"Burn outs"

[Teufel]

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[Honken]

Strength-endurance.

[Rahf]

Sounds like a merged pyramidset. Tell them to do giant dropsets if they want a real "burn-out". Curl until they can't curl anymore, drop 5lbs and then keep on going until you've dropped down about 5-6 steps. I reckon that'll get the pump going. Still sounds pretty meaningless.

[Honken]

I bet they've all been working out for like 1 month, then got a brilliant idea how to make them break through their giant plateau.

[Final Prophecy]

I've honestly never heard of those "burn-outs" before. Do they work at all?

[chicanerous]

I've honestly never heard of those "burn-outs" before. Do they work at all?
Yes, they are the long lost secret to progress. They were only rediscovered a few years ago described in the scrolls of a remote Tibetan monastery.

[compleks]

Shit, I better get on them. Especially for my bicep and chest days (all weekdays).

[shengoikee]

i'm one of the illuminati (etc)

[Ashtar]

Yep definately a pyramid, that and dropsets (last half of the pyramid, max lifts not compromised by tiredness from previous lifts) are cool.

[mr popular]

Do the people doing this look muscular? Are they strong?

That would really settle this discussion, now wouldn't it.

[Ashtar]

That wouldn't really settle it at all, you can be using an effective training technique but be a newbie and not see the results yet, or just not be using a program with enough effort. In a lot of cases, people can get farther using a shitty program if they're got the guts/nutrition/genes to support them, as opposed to someone using the best program ever without all that.

[Chris_K]

If they are spending that much time thinking about bicep workouts, then they are only lifting for looks... which means they're shit.

[Kitosho]

hey guys its bench day



bench n' bis


gonna take two scoops of no xplode today really gonna pump it out man

[mr popular]

And why do you weightlift Chris K? Are you some kind of athlete?
And why does someone practicing resistance training for aesthetic benefits make them shit? Could you explain that logically?

Also... shut the fuck up Ashtar.

[shengoikee]

lifting for aesthetics makes you a studio gangsta lollll

but seriously, people usually lift weights for more reason than that....

[Yuri]

hey guys its bench day



bench n' bis


gonna take two scoops of no xplode today really gonna pump it out man

aaahhhhh, this makes me so angry. everytime i go to the rec at my uni its overcrowded with douchebags doing nothing but bicep curls. it makes me very angry and i end up doing more sets instead of resting in between sets

thats why i'm a college athlete so i get access to a fancy non-crowded weight room

[Rahf]

aaahhhhh, this makes me so angry. everytime i go to the rec at my uni its overcrowded with douchebags doing nothing but bicep curls. it makes me very angry and i end up doing more sets instead of resting in between sets

thats why i'm a college athlete so i get access to a fancy non-crowded weight room

Very common around here as well. I love the extra swing they use when they decide to go heavy.

[-Pat-]

My favourite is when they do preacher curls and have their spotters help them with every single rep.

[compleks]

You guys pay too much attention to what other people do in the gym.

[Rahf]

You guys pay too much attention to what other people do in the gym.

You know you'd be a liar if you claimed you hadn't seen similar behaviours. It does catch the eye when I'm resting and somewhere in my peripheral view, there is someone small in enormous GASP clothing that swings 40lbs dumbbells.

[Honken]

...there is someone small in enormous GASP clothing that swings 40lbs dumbbells.

Hahahahahaha I know the feeling.

[anfeyd]

You guys pay too much attention to what other people do in the gym.

Whenever people do curls in the squat rack and never break their elbow past 45 degrees, there is no way to ignore that.

[frika]

I do weights at a rec center in Toronto in little Portugal. It's amazing and cheap... like 10 bucks a month and has everything one could ever need.

It is so massively overpopulated by these arrogant portugese dudes that come in groups of like 10 and just do bicep curls all day.

They're all fat fucks and generally just talk on their phones and yell while at the gym.

Can you imagine going to the gym with like 10 people just to work your biceps? And as usual they're curling huge amounts but cheating so fucking severely it makes me want to barf. BARF BARF BARF.

[Sam H]

Whenever people do curls in the squat rack and never break their elbow past 45 degrees, there is no way to ignore that.

Haha, isn't that just jerking the weight back and forth?

[Teufel]

It's pathetic watching people swing 35lb dumbbells at 1/2 range of motion.. and 90% of my weight training class consists of those people

[JacktheHero]

Here in Austria, most people train only for looks and a little improved strength (prolly to beat up others). We (athletes) train to get stronger, and we know that our muscles will look good eventually. that's the difference.

[TKD_Andy]

a guy in my gym came up to me and asked if one of the ingredients in my protein was creatine.

this is the level of sophistication of the average noob in the gym today.

[mr popular]

Commercial gyms make a lot of money off of those types of people. Ever notice how the gym is much more crowded on Monday than it is on Friday or Saturday?

But like Compleks stated, you people seem to paying way too much attention to what others are doing.

The only thing that I've noticed in my gym that really irritates me sometimes, is when I see very skinny, very weak guys trying to throw their knowledge around and tell everyone what they're doing wrong, or when women are taking up space doing bullshit toning exercise.

[Teufel]

Commercial gyms make a lot of money off of those types of people. Ever notice how the gym is much more crowded on Monday than it is on Friday or Saturday?

But like Compleks stated, you people seem to paying way too much attention to what others are doing.

The only thing that I've noticed in my gym that really irritates me sometimes, is when I see very skinny, very weak guys trying to throw their knowledge around and tell everyone what they're doing wrong, or when women are taking up space doing bullshit toning exercise.

Jesus, you pay that much attention to other people? Man you must be a real homo

[mr popular]

My point was that the things that irritate me are the things that DIRECTLY EFFECT ME in the gym, such as some 145lber coming up to me and telling me how to squat, or some woman using up two benches so she can do a million repititions of bench dips when it's already overcrowded.

