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Violent Cobra
Nov-16-07, 05:58 AM
Last Week I Started Grass Sessions Again and i have very serious problem when i trying do kick or twists or like that example:when im doing 540 i dont have height and cant jump and if i jump is dont spring and no have even little height and is hard when im doing on mats i spring me up and all okay
so plzz help me

Augenatic
Nov-16-07, 06:15 AM
Stop tricking on mats, then learn all of your basics on grass and go on from there.

Artis
Nov-16-07, 07:24 AM
Start tricking on snow.. like i do, more slips than tricks is what i get, mouth full with snow :ouch: ......... i hate winter :ogre:

Purple ZoDz
Nov-16-07, 07:25 AM
Man, wished that i culd have a varm day outside with and pwnage grass session but i can't. It's so fuckin cold outside.

Artis
Nov-16-07, 07:29 AM
Man, wished that i culd have a varm day outside with and pwnage grass session but i can't. It's so fuckin cold outside.

+1

that would be glorious

jiayo-chris
Nov-16-07, 07:42 AM
Yeah it's always cold and wet at this time of year :agony:.

Source
Nov-16-07, 08:09 AM
Goddamn I hate snow. And cold.

J-kob
Nov-16-07, 08:11 AM
yeah, fucking hate winter. It's sooooooo cold here, my ballz almost fell off today :wicked:

A_Wilhelm
Nov-16-07, 09:25 AM
Oh man are you the guy with the springmats everywhere? You better had learned your basics right when people started telling you to stop tricking on springmats.

It's like only tricking on a tramp and then wondering that it's harder on normal ground. Only much less clever/effective/professionell/(ad positive adjective here)...


Edit: On Topic: I have mixed feelings concerning winter. Most of the time it just sucks, it's cold, dark, rainy & muddy. Whats annoying me the most is the fact, that going to the shower in the morning without freezing like hell is nearly impossible.

But Snowboarding is just fantastic. Too bad that I can do it only on vacations because here are no mountains. I really need a winter on/off switch function.

Rudy
Nov-16-07, 09:27 AM
you need to trick out side more..and stop (temporarily) tricking on mats, or springfloor what ever you trick on. your body has gotten accustom to it, so it makes tricking in the grass harder. Just keep tricking in grass and all your tricks will comeback, then when you go back to mats or what ever they will be 10x better

Violent Cobra
Nov-16-07, 10:28 AM
Yes is cold outside and i almost dont tricking on mats only for hard tricks
but answer my Qusetion
i cant 540 on grass i just can jump on grass

J-kob
Nov-16-07, 10:28 AM
Oh man are you the guy with the springmats everywhere? You better had learned your basics right when people started telling you to stop tricking on springmats.

It's like only tricking on a tramp and then wondering that it's harder on normal ground. Only much less clever/effective/professionell/(ad positive adjective here)...


Edit: On Topic: I have mixed feelings concerning winter. Most of the time it just sucks, it's cold, dark, rainy & muddy. Whats annoying me the most is the fact, that going to the shower in the morning without freezing like hell is nearly impossible.

But Snowboarding is just fantastic. Too bad that I can do it only on vacations because here are no mountains. I really need a winter on/off switch function.

Haha showering in the morning fucking sucks, couldn't agree more :tongue: As for the snowboarding you're right, but if you ask me it's should be cold and snowy only in the mountains and hot and sunny down here in the valleys (you don't need winter down here, since you snowboard in the mountains :wicked: )

P.S.: I miss summer and those fucking hot bitchez in bikinis :juji:

J-kob
Nov-16-07, 10:30 AM
Yes is cold outside and i almost dont tricking on mats only for hard tricks
but answer my Qusetion
i cant 540 on grass i just can jump on grass

Maybe tricking just isn't for you :dead: Practice mate, practice...

A_Wilhelm
Nov-16-07, 10:35 AM
Haha showering in the morning fucking sucks, couldn't agree more :tongue: As for the snowboarding you're right, but if you ask me it's should be cold and snowy only in the mountains and hot and sunny down here in the valleys (you don't need winter down here, since you snowboard in the mountains :wicked: )

P.S.: I miss summer and those fucking hot bitchez in bikinis :juji:


I am totally your opinion! Geographical division seems to be the key. So lets take alle the non-needed winter from the flat areas and put it to the mountains. That way we can have summer and hot bikinibabes where we live and the opportunity to go Snowboarding, whenever we want, in all seasons.

Violent Cobra
Nov-16-07, 11:19 AM
no i think im improved in 540 becuz i jumped up from one foot it is right?

Bertie
Nov-16-07, 11:41 AM
ummm...try doing it from a hook setup....thats how I got it. But, it shouldn't make that much of a difference though. Just practice though, it'll get easier. OH! And condition your shins!

Valen
Nov-17-07, 08:49 AM
pfff.. people need to understand it.. We Cant Trick outside with this time of the year XD IT REALLY SUCKS :ogre::ogre:!!!!! I hate wet grass... I hate snow to...!! I want summer :juji::juji:

Swartz
Nov-17-07, 12:28 PM
I'm sick of all your generic advice-seeking threads Violent Cobra. You're basically saying "I can't trick. Please help me. The end."

