Twisting both ways is bad??

[frankinstine]

I just had a coach tell me that twisting both ways is bad. WTF?

[TKD_Andy]

he must be retarded then.

[cyrys]

it isnt bad but its pointless

[poliver]

it isnt bad but its pointless

especially if you're twisting both ways at the same time

[TKD_Andy]

it isnt bad but its pointless

you must also be retarded.

[frankinstine]

I was like wtf, cuz he used to be in Zumanity and he's a fuckin beast!He's also a really good coach, so i was suprised to hear this. I'm waiting for an email with a reason why.

Andy, i would like to hear why you think said people are retarded.

[AndyD11]

especially if you're twisting both ways at the same time

hahahaha now that i would like to see :tongue:

and it's not pointless, i can think of many uses.
1. change of direction mid combo, therefore making it look awesome
2. if you can spin both ways ambitrixterous style then it's just downright impressive
3. originality
4. just generally kool to be able to do it haha

[frankinstine]

I want to twist both ways because he has me leaning branies and front fulls twisting to my right, but i feel more comfortable twisting to my left. So i figure, why not learn both?

[k-slash]

I can twist both ways.

[cyrys]

and while you learn a b-twist the other way, you could have bin working on a hyper on your good side

4. just generally kool to be able to do it haha
thats the only one i agree with
but its still a waste of time

[frankinstine]

Kinda like doing tricks is a waste of time?

[AndyD11]

i have to learn to get my tricks opposite now....when i first started there was no one to correct my stupidity of learning cartwheels, btwists, aerials one way and everything else the other way :ogre: now i can't combo those moves unless i msl them haha. Makes it kinda kool sometimes but is a pain in the ass other times hah.
got aerials the other way, did have corks, kinda have btwists but comboing will be a different matter :/

[k-slash]

I have a similar problem, it has plagued me.

But now I can do loads of tricks both sides, so meh it makes up a tiny bit lol.

[JiayoJames]

He thinks you shouldn't twist both ways because he's a gymnast coach, I expect. What need would they have for it? Tricking is not gymnastics. Ambi tricks are a valuable thing!

[poliver]

What need would they have for it?

wickid fulltwist, arabian half (arabian over left shoulder while twist in it to the right side) i think it's worth like double back or doublefull in gymnstics. been falling on my ass trying to do this with gainer arabians :D

[eddy wang]

i can butterfly twist round in both sides.
i don't think is a reterded thing twist in two sides.
sisnc is good for changing combos diretions at any moment is very good to
team up with anyone that doesn't trick into your side indeed.

[compacttricks]

i got same problem with combo's becuase of learning stuff one way, starting to learn the other way now. pecae

[Shadow5217]

The only kind of Tricklexia (if you will) I have is on all my twist moves I land on my s\t legs so no swing thru for me and that means I must Cork on my bad side Im so close but Im still going to learn how to s\t with my right leg just so I can be ambi with s\t's like Gainer Flash s\t Gainer Flash s\t Gainer Switch s\t Cork s\t Cork on my other side so I guess this isnt really a bad deal :)

[tuareg]

hahahaha now that i would like to see :tongue:

and it's not pointless, i can think of many uses.
1. change of direction mid combo, therefore making it look awesome
2. if you can spin both ways ambitrixterous style then it's just downright impressive
3. originality
4. just generally kool to be able to do it haha

Haha exactly. I hardly think it has any cons.

[Torre]

I start crying just by imagining doing a btwist on my bad side. Though it must be pretty funny to watch haha.

[TKD_Andy]

He thinks you shouldn't twist both ways because he's a gymnast coach, I expect.

wha? Because he's a gym coach he thinks you should only twist one way?

thats logic is on a par with the chap in questions original statement!

[Skilzat85X]

In gymnastics there's no point in twisting both ways so they teach you to only twist in one direction, your dominant direction.

It's not like tricking where everything is "wooo yay let's do this for fun." It's srs bznz to them and they have competitions and meets and crap and must be judged and have a code to follow. So, they only twist on one side. It helps not to get confused.

But tricking doesn't follow a code, not to mention that the majority of moves in tricking are NOT gymnastic in nature and thus don't really matter...so...do whatever you want basically.

From what you've said, that's probably that Jesus coach guy haha. Don't even worry about it. He's sick but he's too much in a rush to constantly try to coach everyone on what he thinks they're doing, when in fact they're doing something with a totally different goal in mind.

