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k-slash
Feb-14-08, 09:08 AM
Since I was fucking 2004/2005 or whenever it was I started, I`ve been tricking on my fucking wrong side.

I`m 100% sure of this now, and I want to punch something.

It`s fucking gay going outside and learning a bunch of things on your supposed wrong side, 100x easier than when you learned on the supposed proper side, and doing them better.

This probably sounds stupid.

But I`m severely annoyed, that I`ll have to say I`ve been tricking 3/4 years and being so much worse than I would have been, and now if I spend the time learning on this other side, i`ll be at the stage I could have been years ago, or if I train both sides ugh I dunno, I`m annoyed as fuckkkkkk.

I`ve been trainign stuff both sides-ish anyway but ugh, fuck you tricking!!! *shakes fist int he air*

:ogre:

Also, does anyone want to have a small kicking battle or something? Just basicy stuff like 540`s cheat 7`s pop 7`s blah yano.

Augenatic
Feb-14-08, 09:11 AM
Don't mind that man, you'll find it easier to learn tricks on your other side then! Ambidextrousity ftw.

Skilzat85X
Feb-14-08, 09:14 AM
Haha don't worry about it.

I'm right handed, and almost all right handers go CCW. I go CW, haha. When I was ultra newbie I used to try to do some stuff going CCW cause it felt naturally, although I never really learned much of anything on that said. Then I started only going CW.

Am I tricking on my wrong side? I dunno. If I just spin around on the ground, or jump and spin in the air, it's easier to go CCW than CW. However, when it comes to my tricks, it's always easier to go CW, obviously because I've practiced all the setups and motions and whatever on that side.

It doesn't matter though. Learning everything on your "wrong side" doesn't make you incapable of doing anything. Maybe you'll have to work a little bit harder, it's possible. But look at people like DPT, he does just about every trick on both of his sides, even high level ones. You just have to adapt to it and keep progressing on that side, if it's your bad side you won't run into a wall in your training, you'll be able to keep going.

I'd battle you buuuut I'm not sure when I'm going to be back into tricking due to shin splints, not to mention I busted my big toe practicing spinning rounds last night. :agony:

GeneralBrownie
Feb-14-08, 09:19 AM
theres a wrong side to do them on?

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 09:35 AM
Yeah but go with this.

I can`t cartwheel/roundoff/aerial/b-kick with my left leg straight going righ (which i`ve been doing for years) so everytime I do one of these or variations, I kick a bent leg.

Bent leg/bad form, bad form/bad tricks.

I don`t like being told to straighten my leg when I find it physically impossible to do so, but it`s natural on my left side. That is the thing which pissed me off the most.

It means I can s/t with straight legs, I can`t kick up powefully because it`s the weak leg, so I wont be able to do cheat 720 twist s/t gainerflash/cork/box cutter blah balh with a kick up, I`ll have to just pop off 1 foot like usual or do a weak bent s/t.

I hate it.

Fin
Feb-14-08, 09:56 AM
k slash I'd be willing to battle if the weather clears up soon. My cheat 7 looks like shit at the moment.

But my pop 7 and 540 is decent.

cyrys
Feb-14-08, 10:23 AM
thats pretty fucked

johnnyg42
Feb-14-08, 10:38 AM
i btwist and cork on different sides :agony: no swingthrus until i stop being a bitch

Augenatic
Feb-14-08, 10:41 AM
i btwist and cork on different sides :agony: no swingthrus until i stop being a bitch

Haha what, that's weird ^_^.

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 11:01 AM
Ok when the weather is better lets battle :)

Well I learned b-twist on the opp side of gainerflashes and corks, but the same side I fulltwisted, so I learned all my gainer variations on the side I cudn`t, and more variations than left, but now I can`t s/t them properly anymore/even do them properly anymore so it was a waist of time.

Skilzat85X
Feb-14-08, 11:04 AM
Dynamic flexibility in both legs?

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 11:06 AM
Dynamic flexibility in both legs?

I can kick fine, it`s almost like, as I do said trick, my left leg completely loses feeling, so I can`t focus on it to keep it straight.

I will go into the set-up thinking about it, locking my leg, then as I jump the feeling goes and my leg bends, it`s fucking annoying.

