Russian Kettlebell Workout

[WayofaWay]

So, I have been a bit of a stregnth addict for a while now... and lately I have started trying out some Kettlebell lifting. (It looks like a cannonball with a handle) Has anyone else here tried them?

(FYI: I don't care about spelling, grammar, or whatever else you can nit pick. Just looking for some new ideas.)

[Counterfeit Soda]

Kettlebells can be kind of a fun change every once in a while, but they're very over-rated.

[mr popular]

kettlebell=strength

[Honken]

If you've got more strength than a regular average joe, kettlebells are endurance tools.

[Skilzat85X]

I don't get why people think an object being in a slightly different shape would make a huge difference lol...

[Steve]

They're like dumbbells, only they come in 3 different weights rather than everything up to 300 pounds

[Final Prophecy]

They're like dumbbells, only they come in 3 different weights rather than everything up to 300 pounds

3? What are you talking about? The set I worked with had 8kg 12kg 16kg, 28kg and 35kg. They also go up even more to like 53kg and stuff but the guy didnt bring the heavier kettlebells.

I don't get why people think an object being in a slightly different shape would make a huge difference lol...

The application of the lifts are different. Doing a clean to a catch with a kettlebell is similar to that of an olympic bar but its finished differently.

Kettlebells can be kind of a fun change every once in a while, but they're very over-rated.

Exactly.

[Steve]

3? What are you talking about? The set I worked with had 8kg 12kg 16kg, 28kg and 35kg. They also go up even more to like 53kg and stuff but the guy didnt bring the heavier kettlebells.

That's an average increment of like 5-6 kg, which is 12 pounds, compared to dumbbells which typically come in 5 pound increments at most, so basically I'm still correct.

[Wesker]

kettlebells is a fad

[mr popular]

What is the point in doing cleans with a kettlebell....?

[compleks]

What is the point in doing cleans with a barbell....?

[mr popular]

To train for your sport, if you are a weightlifter, or to increase your explosive power for whatever athletic desire you have.

But with kettlebells, the movement doesn't directly translate to the barbell squat clean and you can't use half as much weight as you could with a barbell.

Plus you'll look ridiculous.

[compleks]

What if your sport isn't weightlifting, and you don't want the lift to translate to any other bar lifting movements?

It's not always about the weight being moved, either. I agree that normal barbell cleans should be prioritised when training for explosive strength, but kettlebells do offer variety which can have it's own benefits.
I think various athletes (fighters in particular) have taken a liking to kettlebells because they do offer a variety of lifts which can better translate to their sport.

[mr popular]

How so?

[Lobo]

I have some kettlebells kicking around. I barely see any use for them really, and haven't picked one up in maybe 2 1/2 years.

[compleks]

How so?
It's not even the kettlebell, per se. I don't really consider them to be any different to a dumbbell, or offering any benefits that couldn't be attained by using a dumbbell.

Unilateral work (whether it's cleans, snatches, etc...) can often be extremely useful to athletes.

I don't really care enough to defend kettlebells, as I think they are overrated and have never personally used one.
If, however, I had access to them, then I would probably find a use for them (other than acting as a door stop).

[mr popular]

a kettlebell would make an awsome cock piercing.

[Steve]

I would only use a kettlebell as a projectile weapon really

[shengoikee]

a kettlebell would make an awsome cock piercing.

HAHAHAHA!!

[Lobo]

I mainly just threw them around in a field, along with my some old triangular iron weights I also own.

[shengoikee]

i once read an article on a guy who was in prison who once threw a fridge up some stairs at his prison guards.

apparently true haha

[Final Prophecy]

What is the point in doing cleans with a kettlebell....?

What is the point in doing cleans with a barbell....?

To train for your sport, if you are a weightlifter, or to increase your explosive power for whatever athletic desire you have.

But with kettlebells, the movement doesn't directly translate to the barbell squat clean and you can't use half as much weight as you could with a barbell.


From what I heard, kettlebell cleans strengthen your *joints* more than the actual muscles than barbells which work your muscles more.

[Steve]

uhhh

[WayofaWay]

200lb Kettlebell C&J

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvEaGkC9MA

Don't know about you guys... but that is strong.

