can i get a side split in 1 hour? (im about half way now)

[generalbbb]

lets find out.

[eddy wang]

my teachers says any man in the world can but only or after 24 hours.
wanna break the record?

[generalbbb]

my teachers says any man in the world can but only or after 24 hours.
wanna break the record?

wtf did you just say?

[Gazapo]

Absolutely. Take a bunch of Ibuprofen, wash it down with alcohol, and start jumping on ice or an extremely slippery surface with your legs farther than shoulder-width apart. That should allow you to get the side splits almost immediately. Make sure you have someone ready to snap a pic at the right moment so you can prove it to everyone :good:

[eddy wang]

i did in 3 hours man, but with a teacher like bruce lee.
If i get up they will beat me up, and believe thatw asen't funny and is too painfull.
They have an exercice called maternity, is the bitchy of all of the torture.

[Gazapo]

Double posting for a serious reply, I doubt it. Takes time to achieve splits. Work on dynamic flexibility every day. I bet you could have em in a few weeks tho.

Edit: Eddy, sounds like a good way to tear muscles to me.

[receive]

Pavel talks about the "clasp-knife" technique or some shit? Look that up

[generalbbb]

is that when i take a knife to my muscles and just cut them off where the joint begins?

[eddy wang]

Double posting for a serious reply, I doubt it. Takes time to achieve splits. Work on dynamic flexibility every day. I bet you could have em in a few weeks tho.

Edit: Eddy, sounds like a good way to tear muscles to me.

yeah, and i never believe on they word about that too, since i was very flexible and i did a lot of flexiblity exercice all the time even before joining in, i really doubt if i was able to get them in one day if a was a very inflexible guy.
hmm i remeber, they also said, the muscles can become flexible with great types of different exercices to do it.
But i love all the flexiblity work they have, i work with them until now.

[Yuri]

just relax

yea i used pavel's techniques the first time i got side split. he says to basically hold your breath and tense the muscles being stretched, then go farther when you release

i just like to relax and go a little farther every time i breathe out taking deep breaths

now though I don't stretch much and do my best side splits without warm up, just popping into them. i feel like stretching tightens me up

[generalbbb]

omfg eddy wtf are you saying....?

on-topic: when i stretch i usually hold the position for a full minute, bearing the pain as long as possible but not going too far, and usually that works very well (although then i stop stretching for a week and go back to zero)

[eddy wang]

omfg eddy wtf are you saying....?

on-topic: when i stretch i usually hold the position for a full minute, bearing the pain as long as possible but not going too far, and usually that works very well (although then i stop stretching for a week and go back to zero)

i see, you can start by splitting every day, that will help you to get into the routine even if is just for a while.
also, break your records, first stay there for 30 secs, then increse the time of spliting by your own, i mean, then stay for 40, the 50, the 1:10secs.
and relax your muscles.
do not forget you need to be very well warmed up for it or even if you reach the floor, you will suffer the consequences later by can't even perform a dound kick at 90º degrees.

[Jimnast]

Put on a pair of roller skates and you'll be in the side splits before you know it.

[sebben]

you just have to visualize

[eddy wang]

Put on a pair of roller skates and you'll be in the side splits before you know it.

the fastest way ever hahaha.

[Papa Lazarou]

Can you get side splits in an hour?

No. Not unless you've been training for weeks already.

Muscles aren't like rubber bands or something. You can't just elongate them by constant stretching.

(This lower stuff is partly guess-work)

If flexibility has a large neurological component - which it probably does - then I guess it would be physically possible to get the splits instantly, in theory anyway. As in, the physical structure of your muscles wouldn't stop you. However, that'd be like... throwing a cork on your first day of tricking in terms of how hard it is for your brain.

In fact, it probably is impossible, since you need to overcome nervous regulation of muscle length, which isn't a conscious process.

On the other hand, if flexibility is mostly structural - which it probably isn't - then one hour (or even several days) wouldn't be long enough to cause the structural changes which would allow you to split. Micro-tearing and elongating connective tissue takes significant time (it has to heal after the tearing). Isometric stretching may lengthen muscles (through hypertrophy, not elongation of tendons), but of course, this also takes time.


As for the stretching methods...

bearing the pain as long as possible

Pain: tells you when something's wrong. Stretching doesn't need to be painful to be effective. Warm up thoroughly and get into your maximum painless range gradually. You should feel a stretch, but not pain.

Also, holding maximum range for minutes on end is unnecessary. Spend maybe a few minutes reaching your current maximum (painlessly), then hold that maximum for about 30 seconds.

[eddy wang]

Can you get side splits in an hour?

No. Not unless you've been training for weeks already.

Muscles aren't like rubber bands or something. You can't just elongate them by constant stretching.

(This lower stuff is partly guess-work)

If flexibility has a large neurological component - which it probably does - then I guess it would be physically possible to get the splits instantly, in theory anyway. As in, the physical structure of your muscles wouldn't stop you. However, that'd be like... throwing a cork on your first day of tricking in terms of how hard it is for your brain.

In fact, it probably is impossible, since you need to overcome nervous regulation of muscle length, which isn't a conscious process.

On the other hand, if flexibility is mostly structural - which it probably isn't - then one hour (or even several days) wouldn't be long enough to cause the structural changes which would allow you to split. Micro-tearing and elongating connective tissue takes significant time (it has to heal after the tearing). Isometric stretching may lengthen muscles (through hypertrophy, not elongation of tendons), but of course, this also takes time.