Not watching what other people are doing and criticizing them.

Also: suck my dick.

[Teufel]

My point was that the things that irritate me are the things that DIRECTLY EFFECT ME in the gym, such as some 145lber coming up to me and telling me how to squat, or some woman using up two benches so she can do a million repititions of bench dips when it's already overcrowded.

Not watching what other people are doing and criticizing them.

Also: suck my dick.

Wow, calm down. And as Rahf said earlier in the thread, you'd be a liar if you said that you haven't seen and laughed at similiar behaviors to what has been mentioned in this thread.

By the way I was just kidding in my other post, because you said we pay too much attention to other people and in the same post shared what annoys you. Apparently it offended you though.

[mr popular]

The only problem here is that my shlong is still dry.

start suckin.

[Final Prophecy]

You are either extremely focused or just blind if you dont notice what other people are doing. You might as well put a neon, flashing sign over the head of some kid whos swinging up 35 lbs, using more of his lower back to curl the dumbell that his biceps, its the kind of thing that screams out at you. But give them a few weeks, they'll be complaining of tendon problems near their bicep or even have a slipped disk from using their lower back to swing up their curl. I can only do 27.5 lbs when I do my curls (usually 4x8 or 5x8 --- sets x reps), but I make damn sure every single one of those reps are clean and are done properly.

Luckily I can lift at my school, but I have to go in the mornings because after school its like a damn chat room

[mr popular]

hahahahahahahaha

[Ashtar]

If people are using their backs for curls, so long as they're not hurting themselves there's no major problem with it. So they might still call it a curl and not recognize it as a 'clean' or whatever, but if they're lifting heavier weights, it's cool. What would you rather see, a strict curl of a 20lb barbell, or a cheat curl with a 100lb barbell? Yeah, you can get lower back problems, but you can get that doing back exercises too. Yeah, you can get tendon problems, but you can do that lifting weight strictly as well (seems to be a problem with 1-arm chinners, the inflamation)
If they are spending that much time thinking about bicep workouts, then they are only lifting for looks... which means they're shit.
Lifting for looks doesn't make you shit, nor does it make your program shit. It doesn't sound like they're spending a lot of time thinking about bicep workouts, they're just using a kind of lifting for it. Doing biceps work isn't exactly bad, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers do em.

I don't think it's bad to have assistance so long as it is only with the concentric part and not the eccentric part.

[Gusch]

do you actually read what you're typing, Ashtar?
I guess not, otherwise you wouldn't post.








And let me assure you, that a biceps curl, in which you use your back, is not a clean.

[-Pat-]

If idiocy was cool, Ashtar would be the Fonz.

[short gorilla]

http://www.trygve.com/beanie_biceps_secret.jpg

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/clinicalmed/upper-biceps-rupture.JPG

[Teufel]

Ashtar: Never post anything, ever again

[compleks]

Those pictures are disturbing.

[short gorilla]

http://estb.msn.com/i/6B/917B20A6BE353420124115B1A511C7.jpg

http://www.trygve.com/beanie_biceps_on.jpg

[Yuri]

http://estb.msn.com/i/6B/917B20A6BE353420124115B1A511C7.jpg



is that greg valentino? Biggest arms in the world. i only mention this because his right bicep is much smaller than his left, and valentino had an incident with one of his biceps as a result of too much juicing

i saw him at the arnold, he's pretty short, but very wide. it looks like there are few doorways he would fit into

[compleks]

Yes, that's Greg.

[Rahf]

is that greg valentino? Biggest arms in the world. i only mention this because his right bicep is much smaller than his left, and valentino had an incident with one of his biceps as a result of too much juicing

i saw him at the arnold, he's pretty short, but very wide. it looks like there are few doorways he would fit into

Synthol. The messed up biceps came from dirty needles.

[[RozoN]]

I use to start at the highest weight and to as may reps until I can't do anymore...then drop down about 2 or 1 kg and continue to until I can't do anymore reps. Then drop down another 2 kg and continue like that until I'm on the lightest weight...This is actually very beneficial, since it's puts your muscles under great stress. OH! and there's no breaks between the sets... There's a lot about it in "How to gain muscle mass fast"...I'd write more when I get home

Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to mention, that I don't really lift that much...I kinda compensate for when I can't trick or when I'm bored or hyped, so I don't really know much about lifting:tongue:

[JacktheHero]

lol even the body builders hate him

[[RozoN]]

Definition of burnouts from "The Secret to gain muscle mass - fast!":

Strip Sets:

To do strip sets you start using heavy weight, then after your muscles fail at that weight, you immediately lower the weight and continue to do reps until your muscles fail again. Then you lower the weight and continue, without resting. You will keep lowering the weight until you run out of weight. This is one of my favorite techniques for working my calves. I also use it as a final exercise to blast my biceps. I sometimes refer to these as burnouts or drop sets. It's like one long set where you keep reducing the weight until you just can't do any more reps. I also do these going from light to heavy to light.

[Rahf]

In other words, strip sets = drop sets.

[TKDGene]

all that is great as a "shock" for the muscles and i dont know of anyone that does it on daily basis. Althou drop sets are really great for the trisepts once in a while, i love the feeling personally.

[mr popular]

Some people base entire routines (meaning, every workout, almost every exercise if not all) around "shocking" methods, including drop sets. All of them could be considered a "burn out".

It works for some, particularly when they are consuming massive amounts of calories.

I normally include 1 or 2 drop sets for every weight training workout I do. (And I normally do 6 per week)

[Ashtar]

let me assure you, that a biceps curl, in which you use your back, is not a clean.You're right, that's more hips and toes and traps isn't it? Since I don't do them, the imagery gets confused.