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trixter_007
Nov-20-07, 06:16 AM
I want to learn a back handspring (i still dont know a backflip) because a backflip is too scary. So i think back handspring will help me lose the fear.
Any extra tips on doing it? Should i arch my back or no?

Augenatic
Nov-20-07, 06:31 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION TOO, DO I ROTATE ON MY 720 OR NOT?

trixter_007
Nov-20-07, 07:22 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION TOO, DO I ROTATE ON MY 720 OR NOT?

post a video and ill see. No seriously do i arch my back some people say never arch your back

Artis
Nov-20-07, 07:28 AM
I think non arched backs are meant for those who have uber fast bhs, like on that one capoeira video wich was posted here a while ago(maybe i am wrong). Anyway, you should arch your back!

Augenatic
Nov-20-07, 08:04 AM
post a video and ill see. No seriously do i arch my back some people say never arch your back

That's for the backflip.

Ville
Nov-20-07, 08:36 AM
http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35440

V-flip
Nov-20-07, 08:38 AM
http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35440

That tutorial is not going to help anyone..

Ville
Nov-20-07, 08:40 AM
Well it may give some important details to some of the people,who has trouble with this!

V-flip
Nov-20-07, 08:48 AM
Well it may give some important details to some of the people,who has trouble with this!

If this guy wants good tutorial, I think he should check this out:http://youtube.com/watch?v=aAEibfWiNV8
Becouse it helps lot more than your tutorial :eh:

short gorilla
Nov-20-07, 09:04 AM
I want to learn a back handspring (i still dont know a backflip) because a backflip is too scary. So i think back handspring will help me lose the fear.
Any extra tips on doing it? Should i arch my back or no?

Arch your back, keep your arms locked out, and try it over a barrel or a friend or something the first few times. Work on the bridge too, to get the prorper flexibility and position. You still have to jump straight up, but your arms will turn you over when you throw them up. Keep your legs straight and kick fast or you'll just kind of flop. Chin and chest up when you turn over so you don't face plant.

mm tacos rock
Nov-20-07, 09:28 AM
http://trickstutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35440
I had to do a double-take when I saw this.

xD

mm tacos rock
Nov-20-07, 09:30 AM
I want to learn a back handspring (i still dont know a backflip) because a backflip is too scary. So i think back handspring will help me lose the fear.
Any extra tips on doing it? Should i arch my back or no?
You know what? A back tuck is easier than a BHS. Plus, you don't risk screwing up your wrists doing a back tuck.

Plus, I would highly recommend watching tutorials and getting lots of advice from people who know what the hell they're talking about BEFORE posting this.

In other words, yes, arch your back.

CodyLee1337
Nov-20-07, 10:39 AM
/sigh whats up with your avatar if you can't even do a bhs or a bflip?

A_Wilhelm
Nov-20-07, 10:50 AM
Well it may give some important details to some of the people,who has trouble with this!


haha you never give up Ville. And no, it sure doesn't help anyone.

Anima
Nov-20-07, 11:14 AM
/sigh whats up with your avatar if you can't even do a bhs or a bflip?

HAHA. Yeah, the irony.

trixter_007
Nov-20-07, 11:38 AM
Arch your back, keep your arms locked out, and try it over a barrel or a friend or something the first few times. Work on the bridge too, to get the prorper flexibility and position. You still have to jump straight up, but your arms will turn you over when you throw them up. Keep your legs straight and kick fast or you'll just kind of flop. Chin and chest up when you turn over so you don't face plant.

I tried it like 5 times now with a spotter, i face plant the first 4 times, but atlest i went all the way around, and the last time a face planted a bit only, my problem is that i jump too much back, but not up

Counterfeit Soda
Nov-20-07, 12:49 PM
Try to jump more up and not as much back.

simba_25
Nov-20-07, 01:04 PM
I tried it like 5 times now with a spotter, i face plant the first 4 times, but atlest i went all the way around, and the last time a face planted a bit only, my problem is that i jump too much back, but not up

Back handsprings are meant to go back, not up. You want to make them as long as possible without faceplanting. And you shouldn't really need to arch your back that much, use your ankles and toes to move jump backwards while taking your hands past your ears. If your arching your back loads your going up too much and can cause yourself an injury.

Demokk
Nov-20-07, 01:16 PM
I would like to ask, how can I help overcome the fear of going backwards? I can do a bridge from standing pretty easily with no fear at all, but when it comes to jumping and rotating backwards; I can't even get my legs go over 90º =S

Thanks.

The_Mayor
Nov-20-07, 02:01 PM
I would like to ask, how can I help overcome the fear of going backwards? I can do a bridge pretty easily with no fear at all, but when it comes to jumping and rotating backwards; I can't even get my legs go over 90º =S

Thanks.

Just go for it. Try to stay calm and not psych yourself out. Give it everything you have and don't hesitate.

Something you can try is counting down from ten and going. If you're doing a BHS using a mat, find something to elevate one end on which you can stand or just do it on a hill. This should relieve the fear of going over and possibly landing on your head. In my experience, it helped with fear, but it's MUCH easier to perform on a flat surface since you're not coming down on your hands as hard.

After you have gotten rid of your fear you can go on to doing it out of a roundoff which makes it even more easier. Again, you can use a hill or a mat if you're nervous the first couple times but once you get rid of the initial fear of going back, you're good to go.

Zapdos
Nov-20-07, 02:17 PM
I don't even jump when doing a bhs. Actually I don't even do them! I rape cows anyway, lol. I am a fag!! Please don't ban me lololol!!