You're ranting more than anything. No videos (which is actually good in this case from what I saw before) and no move-specific problems really. "Can't jump" isn't one, trust me. Keep practicing and shut the hell up.

A_Wilhelm
Nov-17-07, 12:33 PM
Keep practicing and shut the hell up.


Best advice Violent cobra can get!

J-kob
Nov-17-07, 02:04 PM
Keep practicing and shut the hell up.

Hahaha, sigged :tongue:

Violent Cobra
Nov-17-07, 10:19 PM
Maybe you right but is really serious cuz i cant cheat 720 and 540 like in mats i just dont given me jump in every topic you said like "you stupid" and you dont help if enybody have tips just tell me today i go to grass and i shot it ok but dude just try to help and not scream

Swartz
Nov-17-07, 11:51 PM
Damn right I'm right. Nobody is screaming at you either. This is all text here and I didn't even use caps haha. I'm simply telling you the cold hard truth. You're whining about how you can't do this or that on grass rather than mats. Why would you ask advice on something as silly as that? If you want to land a move on grass, practice it on grass. Grass is hard, it doesn't give you a rebound/bounce. Just use some common sense.

It sounds like you just realized that tricking is in fact DIFFICULT. Well no shit. Welcome to tricking. There is no easy way to learn this stuff. You just have to work on it consistently and let time transform you into someone skillful. There is only one "tip" for you: practice.

Don't accuse of me of not helping you. I did in my last post and I'm just repeating myself here because there's nothing else to be said. The advice I've given you is the only advice needed to give. You will not hear anything better from anyone. End of story.

p.s. To be honest I never thought I'd actually try to help you again after what I saw from you in the past but I'm just hoping you'll eventually become mature enough to understand what I'm getting at.

tuareg
Nov-18-07, 01:49 AM
Violent Cobra, i want you to get a lighter, doesnt matter how, and burn your matt down. Dont even think about it. Literally. Everytime you ask for advice, it always has something to do with your fucking matt. Just forget that you even had one. Its seriously for your own good.

The problem with your 540 is that you probabaly cant tornado yet. I searched your threads, and im pretty sure you cant. In order to get a much cleaner, and in this case the flow, of a 540 you must practise tornados first, get them fast and clean and then move on.

TKD_Andy
Nov-18-07, 03:02 AM
Goddamn I hate snow. And cold.

hang on, why arent you in barbados?

*edit*

hey swartz why dont you tell him to stop fucking around being a nancy boy and try doing front flips off chairs instead

A_Wilhelm
Nov-18-07, 05:19 AM
Violent Cobra, i want you to get a lighter, doesnt matter how, and burn your matt down.

Don't be so rude to the matt, it's not her fault! Matts are very usefull objects when used properly. You can sleep, dance or let little kids hop around on them, but using it as a springboard to learn 540s and 720s is just stupid.

If he would use them because he has fear to try flips etc on normal ground and wants to get used to the feeling and be sure to be landing them (without using the matt as a springboard of course) I wouldn't say anything negativ and he sure had no problems to get the moves on normal ground.

He should better burn himself instead of the poor matt.

tuareg
Nov-18-07, 05:23 AM
Yeah well, neck breaking moves can be practised on them haha, but he's better off learning 540's and 720's on grass.

Violent Cobra
Nov-18-07, 05:26 AM
i know tornado kicks you can see it on my youtube user is easy and i know how too
Now i practise on surface and it dont spring me it just dont hurt like grass I post a link to my attempts on grass and tell me what the problem

tuareg
Nov-18-07, 05:27 AM
Yeah, that would actually be easier for us too haha.

A_Wilhelm
Nov-18-07, 05:35 AM
he's better off learning 540's and 720's on grass.

of course

Melf
Nov-18-07, 06:13 AM
Now i practise on surface and it dont spring me it just dont hurt like grass


Yeah you'll really hurt yourself trying 540s on grass haha.

A_Wilhelm
Nov-18-07, 06:15 AM
You better use arm floats to prevent yourself from drowning.

TKD_Andy
Nov-18-07, 06:33 AM
get used to the grass man.

it should be grass > plyo.

If you have awesome tricks on grass, when you go onto plyo your tricks will go into orbit. Plus, you'll probably want to try new moves because your first time on plyo will make you think you're tricking on a duvet.

Violent Cobra
Nov-18-07, 07:48 AM
heres the video everybody help:
ultratrickz.ilhost.info/540session.wmv

tuareg
Nov-18-07, 08:08 AM
You seem to go to the side too much. Try to stay in one place. Make sure that your momentum is vertical and not horizontal.


And working on your tornados more wouldnt hurt either ;)

Violent Cobra
Nov-18-07, 08:32 AM
Thanks and what is
momentum is vertical and not horizontal?

