Sideswipe tutorial needed

[J-Slide]

yo anyone i need help on my sideswipes i just cant swipe lol. I got side but not enough swipe i guess? If anyone knows of a good tutorial or can make a damn good one to help me out much appreciation! :tongue:

[Ifrit]

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[qwerty the asdf]

Lol, you got side but no swipe?

So... like a hyper 360 twist or some shit? haha

Pretty much it's just a 540 but inverted, that's how I think of it...

As far as a tutorial:
here ya go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpityki4ao

[orichiu]

I could make u one, but that would be directed to you.
if you could send me some footage too, then we'll get it sorted out :good:

[Traitor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dii32oAG8B8&NR=1

[Skilzat85X]

Not sure how good your Raiz is, so just in case: http://www.justtheskills.com/index.php?act=show_guide&v_id=17

For sideswipe:
http://www.justtheskills.com/index.php?act=show_guide&v_id=7

[J-Slide]

my raiz is good its just like when i sideswipe its a..hyper raiz? i guess i cant chamber and if i do it still looks like a hyper raiz lol i cant get the 540 look to it

[J-Slide]

ok one thing is my hips are not over my head so ill try to do that

[Less than Dan]

my raiz is good its just like when i sideswipe its a..hyper raiz? i guess i cant chamber and if i do it still looks like a hyper raiz lol i cant get the 540 look to it

A hyper raiz IS a sideswipe, and thinking about it like a hyper raiz tends to be visually the best way to do it.

[Swartz]

You need less tutorials and more practice J-Slide.

The fact that you say you "need" it is bad enough.

[Less than Dan]

You need less tutorials and more practice J-Slide.

The fact that you say you "need" it is bad enough.

Exactly. I had a fucking brain clot when people were asking for snapu tutorials a while back.

I'm so close to making a note about "SOME MOVES DO NOT NEED FULL TUTORIALS, SINCE THEY ARE A SIMPLE HYPER/COMPOUNDING OF MOVES" and getting that shit stickied.

Practice, people. Ask for tips, we love to help like that. But, you shouldn't have to get mommy'ed through this sport.

[Skilzat85X]

People need sideswipe tutorials because the majority of people are crappy at sideswipes ha.
Well I mean, some sideswipe is better than no sideswipe. But like, many people basically sideswipe by throwing their heads and backs back into the ground, and the swipe is basically there to save them from breaking their neck lol.

[TKD_Andy]

people need sideswipe tutorials because sideswipes are very individual moves, there are very few people who do them EXACTLY the same as the next person, and the 'feeling' of the technique plays a big part in both doing it and explaining it.

For example i could explain it in terms of a raiz-kick, as some people like to imagine it (not my personal choice) as its alot harder to get inverted due to the timing of the kick, as most people will try and kick too early, its a natural reaction. But with the raiz technique you have to delay the kick to get the best out of this.

I prefer to think of it as a supreme donkey kick in terms of axis allignment, going from vertical to inverted as fast as possible using the two extremeties as levels with the hips as the fulcrum. Coming round for the takeoff, the lead knee is going to come up so hard to kick you back, and the head arches just as hard, so the two are levering off of the hips, the fulcrum. Also, being a faster motion you dont have to delay quite as much, and its more of a chamber-kick rather than just a delay in technique.

Sideswipes are the fucking don when you've sorted your individual technique, and even those can change after practise. Im all for a whole range of tutorials on them, but its never a good idea for people to take any of them solely to heart.

smesh.

[J-Slide]

swartz i train like...all the time thats why i can doublecork :-P and yeah your prolly thinkin im a homo for not having sideswipes aha they are hard to me

[Scalco]

Jesse you're raiz isn't really good enough to have a good sideswipe yet dude.

[J-Slide]

Jesse you're raiz isn't really good enough to have a good sideswipe yet dude.

