Genetics SUCK. (SPLITS)

[crazykorean]

Is it true some people are just born naturals? Or born not to do something?

I can do the full straight frontal splits..but I can't sideways (2 inches up)..i dont even get a STRETCH! it feels as if my hip joints are gonna pop out..and they have before....

But i can do 180 degree (vertical axe kicks and center thrust kicks.)

-_-

any thoughts?

[windowmaker]

Sure does sound like your hips aren't cut out for it =(.

One way to check is to stand straight and put one leg on a chair that's about hip-height... If both legs can individually reach 90 degrees then your hips will allow you to do side splits.

[crazykorean]

ehh........nope...my hips and torso wont stay upright..i kinda lean...probably why i never could kick with the full torque of using my hips...

[flipster]

yeah I kinda have the same problem. I pass neither the front split test nor the side split test. However there are ways to improve joint mobility with specific drills. I'm not an expert though, so I suggest you look it up on google or buy a book/dvd about it.

[windowmaker]

yeah I kinda have the same problem. I pass neither the front split test nor the side split test. However there are ways to improve joint mobility with specific drills. I'm not an expert though, so I suggest you look it up on google or buy a book/dvd about it.

Are you serious O_O! I thought it was impossible, hang on a sex I wanna test my hips because I've never done it and my side splits are kinda lame.

Okay, I THINK I passed the test but it'd probably be good if I somehow made my joints more lax? Are you sure it's possible though? It seems far-fetched.

[crazykorean]

yeah I kinda have the same problem. I pass neither the front split test nor the side split test. However there are ways to improve joint mobility with specific drills. I'm not an expert though, so I suggest you look it up on google or buy a book/dvd about it.

Improve joint mobility???

thats a new one. i think if you stretch TOO much it can be bad...start tearing the tendons and cartilage... ).) im an example of that stupidity. Shaolin Monks GROW up molding their bodies to this stuff.

I wish i was a MoNk :juji:

[Graber]

Genetics sucks lol. Everybody wants SPAGAT!

[shengoikee]

SPAGAT!

:good:

[AJCN]

Ok... Stretching thread, check! Gaber, check! OK. Predictable.

[Graber]

I had a classmate who could do a Side Split and he was telling me that he didnt even need to train for it, if it is true I feel like is not fair most, of the ppl will have to train hard for Side Split...
O and a guy in here was teling about Front Split and Side Split test that he passed it ... if u dont pass them I think u are a mokey how idiot can u be 2 not pass them, they are there to motivate ppl to give hopes to create opportunities not 2 decive.
Anyway if u pass those tests u must ge good, unhuman...

[crazykorean]

Improve joint mobility???

thats a new one. i think if you stretch TOO much it can be bad...start tearing the tendons and cartilage... ).) im an example of that stupidity. Shaolin Monks GROW up molding their bodies to this stuff.

I wish i was a MoNk :juji:

actually...regardless BAD or...not...

O.o I do remember accomplishing the side splits at the cost of hearing my hip s click in detachment.

[Jimnast]

Ask a specialist, a doctor or someone like that.

[crazykorean]

Ask a specialist, a doctor or someone like that.

lol it was like age 14 it happened...its healed now.

[Jimnast]

lol it was like age 14 it happened...its healed now.

I mean to find out if your incapability to do the splits is related to unfortunate genetic hip alignment or something else.

[crazykorean]

I mean to find out if your incapability to do the splits is related to unfortunate genetic hip alignment or something else.

oh...

yeah already check up on that one...im screwed for life. but it does help me in sparring cause i kick alot faster and harder.

[flipster]

I had a classmate who could do a Side Split and he was telling me that he didnt even need to train for it, if it is true I feel like is not fair most, of the ppl will have to train hard for Side Split...
O and a guy in here was teling about Front Split and Side Split test that he passed it ... if u dont pass them I think u are a mokey how idiot can u be 2 not pass them, they are there to motivate ppl to give hopes to create opportunities not 2 decive.
Anyway if u pass those tests u must ge good, unhuman...

shut the fuck up you piece of shit

I said i didn't pass them, which is purely a matter of genetics, joint mobility etc. Don't ever call me an idiot again or I'll stretch your fucking anus so I can put your head in it, see how you like that for a stretch.

[frozenpeon]

I had a classmate who could do a Side Split and he was telling me that he didnt even need to train for it, if it is true I feel like is not fair most, of the ppl will have to train hard for Side Split...
O and a guy in here was teling about Front Split and Side Split test that he passed it ... if u dont pass them I think u are a mokey how idiot can u be 2 not pass them, they are there to motivate ppl to give hopes to create opportunities not 2 decive.
Anyway if u pass those tests u must ge good, unhuman...