My brain always thinks about my right leg leading, so I can`t switch it to focus on my left haha.

Skilzat85X
Feb-14-08, 11:11 AM
Haha. Well it's just a bridge you have to cross now that you've come to it.

ooo das deep.

Try writing with your other arm? lol

Better yet, thiiiink, don't feel the tricks. At this point, you're going to need to slow the process down in your mind and really coordinate everything. It may take time, but oh well. Who knows! Our bodies are strange.

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 11:29 AM
Haha. Well it's just a bridge you have to cross now that you've come to it.

ooo das deep.

Try writing with your other arm? lol

Better yet, thiiiink, don't feel the tricks. At this point, you're going to need to slow the process down in your mind and really coordinate everything. It may take time, but oh well. Who knows! Our bodies are strange.

Yeah man, I`ll just keep working at it haha.

While I`m here, I looked at your brandy tutorial, and was extremely impressed by your brandy haha, it was fucking crazy.

Kalvin
Feb-14-08, 11:35 AM
i <3 K-Slash lol, dont worry about it much, you own regardless of whats happened.

Gravityjay
Feb-14-08, 11:38 AM
K slash Ill have a basics battle as I'm gunna go back to basics for a while to make sure I strengthen my ankle up before I destroy it again.

Scalco
Feb-14-08, 11:39 AM
You're telling me that during those 3/4 years you never once tried doing tricks on the other side? I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. But if anything you should be happy that you'll be doing even better now than before!

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 11:51 AM
i <3 K-Slash lol, dont worry about it much, you own regardless of whats happened.
Haha thansk man <3
K slash Ill have a basics battle as I'm gunna go back to basics for a while to make sure I strengthen my ankle up before I destroy it again.
Ah sweet man, hows your injury doign?
You're telling me that during those 3/4 years you never once tried doing tricks on the other side? I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. But if anything you should be happy that you'll be doing even better now than before!
Well basically this is how it goes.

First tricks on sides (meaning not flips) were:

b-kick on my left, doing roundoffs right

Then aerials with a bent leg on my right, being stupid tucked things

Then ignoring b-kicks and learning a b-twist right

Then learning a stupid flatspin gainerflash thing left, with a straight leg non inverted aerial-ish/b-kick thing, and cork left

While learning cartwheel arabians and fulls on my right

doing flashkicks with my right leg

then 540 kicks left

hyper twists and such right

wallflips planting right foot

then at some pint I learned a pop 360 on my right and step over hooks and stuff on that side

with pop 540`s on my left

blah blah thats how it kind of went, I didn`t know about this tricking community, or talk to anybody who cuold tell me what I was doing. I didn`t know about combo`s where I would need things on a certain side, so yeah, I was stupid.





Also, what would you guys call a fulltwist, where you come out early like a flash kick (twisting right coming out right foot) then switching it like a double flash, thus landing on the left leg.


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Gravityjay
Feb-14-08, 12:46 PM
Ah sweet man, hows your injury doign?


Getting there I can do calf raises with the bad ankle now. Still no jumping as it hurts and I can't pivot on it, which makes teaching classes interesting as I cant do spin kicks...

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 01:08 PM
Getting there I can do calf raises with the bad ankle now. Still no jumping as it hurts and I can't pivot on it, which makes teaching classes interesting as I cant do spin kicks...

Ahh, well thats improvement man :]

WIll have to stick to just explaining for a while haha.

How long till you should be back to normal man?

Gravityjay
Feb-14-08, 01:15 PM
Im thinking 2 weeks to start basic training 3-4 before Im back full on.

Dragonic MiKe
Feb-14-08, 01:17 PM
Full(twist) double flash?

simon
Feb-14-08, 02:03 PM
did anyone(kslash, mike, jay, fin and cyrys) happen to watch that baby bible bashers thing that just finished on channel 4?

THEY WERE IN ROANOKE! lol.

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 02:25 PM
I did not haha, are you going to gym on sunday?

I have no idea where that is either haha.

Rudy
Feb-14-08, 02:30 PM
did anyone(kslash, mike, jay, fin and cyrys) happen to watch that baby bible bashers thing that just finished on channel 4?