:( yes it is :(

[Skilzat85X]

Vidz or get out! :razz:

[Surge]

I can sideswipe but I seem to loose my balance when I land on the one foot! ARGH

[Less than Dan]

Jesse you're raiz isn't really good enough to have a good sideswipe yet dude.

You tell him, man! NOT ENOUGH RAGE.

[Scalco]

Sorry how about

Jesse you're raiz isn't really good enough to have a good sideswipe yet dude....NOOB!!!

just kidding man haha. But seriously you need to have a fully horizontal or inverted raiz for the sideswipe otherwise your sideswipe won't work. But I've seen your sideswipe before and yeah, no one really understands what you're saying about your sideswipe. Basically what your doing is a rain but then swinging your leg (but it's close to your body and bent) around. I don't get why you can't kick though. All I can really say is to keep practicing. Next time I trick with you I'll give you some advice in detail.

[Swartz]

swartz i train like...all the time thats why i can doublecork :-P and yeah your prolly thinkin im a homo for not having sideswipes aha they are hard to me

You're not a homo haha. I can't sideswipe but I don't believe I need a tutorial for it. I haven't even given it a serious try for that matter which I've been meaning to do but it kind of scares the shit out of me to launch my head way back and whatnot. I need to chuck it, not have it spoon-fed. I understand helpful tips and whatnot but everything I learned about sideswipe has been through talking with people or watching videos. Tutorials for it are also fantastic too but my point is nobody should think they NEED one to learn it. I hope that clarifies my stance on the subject.

[Jon P]

You're not a homo haha. I can't sideswipe but I don't believe I need a tutorial for it. I haven't even given it a serious try for that matter which I've been meaning to do but it kind of scares the shit out of me to launch my head way back and whatnot. I need to chuck it, not have it spoon-fed. I understand helpful tips and whatnot but everything I learned about sideswipe has been through talking with people or watching videos. Tutorials for it are also fantastic too but my point is nobody should think they NEED one to learn it. I hope that clarifies my stance on the subject.

Seriously man.
This should be a stickied note on the top of the tips for tricks forum and guides forum. People need to stop saying they need tutorials.
Not only that but there are tutorials out there for every move if you look.

[Scalco]

Seriously man.
This should be a stickied note on the top of the tips for tricks forum and guides forum. People need to stop saying they need tutorials.
Not only that but there are tutorials out there for every move if you look.

I agree it's been bothering me. I wonder if people make threads requesting tutorials and aren't even practicing the move and just waiting for the tutorial to be made. Just because some people make a video or something to give you tips about the move doesn't mean you'll be able to land it right away. Even if you know WHAT to do for the move, it's way harder to actually DO it then to just know what to do.

[Swartz]

I agree it's been bothering me. I wonder if people make threads requesting tutorials and aren't even practicing the move and just waiting for the tutorial to be made. Just because some people make a video or something to give you tips about the move doesn't mean you'll be able to land it right away. Even if you know WHAT to do for the move, it's way harder to actually DO it then to just know what to do.

Exactly and you don't have to wonder about that. I'm pretty sure it's the case half the time haha. HI SCALCO.

[Scalco]

haha yea
HI SWARTZ!!

[J-Slide]

ehh well i prefer tutorials cause im a visual person but i like to see things pointed out

[Swartz]

Yes that's why simple clips of moves are always the most useful tool, not necessary full-length tutorials, especially since people have different opinions on how moves should be done and at least with several clips you see a variety, can pick which kind you like and see how they do it.

Again, I'm not bashing tutorials. They ARE useful but people eat them up like holy pizza.

[Stallion]

i recall scalco making some sort of raiz/ sideswipe tutorial a while back. really helped me out.

[J-Slide]

wow this is gonna sound shitty but i lost control of my 540 today i was going back to basics today and it just like its FAST and the kick doesnt liek TOO great and i cant control the landing...SIGHHHHHHHH i was in a bad mood/headache though so wahtever

[Less than Dan]

Yes that's why simple clips of moves are always the most useful tool, not necessary full-length tutorials, especially since people have different opinions on how moves should be done and at least with several clips you see a variety, can pick which kind you like and see how they do it.

