cheat 1080 help

[Shaolin.dk]

Im no where near this trick, I dont even have the rotation down, i have both prerequisites (cheat 720 and cheat 900)

http://www.divshare.com/download/3607190-dbe

tips/hints greatly appreciated.

[Siphin]

this videos not working for me .. but Mike Maguires advice was after you spot the 1st time really pull your first knee in and up.. and wrap hard spot on the 2nd spot then 3rd spot kick.. but i can't cheat 900... which would deffinatly help me get my c1080.. i think im better off going for a C1080 before a C900.. i hate 900's..

[saulus]

video not working

[Shaolin.dk]

edit: it shoud work now..

[Siphin]

well from the 1 attempt i could see..you were leaning beyond return.. you must keep your body up right like in every other kick... (except sideswipes,swipe knives,etc..)spin up not to the side.. and wrap..it'll take time and practice.. I'll work on this to.. let me know when you get closer..

[Shaolin.dk]

well from the 1 attempt i could see.. it looked like a pop 1080.. and you were leaning beyond return.. you must keep your body up right like in every other kick... (except sideswipes,swipe knives,etc..)spin up not to the side.. and wrap..it'll take time and practice.. I'll work on this to.. let me know when you get closer..

what do u mean it looked like a pop 1080?

[Siphin]

what do u mean it looked like a pop 1080?

lmao oops i said that in my head the 1st time i watched it then watched it again.. my bad i didn't mean to type it.. but yet the rest was what i can help and say anything.. ignore that whole pop thing..

[Shaolin.dk]

dood how can avoid spinning off axis?thats like the most difficult thing in a cheat 1080, i dont get how its possible to land stable and throw a kick..:eh:¨
im starting to consider cheating the spin greatly like alota people do, just to land that damn kick, and show an illusion of a 1080 kick..

[Siphin]

practice...hmmmm... try just doing the spin.. just enough so your doing the right amount.. then make it faster and faster as the sessions go and the eventually add in a kick... it'll work but may take awhile..

[bobcheese]

dood how can avoid spinning off axis?thats like the most difficult thing in a cheat 1080, i dont get how its possible to land stable and throw a kick..:eh:¨
im starting to consider cheating the spin greatly like david armstrong or ott, just to land that damn kick, and show an illusion of a 1080 kick..

N0! That's dumb, just work at it!

[tricker_d]

If your not even close, don't attempt it untill you are absolutely certain that you want to. Get all of your other cheat moves as floaty as you can first.

[Siphin]

don't take short cuts man it takes hard work..

[Shaolin.dk]

If your not even close, don't attempt it untill you are absolutely certain that you want to. Get all of your other cheat moves as floaty as you can first.

i have what it takes to start working on cheat 1080, im only asking for advice, I have been doing 540's, cheat 7's and cheat 9's for more than a year..

[tricker_d]

My advice would be to condition more? Everyone always says that lol.

[Shaolin.dk]

My advice would be to condition more? Everyone always says that lol.

what would that apply?

[tricker_d]

Assuming that the cheat 1080 is pretty difficult move, jumping higher, kicking faster would help?

[Shaolin.dk]

Assuming that the cheat 1080 is pretty difficult move, jumping higher, kicking faster would help?

i agree that i dont jump high enough

but do you seriously think that doing conditioning would make me kick faster?

[Siphin]

nah fuck that Cheat Hyper 900.. that'll help..

and from the look of you 900 you'll have trouble hypering it.. when you can hyper it you can 1080 no problem..

[tricker_d]

i agree that i dont jump high enough

but do you seriously think that doing conditioning would make me kick faster?

I find that doing slow, controlled, dynamic kicks untill the point of cramping is good leg conditioning for me. It makes me kick faster after a small break so maybe it will work for you.

[k-slash]

Worst advice ever from tricker d lol.

What I did to get this was.

I practiced cheat 7`s making sure my chamber was perfect and I could spot my target twice solid. Then I practiced spotting twice with just the single pump no kick with shoes on, knee right up as high as I could, both toes pointed.

Then I worked on getting the extra spin spotting a 3rd time, and keeping my balance.