THEY WERE IN ROANOKE! lol.

WAIT WAIT WAIT...ROANOKE VIRGINIA?!

k-slash
Feb-14-08, 02:44 PM
WAIT WAIT WAIT...ROANOKE VIRGINIA?!

Thats what I thought.

Rudy
Feb-14-08, 02:46 PM
haha, i want to know now...

Victor_S
Feb-15-08, 02:18 AM
hahaha this whole issue of your bad side is so strange, bad with your skills you would be able to learn stuff in your good side in not too much time, you rock.

Also, does anyone want to have a small kicking battle or something? Just basicy stuff like 540`s cheat 7`s pop 7`s blah yano.

I will battle you if you want, see you on msn :wicked:

GoldVision
Feb-15-08, 02:36 AM
Just work a bit harder and try to be a both side tricker.
if you look at kjer, the guy tricks clean on both sides....it ownz :)

Alexx
Feb-15-08, 04:46 AM
i would be pissed off if i looked like this guy

http://www.lanl.gov/news/albums/people/Wallace_Terry2.jpg

Scooba Dave
Feb-15-08, 06:38 AM
careful alexx your eatting up the bandwidth !!!!!!!

Dave
Feb-15-08, 07:04 AM
Since I was fucking 2004/2005 or whenever it was I started, I`ve been tricking on my fucking wrong side.

I`m 100% sure of this now, and I want to punch something.

It`s fucking gay going outside and learning a bunch of things on your supposed wrong side, 100x easier than when you learned on the supposed proper side, and doing them better.

This probably sounds stupid.

But I`m severely annoyed, that I`ll have to say I`ve been tricking 3/4 years and being so much worse than I would have been, and now if I spend the time learning on this other side, i`ll be at the stage I could have been years ago, or if I train both sides ugh I dunno, I`m annoyed as fuckkkkkk.

I`ve been trainign stuff both sides-ish anyway but ugh, fuck you tricking!!! *shakes fist int he air*

:ogre:

Also, does anyone want to have a small kicking battle or something? Just basicy stuff like 540`s cheat 7`s pop 7`s blah yano.

This sucks man :( I will battle this if you want, but I will lose most likely lose. Could be fun/good motivation though.

Dave
Feb-15-08, 07:05 AM
ok it seems likes 40people want to battle you anyway, i'm too late. nvm lol

jiayo-chris
Feb-15-08, 07:06 AM
careful alexx your eatting up the bandwidth !!!!!!!

No he isn't it's hosted on a different site...

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 07:36 AM
I`m up for anyone willing to battle me haha :/

*thread update*

I can now do these on my other side (the side Iv`e been talking about), including axe aerial twists, that I didn`t film, but I will at some other point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaRIbW0WtA

KJER
Feb-15-08, 07:42 AM
there is no wrong side...just sides..

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 07:43 AM
Thats why Iv`e decided to say other side, or left/right side from now on lol.

Dave
Feb-15-08, 07:46 AM
What about your bad/unnatural/irregular side.

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 07:53 AM
I don`t appear to have one.

Dave
Feb-15-08, 08:03 AM
Is it possible to not have an unnatural side? Like at the start you chose to trick one side because it was more comfortable for you. Even if they are the same level now, the second one would be your "unnatural" side.

I imagine it like skating in "switch". Some skaters can do it like nothing but that doesn't mean they have no "switch stance".

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 08:10 AM
I see it like this.

I`m right handed, I`d kick a ball with my right foot, i`d punch with my right hand.

So that should mean I would be kicking up for gainers/aerials/roundoffs/540`s and everything with my right foot, twisting left.

But then it means, all outside kicks would be with my right leg too, crescents, raiz, blah blah because thats my leading leg.

But thats not how people learn haha.

So i`ve went with that abit, but no really.

I`ve learned a stupid way :)

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 08:11 AM
careful alexx your eatting up the bandwidth !!!!!!!

Take that vid out your sig.

Skilzat85X
Feb-15-08, 08:45 AM
I think too many people think of doing kicks and whatever only with one leg.
Instead, think of doing stuff only to one side.