A_Wilhelm
Nov-18-07, 08:41 AM
You seem to go to the side too much. Try to stay in one place. Make sure that your momentum is vertical and not horizontal.

stop running into it and learn a proper cheat setup


And working on your tornados more wouldnt hurt either ;)

do what he said and don't waste our time with videos where you do the same mistakes over and over again, whithout listening to the advices given to you.

Your problem is in the weak setup and the bad tornadokick, which both you claim to be good. Realize they're not and work on them.

A_Wilhelm
Nov-18-07, 08:43 AM
Thanks and what is
momentum is vertical and not horizontal?

you travel to much distance instead of going up

mm tacos rock
Nov-18-07, 10:24 AM
You seem to go to the side too much. Try to stay in one place. Make sure that your momentum is vertical and not horizontal.


And working on your tornados more wouldnt hurt either ;)
I told him this twice in his last thread. And to go trick on the grass.

In all seriousness, I couldn't stand tricking on grass at first, because I was like "I can't jump! What the fuck I'm gay!" But then I learned something really, really important. I learned that if I posted enough complaints about grass on the TT messages boards, it would magically make me able to jump more. Pretty soon, after posting "zomg grass suxx" for the 35th time, I was able to do a 48-inch vertical jump on grass with lead boots on. For all your metric-users, that's like... uh... you know what? Just the conversion website. It's the handiest piece of crap in the world and it helped me to be able to accurately convert dollars into pounds.

Violent Cobra
Nov-18-07, 08:28 PM
yes im stupid but now im serious now

Swartz
Nov-18-07, 09:24 PM
hang on, why arent you in barbados?

*edit*

hey swartz why dont you tell him to stop fucking around being a nancy boy and try doing front flips off chairs instead
Dude, stop trying haha.

yes im stupid but now im serious now
What else do you want? People have told you everything you need to do. Stop whining about it here and just practice.

Violent Cobra
Nov-19-07, 05:50 AM
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NoMore
Nov-19-07, 06:00 AM
dude........
im not tricking very good, and not for long time, but thats not a good tornado or 540
stop running like a fucking bunny and start jumping like it
dont force yourself to land the 540, land the tornado first
and im training on grass, its harder then mats, i tryed B-Kick on my TKD class mats after i tryed on my grass and it was awsome, so i train on grass, it makes you jump better cose you got to try harder

try training on Ashdod`s sea sand, i did, FUKCING HARD!!!

Artis
Nov-19-07, 06:15 AM
I actually noticed that you are pretty fat..... so loose weight too! :tongue:

Matness
Nov-19-07, 07:06 AM
Yeah you'll really hurt yourself trying 540s on grass haha.

Hey! Don't joke about that! I pulled a groin muscle bailing a 540 on grass. THAT is how hardk0re I am.

Valen
Nov-19-07, 07:43 AM
hardcore or pathetic.. depends on how you deal with it :wink:

Valen
Nov-19-07, 07:48 AM
Damn right I'm right. Nobody is screaming at you either. This is all text here and I didn't even use caps haha. I'm simply telling you the cold hard truth. You're whining about how you can't do this or that on grass rather than mats. Why would you ask advice on something as silly as that? If you want to land a move on grass, practice it on grass. Grass is hard, it doesn't give you a rebound/bounce. Just use some common sense.

It sounds like you just realized that tricking is in fact DIFFICULT. Well no shit. Welcome to tricking. There is no easy way to learn this stuff. You just have to work on it consistently and let time transform you into someone skillful. There is only one "tip" for you: practice.

Don't accuse of me of not helping you. I did in my last post and I'm just repeating myself here because there's nothing else to be said. The advice I've given you is the only advice needed to give. You will not hear anything better from anyone. End of story.

p.s. To be honest I never thought I'd actually try to help you again after what I saw from you in the past but I'm just hoping you'll eventually become mature enough to understand what I'm getting at.

LoL... You totally owned him .. Swartz ..You are cool..

Violent Cobra
Nov-19-07, 10:22 AM
I actually noticed that you are pretty fat..... so loose weight too! :tongue:
Im Fat?XDD im not that fat it was old video that i think he best tornado there so i put thre in the vid but im not fat and my weight is 35 and im 12
:cool::tongue:

mm tacos rock
Nov-19-07, 11:01 AM
OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!1111@#%#^%$I&*&#$%#$^O(*($#%^#$*&^)(&^&^@%W$&%^&(&*)^*&&#@$#^$%^*^&)&*)(&&#%$%#$&%^&()&*(_)()^&^$^$%*&^(*%^#%E&*%^&(^&*(&^%U$&$%&$%&$%#%$%^&%^(&*)*()*(I&(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*)()()()()()*(^^@$%!#$$%^$%*%^&(&
I expected this response would come.

J-kob
Nov-19-07, 12:04 PM
C'mon guys, give him a break, he is only 12 :sad: Just train on grass mate, you'll get better with time :wink:

Valen
Nov-19-07, 12:53 PM
peace........ :ogre::ogre::ogre: