If you cant...

[dpitlock]

throw an amazing 540 stop trying double corks.:dead:

[Jon P]

Unfortunately, this will never happen haha.

[dpitlock]

I wish you were wrong, but your not.

[Jon P]

So do I =[

[DYoo]

so do.

[Thorap]

True! Really sad to see all those who just focus on doing there first F class trick instead of training their basic to perfection!

[jan]

Yep, it sucks.

[*<User Name]

"an" instead of "a" before words beginning with vowels :)

[Kyle McLean]

i agree. makes me sad to see people throwing huge twists and shitty 540s

[Bertie]

lol :)

[shengoikee]

being able to do a decent double cork and a crap 540 doesn't make sense to me at all! haha

it's witchcraft

[*<User Name]

It's just what you drill, i can see it being easily distracting if you're close to double corks. Look at Alpha7158, he basically lost his c720 because he was constantly chasing double cork

[pete_man_man]

i have thrown a total of 2 double corks in my time. it distracts me not

[keven]

you people are right. But everyone strives to get what he wants badly, and if a double cork is what someone wants, you shouldn't keep them from trying

[dpitlock]

People think that if you can double cork, that is whats going to make your sampler amazing. Id rather see double btwists then corks.

[Scooba Dave]

simon comes to mind. but hes a better kicker now

[tracekillz]

People think that if you can double cork, that is whats going to make your sampler amazing. Id rather see double btwists then corks.

i agree. you see alot of people chucking double corks..not as many doing double btwists..and even less doing double atwists.

its nice to have at least one big trick in your repertoire...but sexy to see it linked with good kicks.

ex. doublecork > hook > btwist round > hook > cheat 720 kick.

or even hook > 540 > c720 kick > sweep 2 scoot > cork

kicks are more impressive than doubles in my eyes...because its so particular and tedious. people can work on kicks for years, perfecting every aspect of them. throwing it into a spin or twist makes it that much harder.

my kicks arent gold or anything...but they're definately the backbone to how far you can progress in the aspect of tricking.

[dpitlock]

Atleast work on... cheat 1080 twists or something. If you have this crazy urge that you need to twist.

[TKD_Andy]

people who can doublecork but not 540 are just twisters, not trickers.

[dpitlock]

I would like to thank people that can double cork real well and do kicks such as mike maguire and teddy

[jiayo-chris]

It can get very anoying seeing shitty 540's and cheat 720's then seeing a double cork.

[Less than Dan]

Atleast work on... cheat 1080 twists or something. If you have this crazy urge that you need to twist.

:agony: They're hard.

[*<User Name]

Have you tried those Dan? Or hyperC720twists?

[tracekillz]

Have you tried those Dan? Or hyperC720twists?

maybe more :shocked: :owned: he spins like a beast with those things

[dpitlock]

ive done it with a hook like twice

[Less than Dan]

Have you tried those Dan? Or hyperC720twists?

maybe more :shocked: :owned: he spins like a beast with those things

:wonder: Heheheh. Hypering it isn't much of a problem anymore.

I've been working on it, Trace. Soon enough, I suppose :) I'm still going with the hook, I'm too retarded with a run up.

[Martialartsguyfl]

People think that if you can double cork, that is whats going to make your sampler amazing. Id rather see double btwists then corks.

the fact is, the sampler can suck as long as it has a double cork, itll get about 30 favorites on youtube.

lol, and double btwists are way easier for me i wish i could double cork like that =S

[Rudy]

I wish you were wrong, but your not.

your your your your:tongue:


i can 540...but it's not the best..it's too open i just need to fix that..but i'm a spin trickster so spinning comes naturally to me and kicks i have to work for. I agree that people should learn basics first but do as i say not as i do...

[TKD Tim]

My 540 is amazing, not really any way to improve it except to go higher, though it's plenty high now.

I can't even gainer flash.

I guess this stems from 6 years of TKD.

[Less than Dan]

There aren't enough people who cheat720twist, I think. It's amazing for combos, and the takeoff with a hook is smooth and very flowing.

[k-slash]

Tho you guys are right.

I like how your neglecting the fact that tricking is about personal prefrence. And that people do spend the time and effort training corks to be able to double cork, and if they want to learn that before they have a sick 540, then it`s upto them So they don`t have to trick to make you guys happy just because your annoyed at them learning such a hard thing first.

But I agree, strong basics first, advanced variations later.

Tho learning a cork before 540 doesn`t matter lol.

[ngswipe]

i agree. you see alot of people chucking double corks..not as many doing double btwists..and even less doing double atwists.



doublecorks are hard, doubletwists are even harder

[Less than Dan]

doublecorks are hard, doubletwists are even harder

I would heavily disagree with that one, haha :) That's my opinion, though.

Of course, I'm not particularly fond of corks.

[Skilzat85X]

Here here K-slash. :good:

Corks aren't quite my cup of tea either. I prefer b-twists too.

And Dan, I'm going to try to get my Cheat720Twist up to your level since you love to do so much fun stuff with them it seems ahah.
Did you ever loose yours?

[ngswipe]

I would heavily disagree with that one, haha :) That's my opinion, though.

Of course, I'm not particularly fond of corks.

lol ya its a matter of personal preference, but i find the set up for corks to supply a far greater amount of power than btwist setups

[Less than Dan]

Here here K-slash. :good:

Corks aren't quite my cup of tea either. I prefer b-twists too.

And Dan, I'm going to try to get my Cheat720Twist up to your level since you love to do so much fun stuff with them it seems ahah.
Did you ever loose yours?

I love them to pieces, they feel so much more natural to combo with than btwists. I'm going to be making a new tutorial for them, since my OLD one is very out of date (almost two years out of date, haha). They're harder than b-twists, of course, but as with ANY cheat move, they flow seamlessly in and out of many moves.

I lost mine A LOT. I realized that I kept losing mine because I got so used to them, I would let go of the twist too early. The cheat720twist is nerfarious for being a very unforgiving move, I think. The biggest problem people have with it, is that they don't spot their landings (once you get a good enough feeling with the b-twist and cork, for example, opening up and landing is just natural and works on its own, which is certainly not the case in cheat720twists) and they do not hold the twist long enough.

However, when I learning mine, my problem was I was throwing my knee too far out from my chest, which really kills the twist. As well, I too would let go of the twist way too early.

My advice when learning them and working on them? Make sure you have a good cheat720. Believe it or not, a good cheat720 is the key for the cheat720twist. Do a cheat720. You turn and take off, throw that knee up hard and spot a target, then you wrap over as hard as you can and then, when you see your target again, you kick the shit out of it. That's exactly what a cheat720twist is, but you're taking off horizontally, spotting a target in the air, and the kick comes out when you see the ground (and you land on that leg, of course). Same principle, and I ALWAYS do a few cheat720's before I do cheat720twists in a session, because it reminds me to throw my knee to my chest and wrap like a bitch, haha.

:)

[ngswipe]

i dunno about other ppl, but i find doin c720twists while leaning back A LOT will speed up the twist. I used to have trouble with this move becuase i consiously tried to bring my chest up for more height, but that resulted in my body being crooked and it killed off my twist. But when tried the leaning back method, i feel that my whole body is tense and straight. This made the move so much easier

[Less than Dan]

i dunno about other ppl, but i find doin c720twists while leaning back A LOT will speed up the twist. I used to have trouble with this move becuase i consiously tried to bring my chest up for more height, but that resulted in my body being crooked and it killed off my twist. But when tried the leaning back method, i feel that my whole body is tense and straight. This made the move so much easier

Well, leaning back in this move makes me feel really uncomfortable, haha. I personally think the secret of the move, as in being horizontal, is all about throwing that knee up as hard as you can and as close to your chest as possible, and digging on the take off.

[mm tacos rock]

Tho you guys are right.

I like how your neglecting the fact that tricking is about personal prefrence. And that people do spend the time and effort training corks to be able to double cork, and if they want to learn that before they have a sick 540, then it`s upto them So they don`t have to trick to make you guys happy just because your annoyed at them learning such a hard thing first.

But I agree, strong basics first, advanced variations later.

Tho learning a cork before 540 doesn`t matter lol.
I second that.

A good 540 is great. But it has little or nothing to do with people doing doublecorks. I say if they want to do doublecorks, then good! And if they can, even better! Not everyone is going to rock in every tricking category.

[ngswipe]

I second that.

A good 540 is great. But it has little or nothing to do with people doing doublecorks. I say if they want to do doublecorks, then good! And if they can, even better! Not everyone is going to rock in every tricking category.

And u have the people that can cheat1080 and doubletwist, but cannot backflip:tongue:

[Skilzat85X]

Oh whatever noone can cheat1080 and doubletwist but not back flip.

[ngswipe]

Oh whatever noone can cheat1080 and doubletwist but not back flip.

wat makes u so sure? I will prove that to u when i get a camera man

[Skilzat85X]

Ahahah. Please do,that'd be interesting.

[Victor_S]

uh... I have a friend who can doublecork, double AT, corks in a row, double full, doublelegtwist... and he barely can land a decent 540.
In the other hand, another can do cheat1080, and pretty kicks, but he crash on his standing backflip 50% of the times hahaha.

[KJER]

*amen *

[*<User Name]

Oh whatever noone can cheat1080 and doubletwist but not back flip.

well, i'm close.

[Alexx]

uh... I have a friend who can doublecork, double AT, corks in a row, double full, doublelegtwist... and he barely can land a decent 540.
In the other hand, another can do cheat1080, and pretty kicks, but he crash on his standing backflip 50% of the times hahaha.

is that link ? hehe

[cepopeye]

hahaa, i dunno... I think i have decent 540s but my other kicks suck... i make the effort pretty much equally, i think twisting and such are more fun though and yea. ummmmm doublebtwists are WAY easier than doublecork in my oppinion, they are just so natural feeling, even when you're not landing yet

[Victor_S]

is that link ? hehe

For the first one...watch this video and his account (he´s sick anyway)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRHBRGhBb4
For the kicker guy...he is the black guy here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwjMkJwxM-k