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WushuTricks
Mar-02-08, 08:27 PM
What are they other than joint lubrication and omega-3's?

compleks
Mar-02-08, 08:29 PM
What are the benefits of omega-3's?

WushuTricks
Mar-02-08, 08:31 PM
I don't know but they sound important lol.

Kitosho
Mar-02-08, 09:00 PM
- n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids are required in a huge number of bodily processes and most people don't consume nearly enough

- vitamin A is required in a huge number of bodily processes and most people don't consume nearly enough

- vitamin D is required in a huge number of bodily processes and most people don't consume nearly enough

Andario
Mar-02-08, 09:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=omega+acid&go=Go

Tossman
Mar-02-08, 09:35 PM
What are the benefits of omega-3's?

are you skeptical to the supposed benefits of omega3s? if so, any reason for it?

compleks
Mar-03-08, 03:19 AM
are you skeptical to the supposed benefits of omega3s? if so, any reason for it?

No, I'm simply saying that if he knows fish oil is a good source of omega 3, then why not just google the health benefits of Omega 3s?

Lees Dragon
Mar-03-08, 05:02 AM
Strangely enough, I once read something that John Berardi wrote, saying that other fish oils should be consumed for the fatty acids and not cod liver oil. I don't know why. Anyone have any ideas?

Tossman
Mar-03-08, 05:11 AM
complex: gotcha

lees: perhaps he wasnt fond of the intake of vitamins A & D for toxicity reasons

rock_10
Mar-03-08, 11:34 AM
^ that's right, but imo probably not a well-founded concern.

Also cod liver oil is usually quite impure compared to fish oil. The best fish oils undergo molecular distilation which removes everything except the fats - all colouration, all the vitamins, etc. These are then added back in afterwards (usually with a citrus flavouring or something). Cheap cod liver oils are like drinking sewage. There's a .pdf I read once with the results of a UK goverment analysis of around 40 commercially available fish oils and cod liver oils. The differences in pollutant/contaminant levels were huge.

Ashtar
Mar-03-08, 12:07 PM
What's preventing people from purifying cod liver oil, or forcing people to purify fish oil? I think in any case it's better to look on the package and say what they do to it rather than generalize based on what kind of fish it is and what organ it comes from.vitamin D is required in a huge number of bodily processes and most people don't consume nearly enoughYeah, since we don't get much sun out of fear of cancer/playing video games/work/school/love of the pale goths getting it in the diet becomes more important. Although if we don't make it by ourselves, we don't use cholesterol to make it do we?

I'm sort of skeptical of the Omega3 phenomenon too, after all the polyunsaturates oxidize really easily, so while it causes all these metabolic boosts, it seems more likely to get rancid if you don't have adequate AO protection against radicals.

Not to mention the whole 'boost the metabolism' movement has got to have some bias in it since all you seem to hear these days is positives, despite the species with higher metabolisms like mice tending to have shorter lifespans so they can breed often and in massive litters and then die out quickly after having passed their genes on, a fate not all humans which to emulate.

WushuTricks
Mar-03-08, 12:30 PM
^ that's right, but imo probably not a well-founded concern.

Also cod liver oil is usually quite impure compared to fish oil. The best fish oils undergo molecular distilation which removes everything except the fats - all colouration, all the vitamins, etc. These are then added back in afterwards (usually with a citrus flavouring or something). Cheap cod liver oils are like drinking sewage. There's a .pdf I read once with the results of a UK goverment analysis of around 40 commercially available fish oils and cod liver oils. The differences in pollutant/contaminant levels were huge.

I don't live in the uk though.

rock_10
Mar-03-08, 12:50 PM
I don't live in the uk though.

Thanks for letting me know.

Rahf
Mar-03-08, 12:55 PM
Thanks for letting me know.

His point is that what applies to supplements and foodstuffs in the UK does not necessarily apply to the same in other countries. One example is the craze with antibiotic- and hormonefilled cattle and poultry in the US whereas in Sweden there is no such thing.

rock_10
Mar-03-08, 01:08 PM
werd, but I should think that in any country (especially if it has internet access) there would be just as wide a range of different qualities and purities of oil on the market. There's dozens of brands in the shops here.

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Anyone buying fish oil or cod liver oil should investigate the purity of the product.

Kitosho
Mar-03-08, 01:27 PM
werd, but I should think that in any country (especially if it has internet access) there would be just as wide a range of different qualities and purities of oil on the market. There's dozens of brands in the shops here.

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Anyone buying fish oil or cod liver oil should investigate the purity of the product.




well duurrrr

Lobo
Mar-03-08, 01:45 PM
What are your opinions of krill oil as an alternative to fish/cod liver oil, boys?

Ashtar
Mar-03-08, 01:50 PM
I think you read Mercola and fear microwaves.

rock_10
Mar-03-08, 01:52 PM
well duurrrr

It sounds obvious, but still the best selling brand here is the one with the very highest levels of gayness. Fucking Holland & Barratt shit. No one gives a shit or looks into the product, they just buy it. 'Fish oil = fish oil, WTF COULD BE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEM?!?'

Tossman
Mar-03-08, 05:52 PM
What are your opinions of krill oil as an alternative to fish/cod liver oil, boys?

i cant say i know much. but from the little i do know is that you get the benefits of omega 3s as well as phospholipids. omega 3s we all know about, but phospholipids...not so much of. there's a few projects at my uni looking into this right now.

One example is the craze with antibiotic- and hormonefilled cattle and poultry in the US whereas in Sweden there is no such thing.

no one in the western world uses hormones in poultry. it's illegal.
cattle, it's not illegal, but the hormones are peptides and are safe for many reasons.

Chase
Mar-03-08, 06:21 PM
What are your opinions of krill oil as an alternative to fish/cod liver oil, boys?

Oh Shit Krill!
http://guides.gamepressure.com/gearsofwar/gfx/word/434138453.jpg

Lees Dragon
Mar-04-08, 04:49 AM
What are the price differences between the different kinds of fish oils?
I think that i've only seen cod liver oil here.

rock_10
Mar-04-08, 05:02 AM
What are the price differences between the different kinds of fish oils?
I think that i've only seen cod liver oil here.

Cod liver oil tends to be very cheap. Fish oil more expensive.

Kitosho
Mar-04-08, 05:35 AM
I think you read Mercola and fear microwaves.




BURN

Kitosho
Mar-04-08, 05:39 AM
It sounds obvious, but still the best selling brand here is the one with the very highest levels of gayness. Fucking Holland & Barratt shit. No one gives a shit or looks into the product, they just buy it. 'Fish oil = fish oil, WTF COULD BE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEM?!?'



I know it. I've been working in various supplement stores for over 2 years now, it's my job to SELL people this stuff.

LOBO: Krill oil is fine but a lot pricier and not yet available in a liquid from what i've seen, which is my normal recommended intake method. If you like it, though, go for it.


I have been using various brands and had good results with a few:
- Garden of Life makes a good one
- NOW brand is good as well

rock_10
Mar-04-08, 05:41 AM
Kitosho - do you give customers all sorts of bullshit about what supplements will do? What kind of things are you supposed to tell them?