[TKD_Andy]

In gymnastics there's no point in twisting both ways so they teach you to only twist in one direction, your dominant direction.



from what ive been lead to believe:

twisting both ways = higher difficulty = higher skill level = mo points.

however, this is only for competing gymnasts so meh.

[tuareg]

Ahhaha Jesus coach guy haha.

[JiayoJames]

wha? Because he's a gym coach he thinks you should only twist one way?

thats logic is on a par with the chap in questions original statement!

Oh wow, if you take a statement out of the context of its supporting reasons, the logic seems incomplete. How surprising!

[TKD_Andy]

Oh wow, if you take a statement out of the context of its supporting reasons, the logic seems incomplete. How surprising!


you need to chill out man. Even if i quoted your whole post, it doesnt detract from my point the slightest; your assumption was questionable, and i questioned it.

its not like i pissed on your grandmother or anything

[Skilzat85X]

Ahhaha Jesus coach guy haha.

Haha yea. He's hispanic but I think he pronounces it Jesus instead of HAY-sues.

And he has his own name tattoo'd across his stomach haha.

[tuareg]

Haha yea. He's hispanic but I think he pronounces it Jesus instead of HAY-sues.

And he has his own name tattoo'd across his stomach haha.

Oh, i only just realized you know frankistine so you know the coach aswell haha. I thought you called him jesus coach guy for no apparent reason ahhaha.


O wow haha.

[dpitlock]

I can doublefull bothsides

[*<User Name]

it isnt bad but its pointless

unless you're showing that you're amazing

[Kyle McLean]

and while you learn a b-twist the other way, you could have bin working on a hyper on your good side

4. just generally kool to be able to do it haha
thats the only one i agree with
but its still a waste of time

and what if you are a person who does 540 one way and btwist the other? and you want to combo? you have to learn one of the tricks on the other side...so why not both?

i do not like your thinking on this.

[frankinstine]

Yeah, it was Jesus. I was like wtf? but i'm still gonna learn both ways. He doesn't always have the same goals in mind as you do, but he is good at teaching.

Aaron, when did you meet him?

Just to be clear, i wasn't aksing if twisting both ways is bad. I was just saying wtf about hearing that from a credible coach.

[tricker_d]

it isnt bad but its pointless

I have to disagree on that one. Twisting both ways gives your more opportunities for combos.

[Skippy]

and what if you are a person who does 540 one way and btwist the other? and you want to combo? you have to learn one of the tricks on the other side...so why not both?

i do not like your thinking on this.

I think cyrys is more hinting to learn every trick on the same side in the first place

[tuareg]

I find twisting on my bad side better, but maybe thats my good side on twists. But anyway, i can twist on corks on both sides. Doing b-twists on my other side is always bad though.

But yeah it's definitely better to know how to twist on both sides. I usually try learning everything on both my good and bad anyway.

[Ambitrixterous]

A fifth, and the biggest reason I am where I am:

5. Greater understanding of tricking.

The whole reason I'm able to trick on both sides at all is because I really know my shit (which I only really know my shit because I took the time to learn it on both sides). Should everyone trick left & right? No, but don't knock it...

[AdamSwaluk]

Twisting both ways can be cool, yeah, but there are definitely cons.

Imagine I can btwist both ways, and I go drill the move both ways. I do 25 one way, and 25 the other. If I had concentrated on one side instead of both, I could have done 50 btwists in the same amount of time! That's dumbing it down a lot.

When you're deciding whether or not to learn moves both ways, you're deciding whether to advance as far as possible difficulty-wise (doing your moves one way for maximum efficiency), or becoming as varied and unusual as possilble (both ways, although this can be achieved by doing your moves on one side, too).

[frankinstine]

I was only thinking about learning to spin in both directions, not all tricks. As of right now, i can only twist to my left. But i'm a righty, so it would help to twist to the right.

[Skilzat85X]

Righties are technically supposed to twist to their left usually.

[tuareg]

When i twist to my right i usually get a feeling that i have a little too much controll, and i mess it up (i do some retarded aerial twist). On my left side i can't controll the whole motion, i just throw it and it happens by itself.

Doesn't make too much sense, but really thats how i feel it haha.

[AdamSwaluk]

A lot of control is a good thing, isn't it?

Oh, and Skilz has a point 'bout the righty thing.

[OpenxEyedxBeast]

I'm sure you guys know this already but in Wushu they twist on both sides. :) I personally want to practice this, regardless of how much time I would waste.

[AjStyles]

ERMMM???
How about kicking with the other leg? like 540, Flash, gainer,etc?????
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