Once I could spot the target 3 times without losing balance, keeping my knee up and toes pointed, landing on the ground with my landing foot facing the target, not twisting into it on landing, I would start kicking.

Count the spins, when you`re in the air.

One, two, three, kick.

You should see the target each time you count, then you kick just after you say three.

Also work on doing itslowly and controlled, not throwing into it wildly.

You might get closer trying this, but maybe not :]

Stall the first spin too, getting your shoulders up..

[Siphin]

Cheat Hyper 900.. that'll help..
and from the look of you 900 you'll have trouble hypering it.. when you can hyper it you can 1080 no problem.

[Shaolin.dk]

Worst advice ever from tricker d lol.

What I did to get this was.

I practiced cheat 7`s making sure my chamber was perfect and I could spot my target twice solid. Then I practiced spotting twice with just the single pump no kick with shoes on, knee right up as high as I could, both toes pointed.

Then I worked on getting the extra spin spotting a 3rd time, and keeping my balance.

Once I could spot the target 3 times without losing balance, keeping my knee up and toes pointed, landing on the ground with my landing foot facing the target, not twisting into it on landing, I would start kicking.

Count the spins, when you`re in the air.

One, two, three, kick.

You should see the target each time you count, then you kick just after you say three.

Also work on doing itslowly and controlled, not throwing into it wildly.

You might get closer trying this, but maybe not :]

Stall the first spin too, getting your shoulders up..

aaah kslash, awesome advice, thanks a bunch. the non pumping spotting thing sounds like a great idea!

[NOT Muscle Man]

Cheat Hyper 900.. that'll help..
and from the look of you 900 you'll have trouble hypering it.. when you can hyper it you can 1080 no problem.


not exactly, with this kick it depends on how you trick


like my bro for example (mike) he can barely c720 round (c900) but he can c900 hook (c1080) with no problem

also with me, it's easier for me to hit c900 hooks (c1080's) rather than hyper c720 round (hyper c900)





about this:: dan perez has converted me to true kick terminology, use it, learn it, it's amazing

[J-Slide]

well the c10 you need to rotate on a vertical axes the second you lean over your probably not gonna land it practice backside 10s there similar c7 is decent just work on getting a powerful hook and not a cheezy cresent and the c9 practice backside 9s and get a really pwoerful round, try it from a hook too that could help

[Shaolin.dk]

well the c10 you need to rotate on a vertical axes the second you lean over your probably not gonna land it practice backside 10s there similar c7 is decent just work on getting a powerful hook and not a cheezy cresent and the c9 practice backside 9s and get a really pwoerful round, try it from a hook too that could help

that was a horrible post, didnt really understand what you're saying. Please learn to apply , and .

[tricker_d]

Worst advice ever from tricker d lol.

Okay how was this bad advice haha. Basic kicks are the roots to all kick tricks. So If you have good dynamic flexibility and speed, you will progress with kicks better. And this directed to basic kicks that would help the cheat 1080. Not the actual c1080 which is kind of off-topic.

[bobcheese]

http://www.kyukodo.com/Videos/Kyukodo%20French%20Open/Vasques%20tutorial.mpg

[eddy wang]

you seems to lose the balance at 900 degrees, that will block you to land a 1080 mang.
i will just add a tip on the K-slash post.
before you work directly in 1080 use the cheat ground pivoting technique.
start with 720 then swicth to 900 and then try to 1080, if you pivoting 1080 degrees very fast without losing the control this will help you to hold the balance in the air and to keep it wraped until you think so.
i would like to help some more.

[Shaolin.dk]

you seems to lose the balance at 900 degrees, that will block you to land a 1080 mang.
i will just add a tip on the K-slash post.
before you work directly in 1080 use the cheat ground pivoting technique.
start with 720 then swicth to 900 and then try to 1080, if you pivoting 1080 degrees very fast without losing the control this will help you to hold the balance in the air and to keep it wraped until you think so.
i would like to help some more.

what does "pivot" means?

[eddy wang]

what does "pivot" means?
It means that you will have to do cheat 720 without the support leg gets out of the floor.
then try to increase the degrees after you adapt to it.
This techinque will only help you to keep the balance while spinning.