To that end, I learned all my inside kicks with my left leg, and outside kicks with my right. (of course, I do practice those inside kicks with my right leg as well, seeings as it's my dominant leg, and thus easier to control it). But I focus on sharpening the inside kicks with my left leg moreso, since that's the leg I'm going to be kicking inside.

I'm going to pose this question actually: do you practice basic kicks (inside outside crescent, round, roundhouse*, hooks, front, axe, etc), all going in your dominant direction? If not, then do them, a LOT! If you do, then do them even more! Cause you can just never practice your basic kicks enough, especially if you haven't been trained in traditional martial arts. Plus, practicing basic kicks is FUN.


*I think I'm using TKD naming conventions I'm not sure, I picked this up from one video where a round goes up to the front chambered, then pivots and extends out, and retracts, whereas roundhouse comes up from the side and swings outwards in a circular motion in an extension similar to the roundhouse, but pulls across, etc. I picked this up from this (good, use it if you must haha) tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iN9DLBf-aw . Anyways, someone who better knows these things please tell me the difference between the two "rounding" styles, and their respective names. Thanks!

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 09:22 AM
Well I`ve spent ages drilling kicks on both sides, so yes haha.

But no matter how much I do it, I still don`t have the same force so yeah :/

I need to drill hooks alot more on my left tho.

simon
Feb-15-08, 09:26 AM
roanoke virginia.
some 7 year old preaching on abortion in front of a bar.

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 09:28 AM
ahahahahahah!

Scooba Dave
Feb-15-08, 06:47 PM
kris, your the best at tricking on your opposite side, and still owning your avarage(normal sided) tricker. i understand how pissed u are though man !

k-slash
Feb-15-08, 09:13 PM
kris, your the best at tricking on your opposite side, and still owning your avarage(normal sided) tricker. i understand how pissed u are though man !

<3

I`m going to bust some excellent combo`s soon with my ambi tricks.

CusTuM
Feb-15-08, 11:50 PM
It's not like you've been completely wasting your time. You've still been learning things (=

k-slash
Feb-20-08, 02:45 PM
Yeah man, I`m starting to LOF it!

*update*

I`m going to keep bumping this cause I`m a loser.

I can now, b-twist and a-twist on this side, beter than my regular.

I can now consistently s/t them into gainerflashes and corks, and combo the s/t`s of them haha, I love this!

*leaking information*

Like it matters lol.

I also don`t care about being good at tricking now, so any shit things I learn which make me happy, whatever the level, I will show and be proud of them haha, tricking for others is gay.

And trying to make samplers making out you are amazing, and only doing stuff to make you look super bad-ass is gay.

JiayoJames
Feb-20-08, 02:59 PM
I am super not ambi tricker. I can't even opposite aerial.

Artis
Feb-20-08, 03:05 PM
I am super not ambi tricker. I can't even opposite aerial.

actually i find aerials looking much better on my opposite side :tongue:

ermm.. when i land them

D.A.
Feb-20-08, 05:43 PM
dude K-Slash I'm getting fed up with all this single sided tricking. parafuso->dleg is cool but doing the dleg on the other side is way cooler. I think there's no such thing as a 'wrong side,' it just means you'll have to be a little more creative, which always turns out well!
and just so you know you're a fucking awesome tricker.

k-slash
Feb-20-08, 06:02 PM
dude K-Slash I'm getting fed up with all this single sided tricking. parafuso->dleg is cool but doing the dleg on the other side is way cooler. I think there's no such thing as a 'wrong side,' it just means you'll have to be a little more creative, which always turns out well!
and just so you know you're a fucking awesome tricker.

Thanks alot man :]

Yeah I was thinking about parafuso left then dleg right out of it haha, I might try it for you :]

Yeah I love trickers who swap sides, I love creative combo`s so much haha, I`m working on a few creative ones myself.

Much love <3

bobcheese
Feb-20-08, 08:44 PM
I will battle you on those more or less basic moves if you want ^.^

k-slash
Feb-21-08, 06:34 AM
I will battle you on those more or less basic moves if you want ^.^

Deal, lets battle.

I`m going to battle Victor S aswell, 3 way battle perhaps?