Again, I'm not bashing tutorials. They ARE useful but people eat them up like holy pizza.

I agree it's been bothering me. I wonder if people make threads requesting tutorials and aren't even practicing the move and just waiting for the tutorial to be made. Just because some people make a video or something to give you tips about the move doesn't mean you'll be able to land it right away. Even if you know WHAT to do for the move, it's way harder to actually DO it then to just know what to do.

Seriously man.
This should be a stickied note on the top of the tips for tricks forum and guides forum. People need to stop saying they need tutorials.
Not only that but there are tutorials out there for every move if you look.

Exactly. I had a fucking brain clot when people were asking for snapu tutorials a while back.

I'm so close to making a note about "SOME MOVES DO NOT NEED FULL TUTORIALS, SINCE THEY ARE A SIMPLE HYPER/COMPOUNDING OF MOVES" and getting that shit stickied.

Practice, people. Ask for tips, we love to help like that. But, you shouldn't have to get mommy'ed through this sport.

I think we're on to something here.

[Federico00]

Jessie you can't post a raiz double cork one week and the next week say you can't sideswipe. If you can get those moves then you shouldn't have to ask for a tutorial on sideswipes. Just work it

[mike111590]

I understand why you would want to ask for a tutorial Jesse, but sometimes u just gotta practice and figure out some shit for yourself.
With moves like double cork all you need to do is chuck a few and eventually u land, but with moves that take more technique like Sideswipe, it just takes a lot of practice and drilling.
By drilling i don't mean the 5 or 6 you attempt every saturday session, I mean seriously going off to the side and throwing a lot of sideswipes then analyzing then changing and doing it again.

[Skilzat85X]

Yea J-Slide, I just watch your Raiz > Double Cork vid (which I must say is quite sick ahah) but I mean your Raiz is definately not ready. It's hardly even a Raiz right now :sad:, it's just a fancy step-over. Work the Raiz! My tutorial outlines specific points for improving ones current Raiz.

[J-Slide]

i did fix my raiz its flatter the one in the doublecork vid was shitty cause i rushed thought to much of the doublecork but... since ive been doing it this way i have such a hard time picking my damn chest up

[KillTech]

you can always search "sideswipe" or "swideswipe tutorial" on youtube... theres a good one from a french asian kid. a bad one from tkd andy, and a few others... but yeah i mean that just means you can do raize as a single move and a weird 45 degree angle j step for swing throughs wich u call a raize, you have to drill your new raize the way it is until it progresses to a comfortable swing through.. dont rush it... and then when your raize becomes inverted just kick over like a 540 or a flashkick.

[KillTech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osJ30AP_iz8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpityki4ao&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dii32oAG8B8 ... all i typed in the youtube search was
"sideswipe tutorial".

[TKD_Andy]

a bad one from tkd andy

hahaha, too bad i still pwn you

[CusTuM]

Heres how I see it:

You need a good raiz, but if u manage to Sswipe well without one it'll make your raiz better cuz they're that closely tied.

I do see this move as a Raiz that's like... hypered.

I usually set up with a little half turn so my back is facing the target and jet the non kicking leg pretty straight up as I turn my head towards the ceiling and swing my arms around and upwards. Key thing here as you do all that is to get your hips as high as you can as you swing that non-kicking leg around.

Hopefully from there you can kick a target thats more or less right above your head and have the momentum from everything u've been doing so far bring you over. The kick is more like the kick you do in a flash kick, i.e. a front kick and not as much like a roundhouse kick cuz your hips shouldn't be turned all that much like they should be in an upright 540.


*edit* JR says basically everything I just said in his tut, but he says dip your head down, don't focus too much on that although it's true, it's probably better to focus on getting the hips up. He also claims that he thinks about it like a flash kick, but in practice he does something inbetween a flash kick and a roundhouse kick (Which is fine).

gl hf.....