Mine still need some work with the kick but i guees it will help you to get what i mean by balance.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j172/tropacoco/cheat-1080-kick.gif

[Shaolin.dk]

It means that you will have to do cheat 720 without the support leg gets out of the floor.
then try to increase the degrees after you adapt to it.
This techinque will only help you to keep the balance while spinning.

Mine still need some work with the kick but i guees it will help you to get what i mean by balance.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j172/tropacoco/cheat-1080-kick.gif

what do u mean "get out of the floor"?

if someone is up for spelling it out for me completely in details, that would be awesome!

[eddy wang]

what do u mean "get out of the floor"?

if someone is up for spelling it out for me completely in details, that would be awesome!

ooops.
out of the floor= jump
sorry
hahaha.

[Shaolin.dk]

so ure basically saying i should do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground?

[eddy wang]

so ure basically saying i should do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground?

:good:

that is what i mean.
it helped me to keep my balance at cheat 900's so i believe it will help you too.:smile:
its a safe way to learn to keep the balance at 1080s, but you need to do a seesion with 720 and 900 first.
this will avoiding you to get lost during the high speed rotation that requires to 1080s

[Tocano]

seems like you are drifting off axis because you are traveling too much horizontally. try to jump as straight up as possible and see if that helps. but then again, i can only c720.

[k-slash]

Okay how was this bad advice haha. Basic kicks are the roots to all kick tricks. So If you have good dynamic flexibility and speed, you will progress with kicks better. And this directed to basic kicks that would help the cheat 1080. Not the actual c1080 which is kind of off-topic.

I was talking about the condition advice lol.

[tricker_d]

I know. How was it bad? Conditioning is conditioning. Just about everything we do in life is conditioning. Just because I think diffetently than most of you people doesn't mean the idea is stupid.

[gabrielb]

i have a better c-1080 than i do a c-900 lol.

[k-slash]

I know. How was it bad? Conditioning is conditioning. Just about everything we do in life is conditioning. Just because I think diffetently than most of you people doesn't mean the idea is stupid.

Because you could have the fittest body in the world, and not have the co-ordination to cheat 10.

You learn that through the practice of the cheat 10...

[tricker_d]

I get what your saying. It's like a bodybuilder not being able to play table tennis haha.

[k-slash]

I get what your saying. It's like a bodybuilder not being able to play table tennis haha.

Haha yeah.

What your saying is true, but it wont help him learn the trick, it would help him improve the trick once he has it.

:]

[Shaolin.dk]

but how can i do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground? do you mean that i should just turn around like a spin hook kick?

[k-slash]

but how can i do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground? do you mean that i should just turn around like a spin hook kick?

Nono, do it jumping lol.

[JiayoJames]

Only big gays can't do this kick consistently.

Oh wait.

[eddy wang]

but how can i do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground? do you mean that i should just turn around like a spin hook kick?

please wait i'm uploading a video right now.

[gabrielb]

but how can i do a cheat 720 without leaving the ground? do you mean that i should just turn around like a spin hook kick?

lol a c-70 not leaving the ground is an autobahn.

[Shaolin.dk]

Nono, do it jumping lol.

hehe according to eddy its possible:smile:

[Augenatic]

I think that we've misunderstood eddy 100%, because a cheat 720 without leaving the ground would just be like.. a spin hook kick, if anything haha.
Edit: Actually it'd be spinning around on one leg hook kick. Carrythrough hook kick? Nevermind :).

[k-slash]

hehe according to eddy its possible:smile:

I haven`t read any of his posts in this thread, but it seems like he will be talking rubbish.

[eddy wang]

heck, youtube is updating his shits so i will upload that tomorrow at my jobpeace.

[Shaolin.dk]

heck, youtube is updating his shits so i will upload that tomorrow at my jobpeace.

are u on drugs?

[eddy wang]

are u on drugs?

no, i hate shits like that.
i'm just studing too much at this hour.

[eddy wang]

Shit TT try to stay up during some time
ok from who haven't watched here it is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lQglMhfJc0

[CotyTricker26]

spotting your target works wonders.... im not being sarcastic... from the looks of it,you weren't making a clear target on each rotation, all said kicks included. that should help you a lot.