It looks like a tradition to split in Romania.

[Papa Lazarou]

Having a bone structure that prevents the splits is rare - you should check alignment issues and so on before you assume that's the problem.

Can you feel a stretch in your adductors in any other position?

[Ashtar]

Some people are born with more pliable ligaments and perhaps an inclination to have muscles that relax more easily.

Some others are born with bone abnormalities that restrict motion, hypertension, etc.

A large problem is that it is easily to diagnose ourselves or others to come up with excuses or reasons. It's hard to figure out what the mean is.

[short gorilla]

Have you done the split test before? What's your foot position like? Maybe if you just altered your foot angle you'd be able to stretch into it better.

[crazykorean]

Have you done the split test before? What's your foot position like? Maybe if you just altered your foot angle you'd be able to stretch into it better.

Ehhh..Im not really an amatuer in stretching OR martial arts...15 years says so.....

doesnt matter how my toes are placed...I dont get to the full side splits.
period

[Teufel]

I had a classmate who could do a Side Split and he was telling me that he didnt even need to train for it, if it is true I feel like is not fair most, of the ppl will have to train hard for Side Split...
O and a guy in here was teling about Front Split and Side Split test that he passed it ... if u dont pass them I think u are a mokey how idiot can u be 2 not pass them, they are there to motivate ppl to give hopes to create opportunities not 2 decive.
Anyway if u pass those tests u must ge good, unhuman...

WTF hahaha

[crazykorean]

WTF hahaha

This SPLIT test is gay anyway....

[simba_25]

The split tests are gay, they mean nothing

[kevinhimself]

Doesn't your hip alignment change during puberty??

[crazykorean]

Doesn't your hip alignment change during puberty??

........im not a girl

[Peleke]

Haha.

If I remember correctly, I failed both tests, but I can do both splits. :eh:

Come to think of it, I 'took' those 'tests' two years ago, when I was a fat, stupid and socially awkward little thing, so I probably did them wrong. Meh...

[Martialartsguyfl]

some people are just naturally more limber than others, I personally am the most stiff person naturally but over time i can do splits all directions just keep at it, it will take a little longer.

[crazykorean]

some people are just naturally more limber than others, I personally am the most stiff person naturally but over time i can do splits all directions just keep at it, it will take a little longer.

...behhh....

I don't get a stretch...period..

its my joints that HURT if i go to far...like their about to pop out...and they have clicked a few times only in after affects of RITHING in pain.

its genetics....

[Skilzat85X]

That...and poor conditioning.

[CusTuM]

I have a myriad of hip problems, including the one you've described. If it makes you feel any better, I have not found a solution.

[crazykorean]

......some of you dont get it...its genetics...

Im conditioned and NATURAL at stretching.

www.myspace.com/rexkwondo_usa

check my pics.

[Ashtar]

This SPLIT test is gay anyway....
The split tests are gay, they mean nothing
This is true.
........im not a girl
Men's hip alignment might change too, even if not as drastically.
some people are just naturally more limber than others, I personally am the most stiff person naturally but over time i can do splits all directions just keep at it, it will take a little longer.
More pointed words than 'natural' should be used. We are discussing genes. When you discuss things people are more prone to generally, it can still be part of their lifestyle, diet, or emotions.

[Birch]

Ive been able to do the splits since i was born. Never trained for them.

[crazykorean]

That...and poor conditioning.

why do you insist I was poorly conditioned?

have you EVER THOUGHT about reading that I didn't get a stretch? I could do the COLD frontal splits...both sides and also vertical axe kicks. And i was 1 inch from the ground doing side splits. with my back/neck straight and legs straight without my ass sticking out.

it was my hip joints jackass.

[Sleepy]

why do you insist I was poorly conditioned?

have you EVER THOUGHT about reading that I didn't get a stretch? I could do the COLD frontal splits...both sides and also vertical axe kicks. And i was 1 inch from the ground doing side splits. with my back/neck straight and legs straight without my ass sticking out.

it was my hip joints jackass.

Stop blaming your fat-ass lame flexibility on genetics. You fail.

[Dingo]

I remember in Kurz's book that people can have poor muscle flexibility and loose ligaments or good muscle flexibility and tigh ligaments. Genetics does play a part in flexibility, but can be overcome with constant stretching. The human body can adapt to many things, so just give it time.

[Papa Lazarou]

crazykorean

You asked for advice, so I don't know what you're expecting. Conditioning is the only thing that could possibly work, unless you want surgery or something.