A_Wilhelm
Nov-20-07, 02:17 PM
I can do a bridge pretty easily with no fear at all.

Congrats, most people are too frightened to even try a bridge.

JKT
Nov-20-07, 02:41 PM
Congrats, most people are too frightened to even try a bridge.

LOL!

Man this move is SO easy when you get it, you may start busting them out in your room. I would say try and go from standing to a bridge position
and learn a maccaco/valdez if the fear is too much to handle!

short gorilla
Nov-20-07, 07:56 PM
Back handsprings are meant to go back, not up. You want to make them as long as possible without faceplanting. And you shouldn't really need to arch your back that much, use your ankles and toes to move jump backwards while taking your hands past your ears. If your arching your back loads your going up too much and can cause yourself an injury.

Even if you are personally able to do a bhs, that is horrible advice and you are completely wrong.

CodyLee1337
Nov-21-07, 12:06 AM
Short Gorilla's right, perfect practice makes perfect, and thats just a way to screw up form and will not cure your fear of doing it on normal flat ground.

simba_25
Nov-21-07, 03:43 AM
Even if you are personally able to do a bhs, that is horrible advice and you are completely wrong.

Dude, have you ever been taught do do a back handspring properly? I've been a gymnast for 12 years and a coach for about 5 years, I know what i'm talking about.

TKD_Andy
Nov-21-07, 03:48 AM
Even if you are personally able to do a bhs, that is horrible advice and you are completely wrong.

you're a fucking idiot :bad:

keep your arms locked out,

wrong.

and try it over a barrel or a friend or something the first few times.

wrong.

Work on the bridge too, to get the prorper flexibility and position.

wrong. You do not need a bridge to BHS.

You still have to jump straight up,

are you fucking kidding me? WRONG!

but your arms will turn you over when you throw them up.

Seriously, do you even READ this stuff? WRONG!

Keep your legs straight and kick fast or you'll just kind of flop.

its a WHIPPING motion, not a kicking motion. You're WRONG!

Chin and chest up when you turn over so you don't face plant.

well if they've been following the rest of your oh-so-helpful advice, the best thing that could happen is a faceplant.

JiayoJames
Nov-21-07, 04:19 AM
The easiest way to back hand spring, is to relax.

Silthanas
Nov-21-07, 05:18 AM
That tutorial is not going to help anyone..

It could help someone who doesn't really know what a BHS feels like. Perhaps not everyone knows the steps the move, this aint the greatest tutorial for getting the move pretty, but at least it could be informative to the uninformed.

Ville
Nov-21-07, 05:46 AM
Damn straight!I know my tutorials aren´t so good without the video (I´m working on it),but that´s why I try to write every step and detail of the move.At least someone appreciates it!

simba_25
Nov-21-07, 10:17 AM
You people amaze me at how stupid you are...

short gorilla
Nov-21-07, 07:51 PM
Dude, have you ever been taught do do a back handspring properly? I've been a gymnast for 12 years and a coach for about 5 years, I know what i'm talking about.

Yes. I think something is being lost in the way I'm understanding what you are saying.

You need your arms locked out for a bhs so that you don't collapse on yourself. You need to jump up not back, and whip over (by kicking and throwing your arms back and over) so that you don't land on your ass, and we use barrels to learn the move because it's really easy to lay out or land on your face when you try it on your own. The spring comes from pumping your shoulders and extending your arms. I'm directing this more at Andy who tried more to make me look stupid than to offer any counterpoints. And yeah, I never said a bridge was necessary, but if you are going to be flexible enough to do a clean bhs it will help.

simba_25
Nov-22-07, 03:41 AM
Yes. I think something is being lost in the way I'm understanding what you are saying.

You need your arms locked out for a bhs so that you don't collapse on yourself. You need to jump up not back, and whip over (by kicking and throwing your arms back and over) so that you don't land on your ass, and we use barrels to learn the move because it's really easy to lay out or land on your face when you try it on your own. The spring comes from pumping your shoulders and extending your arms. I'm directing this more at Andy who tried more to make me look stupid than to offer any counterpoints. And yeah, I never said a bridge was necessary, but if you are going to be flexible enough to do a clean bhs it will help.

You need to keep your arms as straight as you can, NOT locked out so that you don't dislocate your shoulder, elbow or wrist. A bhs DOES NOT go up, the higher up you go the more pressure you put on your back from arching it and your arms from the impact of landing from too high up. Alot of people are alot stronger in their legs than their shoulders and arms so the spring comes from extending the toes, ankles and legs to propel you BACKWARDS. A clean bhs also doesn't need a bridge because you don't need amazing flexability in your back because it shouldn't arch.

I don't want to make you seem stupid but by giving the advice you are your putting people in danger of seriously hurting themselves.

Counterfeit Soda
Nov-23-07, 02:44 AM
Seriously though, instead of asking questions like "should I arch my back or not," on a board full of mostly backyard tricksters, why don't you look at videos of elite gymnasts doing them, and see if they are arching their back or not. Same for other simple questions.

A_Wilhelm
Nov-23-07, 02:57 AM
why don't you look at videos of elite gymnasts doing them, and see if they are arching their back or not. Same for other simple questions.


Are you serious? That's way too complicated!

short gorilla
Nov-23-07, 06:17 AM
I'm conceding the debate to Simba_25. Your second post there is a bit more thorough and so I'm dropping it. I think my main problem here is I'm not articulating myself well enough. Anyhoo I'm done with this thread now. Thanks for clearing it up.