[compleks]

I really doubt that was 200lbs.

[WayofaWay]

i was thinking that too... however, it is big enough to be... and i have seen some strong guys through 200 around like a toy.

[compleks]

It didn't look nearly big enough to be 200lbs (but I could, and probably am, wrong).

[WayofaWay]

Since they are basically spherical they are deceptively small.

In the week I have had mine all of my lifts have gone up tremendous amouts.

[Steve]

That thing would have to be pure lead to be 200 pounds, haha.

[Gusch]

Since they are basically spherical they are deceptively small.

In the week I have had mine all of my lifts have gone up tremendous amouts.

Why would your lifts go up tremendously by using kettlebells?
This video doesn't show anything that you couldn't do with dumbbells.
Plus shitty form at the clean (imo).

[Final Prophecy]

It didn't look nearly big enough to be 200lbs (but I could, and probably am, wrong).

Its cast iron.

[WayofaWay]

Cast iron isn't light...

It was shitty form... but none of us could do it.

They are a completely different angle than a dumbell, causing the rack to be more like a boxing body guard, and the press is done differently... not to mention, dumbells are kinda lame. I may be alone in thinking that thought though.

[Final Prophecy]

Yeah when you rack a kettlebell it rests against your forearm.

I dunno I personally like the dumbell bench press (if thats what your talking about).

[WayofaWay]

Oh, my bad... military press... and yes the dumbell bench is a good excercise.

I found after a few years of dumbell exclusive training... nothing beat the raw power of a barbell for benching.

[Ashtar]

I want to buy them some day but they're damned expensive.

[Hume]

So, I have been a bit of a stregnth addict for a while now... and lately I have started trying out some Kettlebell lifting. (It looks like a cannonball with a handle) Has anyone else here tried them?

(FYI: I don't care about spelling, grammar, or whatever else you can nit pick. Just looking for some new ideas.)

I used kettlebells when I was younger, they are very good for endurance. Be aware though, watch youre posture or you can develop a sideways kink in youre spine, I forgot what it was called but I think they test teenagers for it in highschool every few years.

[Jujl]

Kettleballs are the standard passtime of russian preists

http://www.functionalhandstrength.com/images/fr_john_peck_iron_mind_gripper_1.jpg

[Ashtar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NLKw4Saiko 105lb snatch. Heaviest kettlebell I ever heard of.

If you've got more strength than a regular average joe, kettlebells are endurance tools.In the previous case, much more strength.

i once read an article on a guy who was in prison who once threw a fridge up some stairs at his prison guards. apparently true hahaWas it a mini-fridge?

From what I heard, kettlebell cleans strengthen your *joints* more than the actual muscles than barbells which work your muscles more.It's interesting to hear, but is there substance behind the rumour? What strengthens a joint besides strenghthening the tendons that cross it? What strengthens a tendon more than a muscle? Maybe a more ballistic nature? Sonnon goes into how kettlbells will put on a traction force moreso than dumbbells (and his expensive clubs moreso than kettles) and how this is good for the arms or something. Been meaning to ask him how to get similar leg benefits.

[Dr.Freud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NLKw4Saiko 105lb snatch. Heaviest kettlebell I ever heard of.


Nein, Hillary clinton has a bigger snatch.

[Scott]

Plus comme 105 lb swing

[Final Prophecy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NLKw4Saiko 105lb snatch. Heaviest kettlebell I ever heard of.

In the previous case, much more strength.

Was it a mini-fridge?

It's interesting to hear, but is there substance behind the rumour? What strengthens a joint besides strenghthening the tendons that cross it? What strengthens a tendon more than a muscle? Maybe a more ballistic nature? Sonnon goes into how kettlbells will put on a traction force moreso than dumbbells (and his expensive clubs moreso than kettles) and how this is good for the arms or something. Been meaning to ask him how to get similar leg benefits.

Good question, honestly I wish I knew. I was just told this from a friend who uses them frequently.

[Gusch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NLKw4Saiko 105lb snatch. Heaviest kettlebell I ever heard of.