As for the stretching methods...



Pain: tells you when something's wrong. Stretching doesn't need to be painful to be effective. Warm up thoroughly and get into your maximum painless range gradually. You should feel a stretch, but not pain.

Also, holding maximum range for minutes on end is unnecessary. Spend maybe a few minutes reaching your current maximum (painlessly), then hold that maximum for about 30 seconds.
cool post man.
i told him to add some time, so he can adapt his muscles as well.

[generalbbb]

alright then, 2 hours. and its not pain as much as it is discomfort.

[eddy wang]

alright then, 2 hours. and its not pain as much as it is discomfort.

i will give you two weeks.

[Papa Lazarou]

Hahaha

Yeah, it just takes time. Take it easy, stretch properly (Juji's guide is good), and you'll get them in a few months. With isometrics you can get the side splits in a month - that's about the minimum usually.

There's no rush anyway. Just make stretching part of your daily routine (and training) and you'll get them soon enough.

Good luck!

[short gorilla]

If you force the splits and you aren't ready for them, even if you work up to it in the coarse of a couple of hours, you will still be damaging your muscles/tendons and will have fucked yourself up. The idea of stretching is teaching the muscles to relax and to grow differently, not just to stretch out. You are not made of rubber and goo. If you tear up your muscles doing this you will develop scar tissue and regret doing it for a long time.

[generalbbb]

alright i guess you guys are right lol. thanks for saving me from self-destruction

[Gazapo]

i will give you two weeks.

That sounds reasonable, I'll give him 3 or 4 weeks. Still pretty quick tho, and gotta be devoted.

I also figured you were were pretty flexible before that day with the splits (you were probably very close to them anyway). generalbbb is only like halfway.

Btw, general, reading this has made me realize I need to increase my flexibility again. For that, I thank you good sir for the motivation.

[lastmanstanding]

define "halfway".

NO SPLIT => 0 degrees
SIDESPLIT => 180 degree angle

Surely 90 degrees isnt remotely halfway

[Rahf]

Halfway is slightly wider than /\

[TKD_Andy]

my teachers says any man in the world can but only or after 24 hours.
wanna break the record?

your instructor is completely right!

you can actually get box splits/front splits in around 30 seconds, all you have to do is have your leg muscles ripped to shreds.

best idea EVAR! :bad:

splits take time.

[eddy wang]

your instructor is completely right!

you can actually get box splits/front splits in around 30 seconds, all you have to do is have your leg muscles ripped to shreds.

best idea EVAR! :bad:

splits take time.

yeah, and i never believe on they word about that too, since i was very flexible and i did a lot of flexiblity exercice all the time even before joining in, i really doubt if i was able to get them in one day if a was a very inflexible guy.
hmm i remeber, they also said, the muscles can become flexible with great types of different exercices to do it.
But i love all the flexiblity work they have, i work with them until now.



I recieve a Pre training preparation before i joining in officially hahaha.

[Ashtar]

i did in 3 hours man, but with a teacher like bruce lee. If i get up they will beat me up, and believe thatw asen't funny and is too painfull. They have an exercice called maternity, is the bitchy of all of the torture.That sounds pretty cool, how does it work? Do they impregnate you so the added belly weight forces you to the ground?

define "halfway".

NO SPLIT => 0 degrees
SIDESPLIT => 180 degree angle

Surely 90 degrees isnt remotely halfway

180/2=90.

[lastmanstanding]

I get that bit lol; thats why i chose 90 degrees, but given that people that have never stretched for the sidesplits in their life would have at least, say, 70 degrees even if they were really fat and inflexible, saying "im halfway" is a bit vague: "halfway from what??"

[Ashtar]

True, it's relative to your starting point, which varies for people. 0 is just easier to work with not knowing that.

I can't imagine not having at least a 90 degree angle.

[lastmanstanding]

I have 130 with no problem and 140 after stretching. 90 seems very restrictive. I suppose people with 180 (actual splits) feel the same way about not being able to split.

Hmm im going to make a thread now about how to work out the angle accurately, given that most people dint have protractors quite that huge.....

[Ashtar]

I wonder how the oversplits guys feel. That's the point where I don't see the benefit of added flexibility (besides making 180 splits feel less strenuous perhaps) since the distance between your feet begins to decrease, 180 splits is the best distance.

[Graber]

No u cant... i dont allow u that.

[eddy wang]

That sounds pretty cool, how does it work? Do they impregnate you so the added belly weight forces you to the ground?



180/2=90.

No its a side split exercice.
they put your back in the floor, then each one of the master grab each foot and make your toes reach the ground at same time, that position is called maternity.
It requires a lot of practice,if you want it i can show you how it is haha, i'm sure you will give up just by watching.

[Artis]

No its a side split exercice.
they put your back in the floor, then each one of the master grab each foot and make your toes reach the ground at same time, that position is called maternity.
It requires a lot of practice,if you want it i can show you how it is haha, i'm sure you will give up just by watching.

Imagine how crime level would drop if it would be one of the judgements for a crime.

[eddy wang]

Imagine how crime level would drop if it would be one of the judgements for a crime.

yeah, my brotha is a cop, and he is from tha same school too, i wonder why he haven't think about it.
I i already though about that from the same way.

[Papa Lazarou]

Those stretching techniques sound pretty dangerous to me.