulder abit causing you to slant.

[Andy R]

theres always the pivot setup. you will be completely inverted

[kamikaze!]

You need to try and kick straight over your head, at the moment you are kicking over your shoulder abit causing you to slant.

Im trying to but just before I kick I get too scared and rather kick to the side a bit. : [
Im afraid I wouldnt make the whole spin. : /
Do you think I could make it ?

theres always the pivot setup. you will be completely inverted
I thought I was doing the pivot? :eh:

[Dragonic MiKe]

Im afraid I wouldnt make the whole spin. : /
Do you think I could make it ?
Yes.


I thought I was doing the pivot? :eh:
No.

[Joebro]

see, with the J-Step (what you were doing) you're gonna (90% of the time) slant just because that's the direction your momentum is going. if you pivot though, you won't have to worry about slanting. this is my pivot (reverse) gainer flash:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5hpvr9E6E7Y
not the greatest, but notice how i go strait over instead of slanted? oddly enough, i like the slanted one (for looks) better

[kamikaze!]

why, thank you kind sir :good:
I shall try this out in tuesday
Thanks guys, I shall keep you updated
(so im doing j step, i thought i was doing a pivot thing...just watched dogens tutorial)

[Dizzy]

i believe its called a reverse gainer [correct me if im wrong]

[Joebro]

i believe its called a reverse gainer [correct me if im wrong]

pivot and reverse...(whatever) are synonims
ie: pivot gainer = revers gainer
haha, sorry for the confusion

[DYoo]

look at your arms. you dont bring your arms up, but up and then stop to the side. sooo bring your arms up and back. just like a back flip. dont veer them off to the side. other than you're good to go.

[biyak]

pivot and reverse...(whatever) are synonims
ie: pivot gainer = revers gainer
haha, sorry for the confusion

not true =\

pivot is when you touch with the same foot 2 consecutive times before jumping

reverse i when you face back totally

some times i do j step while pivoting it

buy never mind that

[Dragonic MiKe]

not true =\

pivot is when you touch with the same foot 2 consecutive times before jumping

reverse i when you face back totally

some times i do j step while pivoting it

buy never mind that

not true either =\

- Your foot doesn't have to leave the ground when you pivot, it just has to... well... pivot.

- You can't j-step while pivoting.

- I think the term "Reverse" should be avoided when referring to gainers.

[biyak]

not true either =\

- Your foot doesn't have to leave the ground when you pivot, it just has to... well... pivot.

- You can't j-step while pivoting.

- I think the term "Reverse" should be avoided when referring to gainers.

not true either =\

yes you can ... teddy does dbl cork from pivoted j step as many others

[Vaughnya]

if you want a straight backward gainer flash you need to run forward and do one like this http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01554/15/38/1554178351_l.gif

but using a j-turn you'll never get a gflash directly over your head...why, because you swing your leg out to the side.

also in your vid, you thru your left arm and shoulder to the side not up, thats what made your gflash so slanted. try to throw your arms and leg up and only up and wait (stall) then throw them back and your head back for the rotation

[jiayo-chris]

You truly have the best gainer flash EVER! :tongue:

[Vaughnya]

You truly have the best gainer flash EVER! :tongue:

thank you...my straight gainer flash have gotten better since this one :smile:

[kamikaze!]

KGB your gainers are top notch

btw, is this what im doing in the vid, Moonkick?
Or is it a slanted gainer flash? :blush: ;D

[Vaughnya]

moonkick, but to change it you have to think more backflip rather then turning to the side (left) at the take off.

[Dragonic MiKe]

not true either =\

yes you can ... teddy does dbl cork from pivoted j step as many others

Blasphemy.

[Bumstead]

i kinda had a problem like that but i fixed it by not taking such a powerful run up and instead just walking like 2 steps into a j-step instead of running. the run put way to much power into my leg and i lost all control.

[kamikaze!]

Haha will try that...well today I was in the gym but I was not in the right mood for gainers so I rater learned Roff btuck yeeeeey~~~~ :good:
Definately gotta try it in tuesday .
I gotta get mor comfortable with backflipping : /

[Scooba Dave]

um the only problem is ur take off, ur jstep forces a circular motion to ur kick, so if u cant combat that ur gunna have to run straight and attempt a gainer flash, if not just work out ur j so it isnt as circular

[waterboy]

ARCH.

do the same thing with your blocking on the J, the raising of your arms, and the kick of your leg, but let all of those follow your vision go up and back towards the ground.

what that does is pull your shoulders more evenly so you don't tilt, and with your arms and legs following through with it, you will commit and pull straight throughout the move.

as you get better, you can scrap the arching because you will have developed a feel for when to keep the shoulders even (straight gainer) versus slanted shoulders (slant gainer).

gl!

[fung lee]

So I was trying to gainer flash today and this turned out.
It looks more like a slanted gainer :sad:
Im trying to go over the head but Im tilting to the left too much : (
How can I turn into a TRUE gainer flash.:worry:
Any tips ?



Kamikaze!, if u are trying J-step gainer flash (not slant gainer, kick the moon...), wht u need to do is flip totally backward.

It is not advisable to skip back flip and j-step gainer (not gainer flash).
It is much easier for u to nail j-step gainer 1st, then move onto j-step gainer flash, just adding a step out.