Answer:
Plus comme 105 lb swing


Case closed.
He doesn't even start his first rep from the ground or from a static position without much momentum.
It's a swing and not a snatch.

[Scott]

BUT HE HAS MUTANT STRENGTH!


Good luck to him trying to start a barbell snatch from behind his ass like that.

[Ashtar]

I suppose, it's still interesting to learn though.

[receive]

He doesn't even start his first rep from the ground or from a static position without much momentum.
It's a swing and not a snatch.

A swing doesn't include locking the bell out over head. That would definately be called a snatch by any KB authority
Look at KB "snatch" in GS:
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Anyway the name is irrelevant - he did what he did, and I think its pretty strong whatever you call it.

[Gusch]

No, it's not a snatch. I don't care what any "KB authority" says.
I can't take someone seriously who only trains with kettlebells, because he thinks that they're so awesome and special, anyway.

Look at that video: where is that an explosive motion? No matter how I look at it, it's a KB swing over the head. Nothing more. And let me assure you that I have seen explosive one arm snatches. They look different.

[anfeyd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRrlvy_7kM

[receive]

No, it's not a snatch. I don't care what any "KB authority" says.


Ok dude, you can keep calling it a "swing over the head", while everyone else can call it by its accepted name which is a "snatch". Who gives a shit if its not exactly like a barbell snatch but with a KB? Call it a "Kettlebell snatch" if you want to differentiate between them.

Its pretty retarded to refuse to accept the name simply because the motion is not identical to the kind of snatch you were first exposed to. Imagine some old KB dude watching the olympics and trying to convince people that actually the barbell "snatch" is NOT a "snatch" and should be called a "wide-grip deadlift to overhead".

[Kon-El]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKayOU8tik
I think its things like this that make kettlebells useless imo, the move is not at all different than that with dumbells or a bar, and its no longer a matter of power/explosiveness which people claim kb are for, its endurance. Thats not to say that what he did is easy though (assuming its a decent weight). anyone actually heard of such competitions? (or perhaps its just some record he trying to break)

[receive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKayOU8tik
I think its things like this that make kettlebells useless imo,

> the move is not at all different than that with dumbells or a bar
> and its no longer a matter of power/explosiveness which people claim kb are for, its endurance.
> anyone actually heard of such competitions? (or perhaps its just some record he trying to break)

> You think so? It looks different to me. Any analogous lifts done with different implements is going to be slightly different. Anyway, what does that matter?

> I don't think anyone would say that "KB's are for power/explosiveness". I've certainly never seen that view argued. In fact they're largely promoted for high-rep applications.
Let's imagine someone HAD made the strange claim that you suggested - in that case that's gayness from them and not from the kind of weight (a KB) they're lifting.

> Its called girevoy sport. Check out the video I posted a few posts above.

[Scott]

*guzzles NO-Xplode*

I still don't think the kettlebell swinging thing looks like a snatch.

THAT BEING SAID, I'd like to try it out, I think it would get a good burn in my traps and shoulders.

[compleks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRrlvy_7kM

Haha, that's amazing.

[Ryu Sujin]

Haha dang Anfeyd that's an awesome vid : D

[Scott]

There used to be a video of some discus thrower 1 arm barbell snatching 190. He put his hand on the floor momentarily to stabilize, but it was still badass.

[anfeyd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCKuLT9wqP8

[Skilzat85X]

Daaaaang that was awesome haha.

[Kon-El]

> You think so? It looks different to me. Any analogous lifts done with different implements is going to be slightly different. Anyway, what does that matter?

> I don't think anyone would say that "KB's are for power/explosiveness". I've certainly never seen that view argued. In fact they're largely promoted for high-rep applications.
Let's imagine someone HAD made the strange claim that you suggested - in that case that's gayness from them and not from the kind of weight (a KB) they're lifting.

> Its called girevoy sport. Check out the video I posted a few posts above.
Fair enough. must've been some bs tagline i read on the net somewhere about kettlebells.

And yes the one arm olympic snatch is completely ridic.

[chicanerous]

This thread is retarded. It was somewhat saved by the inclusion of some actual one-armed barbell snatching.