Can you feel any adductor stretch in any position?

[CusTuM]

I remember in Kurz's book that people can have poor muscle flexibility and loose ligaments or good muscle flexibility and tigh ligaments. Genetics does play a part in flexibility, but can be overcome with constant stretching. The human body can adapt to many things, so just give it time.

Hez talking about potential issues with his hip's skeletal structure for fuck sake, i.e. skeletal genetics or something. Jesus christ, read.

[Ashtar]

Ive been able to do the splits since i was born. Never trained for them.
Well, babies seem to be pretty flexible. So long as you maintained doing them from then I guess you wouldn't have to 'train', although in a way, doing them is the same as maintenance training.

Stop blaming your fat-ass lame flexibility on genetics. You fail.
There are fat contortionists and thin people lacking flexilibty. I admit, there's probably a trend. Fat people weigh more, and need more passive tension in their muscles to hold up their greater bodyweight, so maybe that's why they can't relax. Being uptight about your looks also interferes with the required relaxation.

[Graber]

Ive been able to do the splits since i was born. Never trained for them.

WHAT? are u crazy? maybe I will come(CUM) for your dirty ass someday, where do u live?...

[crazykorean]

why do you all think im FAT?

most i've ever weighed is 140lbs at 5'5" and least was 113lbs.

ehhh my abductors get stretch in the cold....but after warming up running, kicking, stretching..I don't get any stretch anywhere...i'll be 1 inch from the splits.

i genetics ass munches

[Papa Lazarou]

I don't get any stretch anywhere

Wow. Forget the splits in that case!!

It does sound like it's genetic after all. Maybe it could still be an alignment thing but I doubt that a bit now.

[Kou]

It's true that some people are more gifted to be able to achieve flexibility easier than others but most of it is entirely your own doing. If you don't properly stretch before and after everytime you do a strength resistance training system, or worse if you aren't athletic at all, you will NEVER get a split let alone decent flexibility. No one is born with a split. They just decided to try splits early, when it was easiest to gain it, after realizing they can do something that no one can do, they show it off. Common kid thing to do (I know I did).

This "showing off" was actually keeping the flexibility. Everytime I showed off my splits or arm contortions to my friends, I was unknowingly stretching and retaining my flexibility. By the time I joined Taekwondo I was in a perfect position to advance my flexibility even further without as much hinderous or disappointment as most people who first enter a martial art or other flexible activities.

Yes, even those with amazing splits and flexibility can and WILL loose it if they don't keep it up. For a while I was continuously told I was born with awesome flexibility and it made me feel like I could automatically fall into split whenever the hell I felt like it. I was VERY wrong. After not stretching for a while, I had lost it! I was a good few inches off the ground even after warming up. Now after continuous training and discipline I regained my split and desired flexibility, but I'm not stopping there, no one should. Aim higher, deeper, get most out of your stretch no matter how flexible you are (or people say you are). you can always get better (unless you're labeled an official contortionist, then you're overstepping the boundries of the human body) but still, I know I can always go more. I stretch and practice splits and dynamic stretches when I wake up, before training, after training, in the shower, and before I go to sleep. Each time I do not go lax on my stretches. People may look at you or me and say we make it look easy, but that's only looks. I am trying my very best to get deeper in my splits every time I stretch.

You should too

[Sleepy]

...

Good post.

[Ashtar]

I'm actually pretty sure everyone IS born with the splits, it's just they don't do them because being instinctive mammals we see no purpose to it. As we grow, our muscles tense from repetetive purposeful activities and we become less flexible.

[windowmaker]

I'm actually pretty sure everyone IS born with the splits, it's just they don't do them because being instinctive mammals we see no purpose to it. As we grow, our muscles tense from repetetive purposeful activities and we become less flexible.

Next time I see a baby I'm gonna test your theory by grabbing it and then forcing it into splits. If it doesn't work then at least I caused it some pain (I hate kids).

[Ashtar]

You're my hero dude. But anyway, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence. Next time your viewing pleasure is interrupted by some annoying diaper commercial, just look, they lie in the splits and shit all the time.

Or, just look at the world's fattest man, he lives in Mexico. He lives like a baby, with a diaper, in his own feces. He's fat, unathletic, catered do, and does nothing. 1000+ lbs. Yet he has the splits.

[windowmaker]

Do babies also have titanium ankles?

[Ashtar]

Hell yeah, although they have weak bones.

[Valen]

sick 0.o!!!!!!

[Graber]

I dont know, I like the title Genetic Sucks Splits.